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[quote=RedskinRat;1059748]Was Richard Schmidt an NRA member?[/quote]

Haven't you heard? Anyone who commits any crime is automatically signed up for life as an NRA member. That's what the ladies on the news told me at least.

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Good point, however there's no such thing as an "assault rifle" or "assault weapon". It's not a real classification of guns, it's an anti-gun and media term they made up to scare people when talking about guns. See Giantone's posts as proof it works on people who know nothing about guns.

The "AR" in the "AR-15" rifiles you hear the media rant about even when a shotgun was used doesn't stand for "Assault Rifle". It's short for the original manufacturer of that type of gun, "[B]AR[/B]marlite", the division of the company that developed them. They sold the patents and name to Colt, so early ones were called Colt Armalite-15, 10, 70, etc. Since then, most rifles that even look like a true AR-15 get sold as AR-15s and those who know nothing about guns except from what CNN, Joe Biden and Stephen Colbert tell them get scared and shout "that's an assault rifle!" when they see a big gun.

The anti-gun crowd loves to paint responsible gun owners as stupid rednecks, while at the same time showing absolutely no education on the subject their talking about.

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[quote=Lotus;1059760]The time when armed citizens could resist government tyranny is gone. Now we must just trust, like it or not.[/quote]


That's not true. The Afghan rebels held off the Russians who had 10 times the weaponry that they did. The sheer amount of people would overwhelm any army base Sure, there would be high amounts of casualties. Only thing they could really do is nuke their own land, and who the hell is going to do that?

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[quote=NC_Skins;1059796]That's not true. The Afghan rebels held off the Russians who had 10 times the weaponry that they did. The sheer amount of people would overwhelm any army base Sure, there would be high amounts of casualties. Only thing they could really do is nuke their own land, and who the hell is going to do that?[/quote]

or one man can stop a column of tanks in Tienanmen Square.

Sorry Lotus, I think it's a bad plan to "just trust".

[QUOTE=Monkeydad;1059789]Good point, however there's no such thing as an "assault rifle" or "assault weapon". It's not a real classification of guns, it's an anti-gun and media term they made up to scare people when talking about guns. See Giantone's posts as proof it works on people who know nothing about guns.

The "AR" in the "AR-15" rifiles you hear the media rant about even when a shotgun was used doesn't stand for "Assault Rifle". It's short for the original manufacturer of that type of gun, "[B]AR[/B]marlite", the division of the company that developed them. They sold the patents and name to Colt, so early ones were called Colt Armalite-15, 10, 70, etc. Since then, most rifles that even look like a true AR-15 get sold as AR-15s and those who know nothing about guns except from what CNN, Joe Biden and Stephen Colbert tell them get scared and shout "that's an assault rifle!" when they see a big gun.

The anti-gun crowd loves to paint responsible gun owners as stupid rednecks, while at the same time showing absolutely no education on the subject their talking about.[/QUOTE]

I agree, I'm also aware of the assault rifle misnomer, however short of sticking quotes around the name on the image I was powerless.....

It was more bait for GiantOne than anything.

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[quote=RedskinRat;1059810]I agree, I'm also aware of the assault rifle misnomer, however short of sticking quotes around the name on the image I was powerless.....

[SIZE="5"] [B]It was more[/B] bait [B]for GiantOne than anything.[/B][/SIZE]

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As was my history lesson.

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The best thing about this thread is how many minds have been changed!

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[quote=Daseal;1059876]The best thing about this thread is how many minds have been changed![/quote]

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[quote=Monkeydad;1059812]As was my history lesson.[/quote]
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Pssst...

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[url=http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-921423]Guns Don’t Kill People: Do Crazed Liberals? - CNN iReport[/url]

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Your attempt to paint every criminal as an NRA member is laughable. You don't even appear to have any clue on what the NRA actually does.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1059796]That's not true. The Afghan rebels held off the Russians who had 10 times the weaponry that they did. The sheer amount of people would overwhelm any army base Sure, there would be high amounts of casualties. Only thing they could really do is nuke their own land, and who the hell is going to do that?[/quote]

Afghan rebels were pounded at first and only turned the tide when they got anti-aircraft and other weaponry (care of the USA).

Homeowners do not have these weapons. A government helicopter can come to your house, stay out of range of your small arms fire, and kill your whole family with a missile. A whole closet full of rifles is useless in this situation.

The idea of a citizen's militia successfully battling the government like in the late 18th century is obsolete.

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[quote=Lotus;1059954]The idea of a citizen's militia successfully battling the government like in the late 18th century is obsolete.[/quote]

I'd still like the option to defend my home.

