Re: Our next coach??
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;637235]Just one possibility, but i'll lay out my thinking if it were to play out -

If none of Snyder's "A-list" coaches want to come here, and Snyder retains Cerrato, he's going to have two big problems - 1) Forming a "B-list" and selecting a HC from there, 2) maintaining some sense of continuity so we're not starting over with an unknown (like Zorn); and 3) appeasing a fanbase that will be in full-on revolt mold.

Given that he's the guy the fans wanted in the first place and that he's a defensive-minded head coach who runs the same system we still use, hiring Williams would effectively solve problems 2 and 3. Williams would keep the offensive and defensive systems pretty much in place. Blache would undoubtably "retire," which would also please a great number of fans. Jerry Gray would be promoted to DC, with Sherm Lewis, Chris Meidt, or some other experienced WCO guy taking over the offense. In 2010, the team could pick up right where it left off and would be more in a position to have immediate succcess, as opposed to rebuilding from the ground up, as would be the case with most other hires.

Based on my understanding, Snyder and Williams both really like - and respect - eachother. The only obstacle which would prevent Williams from returning would be Cerrato, as he and williams dont like eachother. Well, Cerrato would understand that while he survived this particular offseason - he's still on an incredibly short leash. having immediate success with a new HC would be job security for him. From Williams perspective, he really liked it here in his 1st stint; he's familiar with the majority of the players; and i'm sure he'd rather be a HC here than a coordinator elsewhere. So it would make sense for everyone involved.

I'm not saying its the most likely scenario to occur, but thats how i could imagine it occuring, since you asked.[/quote]

That sounds good to me. That only means it will not happen.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;637216]charlie weiss will go to chicago to be the Ocoodinator, they will keep their head coach.[/quote]

The bears have also had horrible offenses under Lovie Smith and their defense has been regressing. The bears also made a very significant investment in Cutler (both in terms of dollars and the players and picks they traded to denver to get him) and they need to ensure that that investment pays dividends. Shanahan could get the most out of Cutler and build the appropriate offense around him. I don't think the Bears would fire Lovie without already having a secret agreement in place with Shanahan, but its extremely possible. The biggest obstacle to a deal being done would be Shanahan's contract. The Bears are pretty frugal and I don't know if they'd be willing to pay Shanahan what he'd demand.

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[quote=SBXVII;637238]On sports talk ESPN 980am/94.3fm on the Sports Fix Kevin Sheehan was speaking with someone asking what was going on around the wire and whoever it was finally got around to talking about Cowher. Basically said he spoke with a close friend of Cowher and according to them...Cowher has said "he has no interest in working for Snyder."[/quote]

If I were a mod, i'd change your sig to say "dreamkiller."

Doesn't surprise me though. I just hope Dallas doesn't get him. We'd be at the bottom of the division for the next decade.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;637244]The bears have also had horrible offenses under Lovie Smith and their defense has been regressing. The bears also made a very significant investment in Cutler (both in terms of dollars and the players and picks they traded to denver to get him) and they need to ensure that that investment pays dividends. Shanahan could get the most out of Cutler and build the appropriate offense around him. I don't think the Bears would fire Lovie without already having a secret agreement in place with Shanahan, but its extremely possible. The biggest obstacle to a deal being done would be Shanahan's contract. The Bears are pretty frugal and I don't know if they'd be willing to pay Shanahan what he'd demand.[/quote]

The problem wouldn't so much be paying Shanahan. It would be paying Shanahan and Lovie Smith, who would still be under contract and due something like $5 million over each of the next two years

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My head hurts from all the wild speculation going on up in here.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;637235]Just one possibility, but i'll lay out my thinking if it were to play out -

If none of Snyder's "A-list" coaches want to come here, and Snyder retains Cerrato, he's going to have two big problems - 1) Forming a "B-list" and selecting a HC from there, 2) maintaining some sense of continuity so we're not starting over with an unknown (like Zorn); and 3) appeasing a fanbase that will be in full-on revolt mold.

Given that he's the guy the fans wanted in the first place and that he's a defensive-minded head coach who runs the same system we still use, hiring Williams would effectively solve problems 2 and 3. Williams would keep the offensive and defensive systems pretty much in place. Blache would undoubtably "retire," which would also please a great number of fans. Jerry Gray would be promoted to DC, with Sherm Lewis, Chris Meidt, or some other experienced WCO guy taking over the offense. In 2010, the team could pick up right where it left off and would be more in a position to have immediate succcess, as opposed to rebuilding from the ground up, as would be the case with most other hires.

Based on my understanding, Snyder and Williams both really like - and respect - eachother. The only obstacle which would prevent Williams from returning would be Cerrato, as he and williams dont like eachother. Well, Cerrato would understand that while he survived this particular offseason - he's still on an incredibly short leash. having immediate success with a new HC would be job security for him. From Williams perspective, he really liked it here in his 1st stint; he's familiar with the majority of the players; and i'm sure he'd rather be a HC here than a coordinator elsewhere. So it would make sense for everyone involved.

