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Love this: "Browns vs. Redskins highlights" on NFL.com shows not a single redskins offensive snap.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2014081800/2014/PRE2/browns@redskins#tab=recap&menu=gameinfo%7CcontentId%3A0ap3000000379824]Watch Cleveland Browns vs. Washington Redskins [08/18/2014] - NFL.com[/url]

Ridiculous.

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[quote=mredskins;1078026]This is a good wrap up of Griffins night.

[URL="http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2167547-bad-habits-still-hurting-rgiii-as-redskins-struggle-to-excel-in-new-offense"]Bad Habits Still Hurting RGIII as Redskins Struggle to Excel in New Offense | Bleacher Report[/URL]


BR nicked picked the Roberts throw. Looking at I don't know where else he good have placed it.[/quote]

Seriously do those guys have an ax to grind against RG3? He made his share of mistakes out there but the bomb was perfect. He looked right the entire time to keep the safety honest and threw it back left, dropped it right in there.

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[quote=takethecake;1078042]Love this: "Browns vs. Redskins highlights" on NFL.com shows not a single redskins offensive snap.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2014081800/2014/PRE2/browns@redskins#tab=recap&menu=gameinfo%7CcontentId%3A0ap3000000379824]Watch Cleveland Browns vs. Washington Redskins [08/18/2014] - NFL.com[/url]

Ridiculous.[/quote]

I love all the Browns QB talk today. I saw a post from NFL AM asking if Manziel is ready to be the starter, um did you see the game? How is this a serious question?

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[quote=takethecake;1078042]Love this: "Browns vs. Redskins highlights" on NFL.com shows not a single redskins offensive snap.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2014081800/2014/PRE2/browns@redskins#tab=recap&menu=gameinfo%7CcontentId%3A0ap3000000379824]Watch Cleveland Browns vs. Washington Redskins [08/18/2014] - NFL.com[/url]

Ridiculous.[/quote]

No, see they messed up the title, it's supposed to say "Manziel v. Redskins" highlights

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The holding was supposed to go both ways - receivers are supposed to be scrutinized as much as DB's for pushing off and their own holding. I haven't watched a whole lot of preseason, but it sounds like it's the DB's being flagged significantly more than the WR's.

To me it seems like the lowering of the head for RB's penalty from not too long ago. They flagged it in preseason and I don't know that I've seen it flagged since... even thought we saw it last night.

So I doubt we're going to see this in the regular season but who knows.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1078043]Seriously do those guys have an ax to grind against RG3? He made his share of mistakes out there but the bomb was perfect. He looked right the entire time to keep the safety honest and threw it back left, dropped it right in there.[/quote]

Definitely overkill in their analysis.

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[quote=Mattyk;1078044]I love all the Browns QB talk today. I saw a post from NFL AM asking if Manziel is ready to be the starter, um did you see the game? How is this a serious question?[/quote]

I havent gotten that from the beginning. Hoyer sucks, I just don't get it.

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[quote=tshile;1078046]The holding was supposed to go both ways - receivers are supposed to be scrutinized as much as DB's for pushing off and their own holding. I haven't watched a whole lot of preseason, but it sounds like it's the DB's being flagged significantly more than the WR's.

To me it seems like the lowering of the head for RB's penalty from not too long ago. They flagged it in preseason and I don't know that I've seen it flagged since... even thought we saw it last night.

So I doubt we're going to see this in the regular season but who knows.[/quote]

Oh I think we'll see it, just when it's more obvious. There's no way they can keep tossing 20 flags a game. In the regular season you have to let them play.

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Yeah and we'll probably only see it against the DB's

I don't know how much they can keep pushing this... maybe people will never stop watching, but the advantage to the offense is getting old. I know I'm not the only one that feels that way.

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After watching the Browns game, I am concerned that RGIII might never "get it" and learn to protect himself on the run. As of today, unless this behavior of his changes, I expect him to be injured again this season while running and failing to get out of bounds or to slide in time to avoid a hit.

I'm sure that Robert understands the need to fix this problem on an intellectual level. But I suspect that what he does now is deeply ingrained in him and it has only become a behavioral problem now that he is in the NFL where he is competing against better athletes than he faced in college. Nevertheless, his behavior needs to change immediately if there is to be any hope of his playing a full season.

The Redskins coaching staff has failed to communicate to Robert the importance of protecting himself. Verbal communication hasn't worked. So now I think the staff needs to address this problem by replacing his current behavior with another learned behavior. To be specific, I think they should create special drills for him to practice exactly when to get out of bounds and when and how to slide. They should make him practice this over and over and correct him whenever he fails to adequately protect himself or slide properly during a drill. This needs to be a high priority and the staff needs to keep doing these drills until his behavior changes.

I'm serious about this. It is a major issue for Robert, this team, and the franchise. The coaching staff must teach him through repetition that the time for him to get out of bounds or slide is sooner than he is currently doing it.

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[quote=mredskins;1078039]Hmmm...as a long time Red Sox fan I saw the opposite. After 2004 Fenway was populated with a rich low IQ fan base.

Anywho when you are at the game your IQ drops it is the fun of being at the game.

Last night they said the Redskins have finished in last place of the NFC East 5 out of the last 6 seasons. Man we are a bad franchise. I knew that fact but it just really hit home when they said it last night.[/quote]

Boston fans make any other fan base look better.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk;1078014]He needs a lot of work. There's no way he's ready to be a week one starter. The Browns should just name Hoyer the guy and get on with it.[/QUOTE]


Hoyer was even worse. Atleast Jonny has legs.

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The stat last nite showed usually preseason averages around 12-13 flags per game and it drops by 1 or 2 for the regular season. This preseason its around 19. So even with a slight drop-off it is still going to be well above past years on average.

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[quote=punch it in;1078055]Hoyer was even worse. Atleast Jonny has legs.[/quote]

I'm sorry man, but this is a weak argument. Hoyer is the more experienced QB and can probably give the Browns the better chance to win. Unfortunately, Cleveland is having Hoyer split the reps with Johnny Crybaby, and it's screwing them both. Manziel has a lot to learn and is just not ready to be the starter period. It would serve both players and the team for Hoyer to be the starter and Manziel be the back up for game three. Give Hoyer more reps with the first team and Manziel reps with the second team.

Unless their defense can somehow carry them, I don't see Cleveland winning many games with that mess of a QB situation.

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I saw Ruhskins post a pic of this earlier. What happened on this play? It didn't look like he was hit in the above sequence.

[QUOTE=mredskins;1078026]This is a good wrap up of Griffins night.

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2167547-bad-habits-still-hurting-rgiii-as-redskins-struggle-to-excel-in-new-offense]Bad Habits Still Hurting RGIII as Redskins Struggle to Excel in New Offense | Bleacher Report[/url]


BR nicked picked the Roberts throw. Looking at I don't know where else he good have placed it.[/QUOTE]


I was very happy, in fact kind of surprised to see 6/8 with a 14 ypa. When watching the game I felt like those numbers were 5/12. Turnovers though and recklessness obviously causes for concern.

I also didn't really like the power running game nor was I happy to see Morris not only get 11 carries but also 3 or 4 rough ones down by the Goal line. Though the announcers probably had a good point that the coaches were probably ecstatic to get a live game Goal Line situation. That play where he lost his helmet made my heart skip a beat (also you'd think there'd be a picture of it somewhere on the net).