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[quote=Twilbert07;542113]Wow, Wilbon really hates the Redskins, doesn't he?

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/02/AR2009040202218.html]washingtonpost.com[/url][/quote]

Awesome article!! I couldn't have said it better myself. I'm not Wilbon fan, but he nailed it on this article.

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[quote=Twilbert07;542113]Wow, Wilbon really hates the Redskins, doesn't he?

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/02/AR2009040202218.html]washingtonpost.com[/url][/quote]

Actually I always thought Wilbon has a soft spot for the Skins, but this lunacy is making many a fan -who thought Gibbs 2's lesson were all about patience, winning from within, character counts etc - sick. At least it is making me sick.

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[quote=Twilbert07;542113]Wow, Wilbon really hates the Redskins, doesn't he?

[URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/02/AR2009040202218.html"]washingtonpost.com[/URL][/quote]

I find it hard to argue with any of his points.

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[quote=RedTempleSkin;542110]Last year we played 6 division games, all against top 10 defenses. Played the Steelers and Ravens, both top 10 defenses. We also played the Bengals(12th) and the 49ers(13th). That is 10 games against the better defenses in the league, Cutler can't say he did anything close.[/quote]
I am not sure we scored 30 point in any game last year. Most of the time we cant score more that five field goals. If Campbell was such a talent then why wont anyone give a second round pick for a franchise quarterback.

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Cooleys blog. Looks like the same clip of Kelley with Jason at the CAPS game last pm...

[url=http://chriscooley47.blogspot.com/2009/04/tc-jc17-on-rumors.html]The Official Blog of Chris Cooley: TC: JC17 on the Rumors[/url]

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Anyone who makes excuses for Cutler's record on account of Denver's poor defense need look no further than our injured, decaying offensive line for Campbell's struggles down the stretch last year.

Both players were 8-8 last year with nearly identical passer ratings. We were a much more run oriented team last year, and Denver lost like 8 RBs to injury. Their O-line was superior to ours, especially in pass protection, not to mention their receivers WAY outperformed ours. They threw more often due to a piss poor defense and decimated backfield, thus the inflated yardage stats.

Another thing to consider is the caliber of defenses each QB faced. Denver got to see the likes of the AFC West. We play the Giants, Eagles, and Cowboys twice apiece, not too mention the likes of Pitt and Baltimore.

Cutler is no more of a winner or leader than Jason, side by side their passing efficiency is very similar, and Jason throws far less INTs.

Again, in a straight up deal I'd take Cutler of JC. But what we're supposedly offering for this crybaby malcontent is just too much IMO.

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[quote=freddyg12;541401]Incorrect. They traded their 06 1st rounder & a 3rd rounder for Denver's 05 1st rounder. The net loss was only a 3rd round pick. Best move of Joe Gibbs II IMO.[/quote]
I cant remember exactly how we traded up for Campbell, but we gave up alot to get him.
Here is a part of JLC Insider:
"If the Skins make a trade for picks only, and Denver does not want Jason Campbell (and the delay in the trade has led several executives to assume that is the case), then the trade value for the quarterback will drop more. The Skins were seeking a second-rounder for Campbell ([B]they dealt multiple picks in order to move up in the draft and take him in 2005[/B]) but two executives said that if the Skins are stuck with Cutler and Campbell, they may have to settle for a third or worse. No one would be rushing to help alleviate Washington's problems now, and the execs said it would be silly for a club to go ahead and trade a second for Campbell, given the uncertainty with the Cutler deal."

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[url=http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/sports/Redskins-Cutler-trade-42337677.html]www.washingtonexaminer.com >> Sports[/url]

Trade is imminent??

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Listening to Wilcots and Schein today on NFL radio they were both saying that trading for Cutler is a no-brainer for teams like the Jets, Vikes, Skins, etc. And neither had a problem with giving up 2 first rounders.

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I am Jason Campbell...actually, I'm not. But I just had my peformance review and my boss said "your leadership style is effective but kind of laid-back, so just be sure that people aren't confusing that with lack of desire or assertiveness" and I thought "I'm Jason Campbell!"

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[quote=Mattyk72;542137]Listening to Wilcots and Schein today on NFL radio they were both saying that trading for Cutler is a no-brainer for teams like the Jets, Vikes, Skins, etc. And neither had a problem with giving up 2 first rounders.[/quote]

Maybe Denver is going to throw in Ryan Clady to sweeten the deal.

