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[quote=SmootSmack;649111][B]Shanahan is about as sure a thing as a Antwaan Randle El fair catch. [/B]But just like ARE busted out a 43 yard punt return today...[B]there's no telling what might happen with Shanahan[/B].[/quote]

that does not help at all.:)

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[quote=Big C;649094]b mitch says that he thinks shanahan isnt such a sure thing. on a side note, jerry gray had a very impressive interview after the game. would be interesting what role he plays in this head coaching search[/quote]

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I get a sense that B Mitch thinks Gray could be the wild card in this coaching search. B Mitch seems really impressed Gray as well.
I would not be surprised if Gray somehow emerged from this the next HC.

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[quote=SBXVII;649110]Rumor was if he lost his last 2 games he would be fired. He won the last 2 games. Rumor is the owner would keep him if he ended well, broke even 8-8, and won the last 2 games.

here's the question. Did Kubiac say he was staying? or was it the owner? [B]It still doesn't mean Kubiac can't quit and be hired by Shanahan. right? [/B]

I was kinda hoping we could pick up Alex Gibbs as our OL coach so I guess I was hoping they would fire Kubiac and look for a new HC. It would make our chances greater of picking up Alex Gibbs. If Kubiac stays I can't see us being able to raid their coaching staff. Shanahan won't burn a friend like that.[/quote]

Maybe. But if I'm Kubiak there's no way I'm quitting as a head man to be an assistant elsewhere. If nothing else, such behavior could damage his chances for being a head man again in the future.

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[quote=Lotus;649121]Maybe. But if I'm Kubiak there's no way I'm quitting as a head man to be an assistant elsewhere. If nothing else, such behavior could damage his chances for being a head man again in the future.[/quote]

Seriously, in what universe would that make sense? Nobody would quit a HC job to be a assistant.

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[quote=SmootSmack;649111]Shanahan is about as sure a thing as a Antwaan Randle El fair catch. But just like ARE busted out a 43 yard punt return today...there's no telling what might happen with Shanahan.[/quote]


LOL! Nice so true. When ARE busted that return I was like WTF.

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[quote=SBXVII;649104]To me all the signs, stars, and rumors point to Shanahan. No one else is even mentioned. It would turn DC upside down if Shanahan said no and went elsewhere.

Oh I'm sure some would be estatic like the ones who don't want him at all but since the break we have heard that he might be coming, 2 weeks ago we heard he was rumored to be the next HC, a week ago the contract was signed and Shanahan ready to take over, fans finally somewhat warm to the idea and BAM... he goes elsewhere.

That would be the ultimate suckage.[/quote]

If that happens I hope they give Russ Grim a hard look.

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[quote=Lotus;649121]Maybe. But if I'm Kubiak there's no way I'm quitting as a head man to be an assistant elsewhere. If nothing else, such behavior could damage his chances for being a head man again in the future.[/quote]


Totally agee if the situation is right. Kubiac has been fighting rumors that his job was on the line all year. It came down to the last game for the ownership to say (presumably) "we won't be firing him." If your a HC does that make you feel all warm and fuzzy? knowing the ownership was ready to can you with 2 games left. It took the last 2 games for them to make up their minds?

I agree he will stay. It would be crazy for any HC to simply give up his job as a HC to go work in a lesser capacity.... unless he's not happy where he's at. Most likely he is.

I guess it doesn't matter. We have Shanahan's son. I still think it would be nice to pick up Alex Gibbs for OL. It would be nice to see Shanahan pick up someone with a brilliant mind to help Kyle out and maybe be QB coach or something. ..... Peyton Manning anyone?

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This is from PFT:

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/03/mcnair-says-kubiak-will-definitely-be-back/]McNair says Kubiak will "definitely" be back | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

[QUOTE]McNair says Kubiak will "definitely" be back
Posted by Michael David Smith on January 3, 2010 7:05 PM ET
Houston Texans owner Bob McNair said today that Gary Kubiak will remain the team's head coach for the 2010 season.

"Gary's my coach," McNair said after the Texans beat the Patriots to finish the season 9-7. "I know there was speculation that he might not be, but he is. He'll definitely be back. I don't see any reason why he wouldn't be."

McNair, who was shown on TV grinning from ear to ear after the Texans beat the Patriots, praised the job Kubiak has done this season.