I'm not saying its the most likely scenario to occur, but thats how i could imagine it occuring, since you asked.[/quote]

Just one point here regarding familiarity with the majority of the players. Williams never coached Orakpo, Moore, Horton, Jarmon, Barnes, Hall, Thomas, Kelly, Davis, etc. All I'm saying is come next year most of this team could be nothing like what it was when Williams left

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[quote=SmootSmack;637253]The problem wouldn't so much be paying Shanahan. It would be paying Shanahan and Lovie Smith, who would still be under contract and due something like $5 million over each of the next two years[/quote]

It would be a big obstacle, indeed. The Bears took a huge gamble in trading for Cutler. The question now is whether or not they're willing to go "all in" and build around him or accept they made a mistake and live with it. I dont see Cutler getting any better under Turner and I don't see a Weiss and Cutler marriage working out at all.

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[quote=Mattyk72;637258]My head hurts from all the wild speculation going on up in here.[/quote]

I've heard SGG has to be admin for an NHL fansite but he's waiting to see if you'll can Gmanc and give him full control over sig rules and font sizes? What do you have to say about that

Re: Our next coach??
 

[quote=SmootSmack;637259]Just one point here regarding familiarity with the majority of the players. Williams never coached Orakpo, Moore, Horton, Jarmon, Barnes, Hall, Thomas, Kelly, Davis, etc. All I'm saying is come next year most of this team could be nothing like what it was when Williams left[/quote]

I was mainly thinking about the defensive players. Though we've had some turnover there, Williams is familiar with many of them. And considering Blache is one of his disciples, its logical to assume that Williams would be fairly happy with the 2009 and 2009 defensive draft picks we have on the roster... especialy now that we have a defensive line. He also is responsible for hiring almost all of our defensive coaches, so assembling a staff wouldn't be very difficult.

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[quote=SmootSmack;637261]I've heard SGG has to be admin for an NHL fansite but he's waiting to see if you'll can Gmanc and give him full control over sig rules and font sizes? What do you have to say about that[/quote]

lol exactly

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[quote=Mattyk72;637268]lol exactly[/quote]

Are you going to admit that you flew out to Cincinnati to speak to one of the moderators of a Bengals fan site to see if he'd sign with TheWarpath.net?

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[quote=SmootSmack;637271]Are you going to admit that you flew out to Cincinnati to speak to one of the moderators of a Bengals fan site to see if he'd sign with TheWarpath.net?[/quote]

That was just a smokescreen, I'm really looking at a moderator on a Notre Dame site. And I'm not flying, I'm taking a limo. A limo that I heard Tiger Woods rented once.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;637264]I was mainly thinking about the defensive players. Though we've had some turnover there, Williams is familiar with many of them. And considering Blache is one of his disciples, its logical to assume that Williams would be fairly happy with the 2009 and 2009 defensive draft picks we have on the roster... especialy now that we have a defensive line. He also is responsible for hiring almost all of our defensive coaches, so assembling a staff wouldn't be very difficult.[/quote]

GW is not gonna be here, our performance agianst his defense last week closed that book for me. Promoting Jerry Grey to HC, maybe...

I disagree Charlie Weiss couldn't work with Jay Cutler. The problem with the Bears is they have no wideouts. Weiss has already exspressed interest in going there. It's really a no brainer.

Shannahan here is a foregone conclusion. Too much money man! Why go anywhere else if you get 10 mil more here?

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[quote=Mattyk72;637275]That was just a smokescreen, I'm really looking at a moderator on a Notre Dame site. And I'm not flying, I'm taking a limo. [B]A limo that I heard Tiger Woods rented once[/B].[/quote]

You'll be alright if one of the hot girls comes with the limo.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;637246]If I were a mod, i'd change your sig to say "dreamkiller."

Doesn't surprise me though. I just hope Dallas doesn't get him. We'd be at the bottom of the division for the next decade.[/quote]

I didn't mean to ruin any hopes. I have my list of names

Marty
Cowher
Gruden
Shanahan

Then the long list of others

Re: Our next coach??
 

[quote=SBXVII;637307]I didn't mean to ruin any hopes. I have my list of names

Marty
Cowher
Gruden
Shanahan

Then the long list of others[/quote]

I'll ruin your hopes, you can cross off the first 3 right now

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[quote=SBXVII;637281]You'll be alright if one of the hot girls comes with the limo.[/quote]
other then the first one to come forward, the rest look like a bunch of pigs:(

Re: Our next coach??
 

[quote=diehardskin2982;637216]charlie weiss will go to chicago to be the Ocoodinator, they will keep their head coach.[/quote]

Weis is going somewhere that has the opportunity to draft Clausen (Buffalo?) so he can be successful faster. If a college coach is going to Chicago as the OC it will be Jeremy Bates.