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[quote=WaldSkins;542136][URL="http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/sports/Redskins-Cutler-trade-42337677.html"]www.washingtonexaminer.com >> Sports[/URL]

Trade is imminent??[/quote]

We might as well get used to it I guess, it's gonna happen. What Danny wants, Danny gets.

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[quote=SmootSmack;542138]I am Jason Campbell...actually, I'm not. But I just had my peformance review and my boss said "your leadership style is effective but kind of laid-back, so just be sure that people aren't confusing that with lack of desire or assertiveness" and I thought "I'm Jason Campbell!"[/quote]

What's the shimmy on all of this Cutler BS SS? I don't believe JLC but were there is smoke . . . .

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[quote=T.O.Killa;542130]I am not sure we scored 30 point in any game last year. Most of the time we cant score more that five field goals. [B]If Campbell was such a talent then why wont anyone give a second round pick for a franchise quarterback.[/B][/quote]
possibly because, everyone knows we want to offload him. and he has a bad media rap. a small part of me would like to see Jason Campbell go to an AFC West team, and light up the stage. but only cuz I feel he is a far more composed and professional and classy guy then Cutler (and maybe Snyder).

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;542142]What's the shimmy on all of this Cutler BS SS? I don't believe JLC but were there is smoke . . . .[/quote]

I've got nothing new to report really, haven't had time. Been too busy with work

Apparently though the Redskins have an advantage being in the NFC, the Broncos are asking a lot more of AFC teams

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[quote=SmootSmack;542144]I've got nothing new to report really, haven't had time. Been too busy with work

Apparently though the Redskins have an advantage being in the NFC, the Broncos are asking a lot more of AFC teams[/quote]

Denver does know we play them this year correct?

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[quote=T.O.Killa;542130]I am not sure we scored 30 point in any game last year. Most of the time we cant score more that five field goals. If Campbell was such a talent then why wont anyone give a second round pick for a franchise quarterback.[/quote]

we did not score well last year, but we did not have the option of playing SanDiego, K.C. or the radiers either. These are the game that Denver scored well in, we a good defense came around they did do well.

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After reading the wilbon article I can't be more disappointed about this trade. Cutler and Campbell are the same QB, god only knows what we are going to have to give up for this Cutler guy.

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Wilbon hits the nail on the head IMO. I don't always agree with him, but he's dead on here.

Snyder is a moron. I'm really aggravated. This is just stupid. Stupid stupid stupid.

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[quote=RedTempleSkin;542146]we did not score well last year, but we did not have the option of playing SanDiego, K.C. or the radiers either. These are the game that Denver scored well in, [B]we a good defense came around they did do well.[/quote][/B]

What?:confused:

Re: Broncos to trade Cutler
 

[quote=Twilbert07;542113]Wow, Wilbon really hates the Redskins, doesn't he?

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/02/AR2009040202218.html]washingtonpost.com[/url][/quote]

I think it is just terrible to watch what our Front Office does. It makes a lot of people sick, and the rest of them happy that they do the dumb things they do.

As for Wilbon, he is 100% right on this one.

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[quote=GMScud;542148]Wilbon hits the nail on the head IMO. I don't always agree with him, but he's dead on here.

Snyder is a moron. I'm really aggravated. This is just stupid. Stupid stupid stupid.[/quote]

Still, nothing has happened. And we don't know what the compensation would be if something were to happen. And if he was such an idiot, then wouldn't we be upset with the team he has put together now and want to make changes?

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Well i just heard that Cutler is now saying he dont want to be traded, saying he loves denver and dosent want to go anywhere...wtf? Wasnt he asking the Broncos for a trade like a few weeks ago?

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[quote=MiraclesHappen07;542154]Well i just heard that Cutler is now saying he dont want to be traded, saying he loves denver and dosent want to go anywhere...wtf? Wasnt he asking the Broncos for a trade like a few weeks ago?[/quote]

He wants to make it seem like he is the victim and won't be a problem on perspective teams that are seeking him.

This guy doesn't give an eff where he plays as long as the green is coming in. Remember too he sold his and his parents house in the Denver area.

