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[quote=Dirtbag59;890173]Did you see them get drafted or were you being told by a third person?[/quote]

Watched it on TV, the crazy thing is we moved up to the Vikings spot to take Tannehill. I was ****ing livid and lucid

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[quote=mbedner3420;890169]I'm comfortable with this development. Screw Smoot and his insider information, you just keep dreaming, Chico! Do you remember any late round gems we snagged?[/quote]

ill take some melatonin tonight and get back with you. Im def interested to see who we get though.

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Between Nick Foles and Brandon Weeden, which of them is the better quarterback? I watched highlights on youtube of both men and came out impressed with how both of them could hit their targets on 3rd down and sustain drives.

Another thought that has been at the back of my mind lately is this: come training camp, what if Jonathan Crompton outshines John Beck or even Rex Grossman in training camp?

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[/QUOTE]
Another thought that has been at the back of my mind lately is this: come training camp, what if Jonathan Crompton outshines John Beck or even Rex Grossman in training camp?[/QUOTE]

that would be just great, but it better not happen at our camp atleast. i dont even want to see these 3 at our camp

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How would you all feel about Manning and Cousins?

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[quote=SmootSmack;890207]How would you all feel about Manning and Cousins?[/quote]

Lukewarm. I'm drunk on the RG3 koolaid.

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[quote=SmootSmack;890207]How would you all feel about Manning and Cousins?[/quote]
That was my first choice, but I have really fallen in love with RG3.

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[quote=SmootSmack;890207]How would you all feel about Manning and Cousins?[/quote]

I like it... for plan B.

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;890207]How would you all feel about Manning and Cousins?[/QUOTE]

I'd hate it....for any plan.

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[quote=SmootSmack;890207]How would you all feel about Manning and Cousins?[/quote]

I'd prefer Manning and Tannehill, but I'd be willing to give it a shot...so yeah....but like Matty said, for plan B.

I'd be thrilled with a healthy Peyton Manning or RGIII. Either one and I'm satisfied.

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[quote=Chico23231;890180]Watched it on TV, [B]the crazy thing is we moved up to the Vikings spot to take Tannehill[/B]. I was ****ing livid and lucid[/quote]

I don't like that dream, NO more dreaming for you.

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Tale of the Tape Andrew Luck vs. RGIII:

[url=http://www.csnwashington.com/blog/redskins-talk/post/Tale-of-the-tape-Luck-vs-RG3?blockID=659782&feedID=6355]Tale of the tape: Luck vs. RG3[/url]

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[url=http://www.csnchicago.com/blog/bears-talk/post/Breaking-down-the-film-Luck-or-Griffin?blockID=659752&feedID=10330&awid=7777979963602659600-914]Breaking down the film: Luck or Griffin?[/url]

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[quote=CultBrennan59;890130]Ok, how bout our OL interests in draft/FA I know we've talked with the top 3 OT's.[/quote]

We've talked to Rieff, Martin, Adams, as you mentioned.

Possible interest in Grubbs (not likely), Myers (not likely), Ryan Harris (possible), Marcus McNeill (possible)

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[quote=SmootSmack;890223]We've talked to Rieff, Martin, Adams, as you mentioned.

Possible interest in Grubbs (not likely), [B]Myers (not likely)[/B], Ryan Harris (possible), [B]Marcus McNeill (possible)[/B][/quote]

ugh... They'll be 30+ when the season starts... I say make a run at Grubbs and Harris.

Why didn't we sign Harris last offseason? Seemed like the logical destination for him, no?

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[quote=SmootSmack;890207]How would you all feel about Manning and Cousins?[/quote]

I REALLY hope we don't go the Manning route. Anyone but him. I hope this front office is getting away from that quick fix style. Cousins would seem like a solid pick in the 2nd or 3rd round.

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[quote=SmootSmack;890207]How would you all feel about Manning and Cousins?[/quote]

Excellentt....

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How do I feel about Peyton and Cousins?

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How do I feel about RG3 and ___?

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How would I feel about Luck and ____?

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[quote=SmootSmack;890207]How would you all feel about Manning and Cousins?[/quote]

dont think thats a bad thing. You save picks and possibly players.