"Look at the conditions he coached under, all the injuries," McNair said. "I like Gary for a lot of reasons. He's got a great offensive mind. He has a great sense of how to push players and when to back off. He also doesn't play favorites. He treats players the same, and they respect him for it."

Kubiak has an overall record of 31-33 in four years with the Texans. After talk for much of this season that Kubiak could get fired, former Texans General Manager Charley Casserly, who's now a CBS analyst, reported that Kubiak might even get a contract extension.
[/QUOTE]

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Another funny question that was asked to Mike Florio was ...

Where does he see Shanahan going and he said the Skins. Then someone asked where Cowher was going and he said either the Bills or CBS. Due to limited options he sees Cowher going to the Bills. LOL. He could have had the Skins job at one point. ;) Good luck with the Bills. Unless JJ fires Wade Phillips at seasons end no matter what or John Fox leaves then the only jobs may be the Bills and Browns.

[QUOTE]8:51pm ET - Hey Mike, any news on Cowher and the Bills?
The Bills think they have a shot at him, because he has no other real options.
[/QUOTE]

I found this to be funny also:



[QUOTE]9:12pm ET - Where do you expect to see Cowher and Shanahan next season?
Shanahan in D.C. and Cowher either in Buffalo or at CBS.


9:11pm ET - Mike, can you please list all the coaches you think will be fired?
Too hard to tell this year. Bills won't keep Perry Fewell. Zorn is definitely out. Mangini probably will be. Jeff Fisher could try to finagle his way out of Tennessee. Giants should fire Tom Coughlin. Jim Mora could be in trouble depending on who the G.M. is. They should clear out the front office in Detroit, but they won't.

[/QUOTE]

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I thought this was interesting.

[url=http://forums.denverbroncos.com/showthread.php?t=159713&page=2]McDaniels defends Moreno and blames O-line - Page 2 - Broncos Country Message Boards[/url]

This is from a poster

[quote]Suddenly, in less than 1 year, one of the best lines in football became "trash" after the arrival of a new coach and running back. Oh, and don't forget about Orton ans his "auto-sacks".[/quote]

Translation: Shannahan can make players look better then they actually are. In other words the new O-Lineman that we bring in will probably be able to contribute immediately.

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I already love Shanahan!

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So i just read that they (DS/Allen) plan to announce Jim Zorn's firing later today...bittersweet moment forthcoming

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[quote=rbanerjee23;649260]So i just read that they (DS/Allen) plan to announce Jim Zorn's firing later today...bittersweet moment forthcoming[/quote]

Where?

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[quote=Ruhskins;649261]Where?[/quote]

I saw the report on the ESPN ticker.

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[quote=Ruhskins;649261]Where?[/quote]

[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/nfl/01/03/redskins.zorn.ap/index.html]Source says Redskins will fire Jim Zorn on Monday - NFL - SI.com[/url]

7 Phases of Jim Zorn
 

[B]Denial:[/B] Zorn starts working on offseason program for team.

[B]Guilt:[/B] Realizing he's been fired Zorn reflects on the lack of situation specific preperation.

[B]Anger and Bargaining:[/B] Zorn ask God to have Vinny get hit by a bolt of lightning in exchange for a pack of peanuts.

[B]Depression and Reflection[/B]: Zorn walks around the house in his bath robe carrying his playbook and wearing a headset, reliving the Skins come from behind victory over the Saints in 2008.

[B]Acceptance:[/B] Zorn realizes that he's no longer the coach of the Redskins and accepts a job coaching QB's in Cleveland. Brady Quinn becomes a pro bowl alternate.

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There is a team meeting scheduled for 1030 today with a press conference around 12.

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Goodbye Jim, hello Mike. Or is it Bill??

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Bill? Where'd that come from? Do you know something?

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[quote=Dirtbag359;649267][B]Denial:[/B] Zorn starts working on offseason program for team.

[B]Guilt:[/B] Realizing he's been fired Zorn reflects on the lack of situation specific preperation.

[B]Anger and Bargaining:[/B] Zorn ask God to have Vinny get hit by a bolt of lightning in exchange for a pack of peanuts.

[B]Depression and Reflection[/B]: Zorn walks around the house in his bath robe carrying his playbook and wearing a headset, reliving the Skins come from behind victory over the Saints in 2008.