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[quote=SmootSmack;542144]I've got nothing new to report really, haven't had time. Been too busy with work

Apparently though the Redskins have an advantage being in the NFC, the Broncos are asking a lot more of AFC teams[/quote]

It's because you're to laid back. If Jay Cutler was a mod here we would have such a better forum. New threads left and right. Tons of discussion,even if it involves pointless bickering. You need to become more assertive.

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Sorry if it's been mentioned but let's hope it doesn't include CC.

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They should give us compensation to take him off their hands. I say stick with Soup.

Cutler is a punk.

Oh yeah, even if Soup isn't the man. What about Todd and Colt? Todd took us to the playoffs. How many playoff games has Cutler, Soup, or Colt taken us to? How many playoff games has Cutler been in?

Exactly.

If anyone should play besides Soup it should be Todd. I like Colt, but F Colt. He's as fresh as Palmolive. He needs at least another year then he should be able to play.

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The examiner say that the Redskins are trading for Cutler as we speek.
[url=http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/04/02/redskins-in-the-mix-for-cutler/]NFL.com Blogs » Blog Archive Redskins reportedly pursuing Cutler «[/url]

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[quote=SmootSmack;542153]Still, nothing has happened. And we don't know what the compensation would be if something were to happen. And if he was such an idiot, then wouldn't we be upset with the team he has put together now and want to make changes?[/quote]

Im not the biggest JC supporter but i feel that he could hold his own and be a dependable starting quarterback. I think if he was given a stable offense for a couple seasons he could produce better numbers then he ever has. But this is DC people, Snyder wants to win now. Some say Colt Brennan could lead this team in the future, but it takes time. Snyder can't wait just like all of us can't wait for the season to start.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;542162]The examiner say that the Redskins are trading for Cutler as we speek.
[URL="http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/04/02/redskins-in-the-mix-for-cutler/"]NFL.com Blogs » Blog Archive Redskins reportedly pursuing Cutler «[/URL][/quote]

There is no time stamp on that article. It could be from early this morning.

I don't believe it. We don't have enough ammo to get Cutler...Thank God.

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Man i feel srry for Campbell the most here, if he does leave and cutler becomes our starter providing we do get him, goodluck to campbell where ever he goes

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[quote=Skinny Tee;542164]There is no time stamp on that article. It could be from early this morning.

I don't believe it. We don't have enough ammo to get Cutler...Thank God.[/quote]

Don't have enough ammo? We've got 2 first round picks and a starting caliber qb on our roster. What exactly are you talking about?

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If the Cutler deal goes down, which seems imminent, who is the bigger offseason acquisition, Cutler or Haynesworth?

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Don't you think that Denver would want some defensive players?

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Just got a brief update, looks like Cutler will be traded within the next two hours or so. Will he be traded here? Stay tuned

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Redskins Fans! Dan "The Ringmaster" Synder has just changed the name of the team to the Washington Circus Clowns! He has fired Vinny and Coach Zorn and brought in Ronald McDonald to run the operations. He believes this will boost revenue to Mcdonald customers cuz they love Clowns! What an idiot! Hail to the real Redskins 4 life!

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[quote=SmootSmack;542169]Just got a brief update, looks like Cutler will be traded within the next two hours or so. Will he be traded here? Stay tuned[/quote]

Alright that's it, I'm going out to work out.. Just to prevent myself from worrying too much and maybe even getting ulcer.. Definitely will be back on after 2 hrs..

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[quote=SmootSmack;542169]Just got a brief update, looks like Cutler will be traded within the next two hours or so. Will he be traded here? Stay tuned[/quote]

Just in time for Sportscenter. How convenient. ESPN runs the universe. :silly:

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[quote=GridIron26;542172]Alright that's it, I'm going out to work out.. Just to prevent myself from worrying too much and maybe even getting ulcer.. Definitely will be back on after 2 hrs..[/quote]

How could you leave this mayhem? You know you love it.

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[quote=KingRaloIV;542171]Redskins Fans! Dan "The Ringmaster" Synder has just changed the name of the team to the Washington Circus Clowns! He has fired Vinny and Coach Zorn and brought in Ronald McDonald to run the operations. He believes this will boost revenue to Mcdonald customers cuz they love Clowns! What an idiot! Hail to the real Redskins 4 life![/quote]

Thanks for the quality commentary, you've added a lot to the discussion.