Heard Chris Landry rave about Cousins after the combine. All the intangibles he rated as outstanding and on the field does everything good (arm strength, accuracy, reading defense) but nothing great. Landry went on to say a mid range draft pick with the potential to be a solid starter after sitting on the bench learning a system.

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[quote=SmootSmack;890223]We've talked to Rieff, Martin, Adams, as you mentioned.

Possible interest in Grubbs (not likely), Myers (not likely), Ryan Harris (possible), Marcus McNeill (possible)[/quote]

None in Gaither? I know he's nuts, but he's damn good when he plays.

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[quote=SmootSmack;890207]How would you all feel about Manning and Cousins?[/quote]

Is the team seriously considering this or are you just throwing stuff out there?

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I'd take Manning/Cousins

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Cousins will be a career back up....but I'd take him over Grossbeck.

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[quote=Evilgrin;890233]None in Gaither? I know he's nuts, but he's damn good when he plays.[/quote]

Not that I've heard

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;890235]Is the team seriously considering this or are you just throwing stuff out there?[/quote]

Not just throwing it out there

How would you feel about Weeden and Dennis Dixon....would be an example of just throwing it out there

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[QUOTE=REDSKINS4ever;890194]Between Nick Foles and Brandon Weeden, which of them is the better quarterback?[/QUOTE]I guess its a matter of preference both are good prospects.
First things first: I'm not put off by Weeden's age at all.

For me Weeden and Foles are similar prospects in that they are separated from the top tier QBs in this class because of ther comparative lack of athleticism and playmaking.
I think Weeden's velocity is really underrated, to my eye Weeden provides the same plus level of arm talent. (And it was on display at the combine where Weeden looked like he had the bigger arm then Foles)
From the games I've watched Weeden seems like the more polished QB.
Weeden is a more efficient passer even though to my eye plays with a more aggressive style (maybe its scheme or mentality?)
Foles seems to throw more 'gimme' passes where Weeden seems to attack more.
Finally Weeden to my eye has much cleaner footwork then Foles.

Weeden reminds me of a less athletic Andy Dalton but with better arm talent.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;890235]Is the team seriously considering this or are you just throwing stuff out there?[/quote]

From what we all know as of right now, Manning does appear to be plan B if the Rams to do accept what we are offering for the #2 pick, so Manning is definately in the picture with said rookie to be named at the draft.

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Manning/Tannehill is my number 1 choice atm

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[quote=SmootSmack;890244]Not just throwing it out there

How would you feel about Weeden and Dennis Dixon....would be an example of just throwing it out there[/quote]

lol, i didnt mean thowing out there as just throwing crap, but was more trying to ask legitmate speculation vs. based on actual rumors youve heard....

although id still take weeden and dixon over beck and grossman.

i'd be extremely excited about manning/cousins.

however, i'd also be extremely excited about trading a buttload of picks for griffin (i've actually warmed up to the guy. i started out dead-opposed to griffin b/c i thought he was not worth trading up for. im still not overly impressed with highlight reels ive seen as the competition isnt all that great but ive listened to a few interviews with him and am sold. he seems to have all the intangibles you could ever want in a qb. hes got the confidence of grossman and its actually backed up by this little thing called talent.

in the end, i think id prefer going manning/cousins, saving our draft picks, and signing wayne/garcon and saturday to give the offense the smoothest possible transition. cousins is nowhere near ready to start, but has tons of potential and the intangibles you want. he'd need a few years behind manning.

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[quote=SmootSmack;890207]How would you all feel about Manning and Cousins?[/quote]

If Manning got hurt then Cousins would be our starter? Are we trying to relive the 2011 Colts?

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;890263]From what we all know as of right now, Manning does appear to be plan B if the Rams to do accept what we are offering for the #2 pick, so Manning is definately in the picture with said rookie to be named at the draft.[/quote]

how do we know this? did i miss something?

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QBs are such a mystery. Even finding a guy who can stick around and be a career back-up seems ridiculously hard to do. See below for the last 12 years. Drafting high does seem to improve the odds, but there are also a lot of gems laken later (Brees, Rodgers, Brady of course, maybe Dalton). Shanny gets grief for whiffing the last couple of years, but whiffing is more common that hitting.