[B]Acceptance:[/B] Zorn realizes that he's no longer the coach of the Redskins and accepts a job coaching QB's in Cleveland. Brady Quinn becomes a pro bowl alternate.[/quote]

Hearing comments that the team wasn't prepared for situational type stuff is disheartening to say the least, and it really says a lot about the last 2 years on the field.

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[url=http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/sports/blogs/Watch-This/CBS-Charley-CasserlyShanahan-picking-his-Redskins-staff-80537292.html]CBS Charley Casserly:”Shanahan picking his Redskins staff | Washington Examiner[/url]

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Is Kyle's contract up? Given the fact that the Texans are keeping Kubiak, isnt it possible they'll be keeping Kyle too?

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;649386]Is Kyle's contract up? Given the fact that the Texans are keeping Kubiak, isnt it possible they'll be keeping Kyle too?[/quote]

He can be hired away if given a promotion, a fancy title like assistant head coach/offensive coordinator.

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Theismann just said that there will NOT be a coaching announcement today. He said he could confidently announce that.

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[quote=Mattyk;649389]He can be hired away if given a promotion, a fancy title like assistant head coach/offensive coordinator.[/quote]

oh no. i thought we were done with all those fancy titles.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;649386]Is Kyle's contract up? Given the fact that the Texans are keeping Kubiak, isnt it possible they'll be keeping Kyle too?[/quote]

His contract officially expires in two weeks

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;649390]Theismann just said that there will NOT be a coaching announcement today. He said he could confidently announce that.[/quote]

Thanks for the info

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Man can they just get on with it. Zorn is gone now. Just lets get it done.

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[quote=Paintrain;649123]Seriously, in what universe would that make sense? Nobody would quit a HC job to be a assistant.[/quote]

They can if Dan Snyder is giving them a raise...which we all know he can do.

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[quote=Mattyk;649366][URL="http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/sports/blogs/Watch-This/CBS-Charley-CasserlyShanahan-picking-his-Redskins-staff-80537292.html"]CBS Charley Casserly:”Shanahan picking his Redskins staff | Washington Examiner[/URL][/quote]

Looks great to me with Mike/Kyle and the Bengals DC. They had a great D this season, but we have even more talent to work with on defense. If he can get the Bengals' mostly unknown defenders to play as well as they did, what could he do with the Skins' talent?

:)

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Take what Theismann says with a grain of salt. Last night Jim Zorn himself was telling people he had "no idea" of an imminent firing. Although that was more to save face and not make the post-game talk about him, than anything else. classy move.

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Zorn was just saying what he had to say. Unless he's the dumbest guy in the world he knew this was coming.

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[quote=Mattyk;649451]Zorn was just saying what he had to say. Unless he's the dumbest guy in the world he knew this was coming.[/quote]

Yeah when Allen was hired he was surely fired

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Do you figure at this point Zorn would have wished he had resigned when Synderato took the playcalling from him???

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[quote=SolidSnake84;649458]Do you figure at this point Zorn would have wished he had resigned when Synderato took the playcalling from him???[/quote]

He probably would have forfeited some salary that way since he was voluntarily ending the relationship. By staying on, I believe it meant he gets paid his contracted rate.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;649458]Do you figure at this point Zorn would have wished he had resigned when Synderato took the playcalling from him???[/quote]

More precisely, I think he wished he could resign and still get his paychecks for next year. I think he understood the business aspect and would not regret staying on so that he gets his full contract. I wouldn't. And if he really is smart he would have used that time to prepare and learn and look at what he really needs to do to be better in his next job, if he takes one.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;649458]Do you figure at this point Zorn would have wished he had resigned when Synderato took the playcalling from him???[/quote]

2.5 million dollars for 3 months of "humiliation" as an NFL head coach? Slap my ass and call me Mary, show me the money.

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:lol: CHA-CHING!!!

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I may have missed this but does anyone have any thoughts as to whether Zimmer, if hired, would run the 3-4 or the 4-3. I know he has run both in the past and was just wondering as to what people on here think...

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[quote=rbanerjee23;649522]I may have missed this but does anyone have any thoughts as to whether Zimmer, if hired, would run the 3-4 or the 4-3. I know he has run both in the past and was just wondering as to what people on here think...[/quote]

From what I've read he only ran the 3-4 because that's what Parcells wanted. He'd never ran it before that.