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[quote=dmek25;637319]other then the first one to come forward, the rest look like a bunch of pigs:([/quote]

a total skank parade

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[quote=Mattyk72;637321]a total skank parade[/quote]

Apparently Tiger has an alcohol problem as well?

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[quote=Hog1;637325]Apparently Tiger has an alcohol problem as well?[/quote]

Possibly drugs too, at least from what the rumor mill is churning out

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Saw today where an 11th woman is coming foreward to report an affair. No joke.

This is unbelievable. I read comments from one of Tiger's ex's that he had an "insatiable" sex appetite, and apparantly he has been that way for a long time....

I was taken aback....i really didn't think Tiger was like that....we were all shocked i think.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;637338]Saw today where an 11th woman is coming foreward to report an affair. No joke.

This is unbelievable. I read comments from one of Tiger's ex's that he had an "insatiable" sex appetite, and apparantly he has been that way for a long time....

I was taken aback....i really didn't think Tiger was like that....we were all shocked i think.[/quote]

And there's probably many more that are being paid pretty well to not talk.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;637338]Saw today where an 11th woman is coming foreward to report an affair. No joke.

This is unbelievable. I read comments from one of Tiger's ex's that he had an "insatiable" sex appetite, and apparantly he has been that way for a long time....

I was taken aback....i really didn't think Tiger was like that....we were all shocked i think.[/quote]

Skeletons sometime reside in unthought of places.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;637338]Saw today where an 11th woman is coming foreward to report an affair. No joke.

This is unbelievable. I read comments from one of Tiger's ex's that he had an "insatiable" sex appetite, and apparantly he has been that way for a long time....

I was taken aback....i really didn't think Tiger was like that....we were all shocked i think.[/quote]

Are these all protracted affairs, or some one-night stands as well?

Re: Our next coach??
 

[quote=SmootSmack;637350]Are these all protracted affairs, or some one-night stands as well?[/quote]

I think it's a little of both. At least 2 of the women said that Tiger promised to leave his wife for them....they obviously had no idea about each other.

LOL at one of the girls being from a magazine called "Trashy Girls"...

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hey, stop taking over a redskins coach thread with Tiger talk! take that crap in the off-topic section!

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[quote=SBXVII;637281]You'll be alright if one of the hot girls comes with the limo.[/quote]

Maybe you can get Portis to send some of the Atlanta action that way.

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[quote=Hog1;637325]Apparently Tiger has an alcohol problem as well?[/quote]

He has a [B]"dirty panoche"[/B] problem and whatever else ails him.

Re: Our next coach??
 

I mean holy sh*t i am seriously surprised by Tiger's secret life. He seemed laid back and generally down-to-earth in interviews and otherwise on camera.

I understand he's likely been under enormous pressure for a long time, which can lead people to find "release" in things like sex and drugs. Or some people just really like sex and drugs lol.

And now back to our regularly scheduled program...

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[quote=diehardskin2982;637359]hey, stop taking over a redskins coach thread with Tiger talk! take that crap in the off-topic section![/quote]

I kinda observed the same thing. I think they are simply trying to find out if Tiger used his Tee time to Iron out his Wood issues. I guess his Driver had no problem letting him Putter around town with his Balls in those Bags coochie's. I hope the grass was just as Green on the other side.

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I'm not defending Tiger or condoning his actions but I find all of the piling on Tiger amazing. The guy has gone from god to demon incredibly fast.

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If Tiger can handle the field with 11 women, then he can handle 11 players on the field. Tiger for head coach!

(just trying to bring this thread back to coaching)

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[quote=SmootSmack;637558]If Tiger can handle the field with 11 women, then he can handle 11 players on the field. Tiger for head coach!

(just trying to bring this thread back to coaching)[/quote]

Hey... the dudes good at multi-tasking. :)

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On DC 101 this morning they said two more women has came foreward, bringing the total to 13 women and counting.

The two women were from Tiger's bachelor party in 2004, and one of them named Holly something is a porn star and she said that he took her in to the room and they did "whatever".

And now there is an alleged Tiger Woods sex tape that production companies are offering 10 million for......

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This tiger issue is nonsense. The only real issue is that he's married. Otherwise we have a young guy who is rich and famous and using it to bang an assortment of hot women. He's living the dream for most single guys. I guess the real question is why did this fool get married if he was still in his bang every chick in sight phase.

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[quote=celts32;637581]This tiger issue is nonsense. The only real issue is that he's married. Otherwise we have a young guy who is rich and famous and using it to bang an assortment of hot women. [B] He's living the dream for most single guys. I guess the real question is why did this fool get married if he was still in his bang every chick in sight phase[/B].[/quote]

He wants to have his cake and eat it too. Rarely works.

Re: Our next coach??
 

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Snoop knows football, he's doing a great job with that youth league.

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Sadly, I agree.