2011 - Newton, Locker, Gabbert, Ponder, [B]Dalton [/B]
2010 - Bradford, Tebow, Clausen, McCoy
2009 - Stafford, Sanchez, Freeman, Pat White
2008 - Ryan, Flacco, Brohm, Henne (Matt Flynn taken in the 7th)
2007 - Russell, Quinn, Kolb, BECK, (terrible year for QBs)
2006 - Young, Leinert, Cutler, Clemens, T. Jackson
2005 - Alex Smith, Rodgers, Campbell, Frye (Orton taken in the 4th, Cassell and Fitzpatrick in the 7th)
2004 - Eli, Rivers, Big Ben, Losman, Schaub (great year for QBs. Where were we?!?!)
2003 - Palmer, Leftwich, Boller, RGIII the first
2002 - Carr, Ramsey, Harrington, McCown, Gerrard
2001 - Vick, Brees, Q. Carter
2000 - The Brady 6, Tom Brady

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[quote=SmootSmack;890207]How would you all feel about Manning and Cousins?[/quote]Cousins in particular or any later round developmental QB?

Manning + a 1st round OT + a later round QB (4th round or down) is awesome.
I would much prefer Russell Wilson but as long as its Manning + OT I would be okay with any developmental QB.

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If I had to bet here's how I'd see the QB frenzy shape out:

MIAMI- Matt Flynn

Cleveland-RG3 (Those 2 first this year would do it for me if I'm STL)

Washington- Manning/Hoyer or Rookie

Seattle- Ryan Tannehill

INDY- Of course Luck

NYJ- Sanchez only because they have no other choice

KC- Orton

MIN-Ponder/Jason Campbell

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[quote=44Deezel;890277]QBs are such a mystery. Even finding a guy who can stick around and be a career back-up seems ridiculously hard to do. See below for the last 12 years. Drafting high does seem to improve the odds, but there are also a lot of gems laken later (Brees, Rodgers, Brady of course, maybe Dalton). Shanny gets grief for whiffing the last couple of years, but whiffing is more common that hitting.

2011 - Newton, Locker, Gabbert, Ponder, [B]Dalton [/B]
2010 - Bradford, Tebow, Clausen, McCoy
2009 - Stafford, Sanchez, Freeman, Pat White
2008 - Ryan, Flacco, Brohm, Henne (Matt Flynn taken in the 7th)
2007 - Russell, Quinn, Kolb, BECK, (terrible year for QBs)
2006 - Young, Leinert, Cutler, Clemens, T. Jackson
2005 - Alex Smith, Rodgers, Campbell, Frye (Orton taken in the 4th, Cassell and Fitzpatrick in the 7th)
[B]2004 - Eli, Rivers, Big Ben, Losman, Schaub (great year for QBs. Where were we?!?!)[/B]
2003 - Palmer, Leftwich, Boller, RGIII the first
2002 - Carr, Ramsey, Harrington, McCown, Gerrard
2001 - Vick, Brees, Q. Carter
2000 - The Brady 6, Tom Brady[/quote]

Drafting 5th. Took Sean T. We could have had Big Ben

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[quote=30gut;890282]Cousins in particular or any later round developmental QB?

Manning + a 1st round OT + a later round QB (4th round or down) is awesome.
I would much prefer Russell Wilson but as long as its Manning + OT I would be okay with any developmental QB.[/quote]

Cousins in particular.

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[quote=SmootSmack;890289]Cousins in particular.[/quote]

I'd be more than ok with that.

I'd really like Manning/RG3(for cheap) but I already ate all my cake.

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[quote=SmootSmack;890289]Cousins in particular.[/quote]

I feel like the Redskins FO just decides to spin the wheel every week and obsess over whichever QB it lands on.

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[quote=mbedner3420;890291]I feel like the Redskins FO just decides to spin the wheel every week and obsess over whichever QB it lands on.[/quote]

Change Redskins FO to fan base and you're spot on

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[quote=SmootSmack;890207]How would you all feel about Manning and Cousins?[/quote]

Have a hard time believing Cousins is the young QB they have been waiting 3 years to get their hands on. Seems like settling to me and I don't want them to settle.