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I like how they left out hand gun deaths. i'd also like to see the study on malpractice deaths, as that seems kinda high. just wondering how they define the term.

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[quote=RedskinRat;1060021]I'd still like the option to defend my home.[/quote]


Sitting in a movie theater and shooting some guy and his wife with a box of popcorn for texting is not defending your home .

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[quote]Your attempt to paint every criminal as an NRA member is laughable. You don't even appear to have any clue on what the NRA actually does.[/quote]



Sure I do , we all do .They create fear to sell more guns .

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[quote=Giantone;1060042]Sure I do , we all do .They create fear to sell more guns .[/quote]The only person this thread trying to spread fear is you. Demonizing gun owners as if they were all liberal democrat shooters. ;) The thought of people owning guns terrifies you, doesn't it?
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[quote=That Guy;1060039]I like how they left out hand gun deaths. i'd also like to see the study on malpractice deaths, as that seems kinda high. just wondering how they define the term.[/quote]Well, "assault weapons" certainly are citied as a major reason for gun control, so why not compare how many deaths "assault weapons" cause? Especially if valid self defence cases are lumped in with all deaths.

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[quote=Giantone;1060041]Sitting in a movie theater and shooting some guy and his wife with a box of popcorn for texting is not defending your home .[/quote]

Seriously, you're deranged.

You have no clue about anything firearms, or Constitution-related.



Your Giants' Dave Meggett proved you do not need a firearm to commit a crime, he choked a hooker with his bare hands and before that used his penis as a weapon to commit rape crimes.

[url=http://www.cbsnews.com/news/david-meggett-ex-nfl-star-sentenced-to-30-years-for-sexual-assault-burglary/]David Meggett, Ex-NFL Star, Sentenced to 30 years for Sexual Assault, Burglary - CBS News[/url]



Criminals will commit crimes with or without a gun. Banning them only makes the general public more vulnerable and unprotected.

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[quote=Giantone;1060042]Sure I do , we all do .They create fear to sell more guns .[/quote]

They only ones creating fear are you and the President and you're both clueless.

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[quote=HailGreen28;1060046]Well, "assault weapons" certainly are citied as a major reason for gun control, so why not compare how many deaths "assault weapons" cause? Especially if valid self defence cases are lumped in with all deaths.[/quote]

i'd still like to see their numbers and what they're citing.

[url=http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/crime/2012/12/gun_death_tally_every_american_gun_death_since_newtown_sandy_hook_shooting.html]Gun-death tally: Every American gun death since Newtown Sandy Hook shooting (INTERACTIVE).[/url]

actual recorded crowd sourced gun deaths are at 12,000 in 2013, and the CDC estimate is closer to 30,000, though a lot of those are termed as suicides.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1060091]They only ones creating fear are you and the President and you're both clueless.[/quote]


yeah right.:smashfreak:

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[quote=Monkeydad;1060090]Seriously, you're deranged.

You have no clue about anything firearms, or Constitution-related.



Your Giants' Dave Meggett proved you do not need a firearm to commit a crime, he choked a hooker with his bare hands and before that used his penis as a weapon to commit rape crimes.

[URL="http://www.cbsnews.com/news/david-meggett-ex-nfl-star-sentenced-to-30-years-for-sexual-assault-burglary/"]David Meggett, Ex-NFL Star, Sentenced to 30 years for Sexual Assault, Burglary - CBS News[/URL]



Criminals will commit crimes with or without a gun. Banning them only makes the general public more vulnerable and unprotected.[/quote]

NY.Giants don't have a effing thing to do with this nether do the Skins so grow up .whether D.Meggett ,Darren Sharper ,Fred Davis or Sean Taylor ,if you are found guilty you should do time .Your ignorance is astounding.

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[quote=Giantone;1060152]NY.Giants don't have a effing thing to do with this nether do the Skins so grow up .whether D.Meggett ,Darren Sharper ,Fred Davis or Sean Taylor ,if you are found guilty you should do time .Your ignorance is astounding.[/quote]Yeah, it's not like those guys have sex with underage girls, like Lawrence Taylor did. ;)

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[quote=That Guy;1060039]I like how they left out hand gun deaths. i'd also like to see the study on malpractice deaths, as that seems kinda high. just wondering how they define the term.[/quote]No telling just from that picture. But as I recall, the fatalities from "assault weapons" is ludicrously low. Yet those guns are regularly touted as reason for gun control.

[URL="http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/feb/20/joe-biden-buy-a-shotgun"]"I promise you, whoever's coming in is not going to," Biden said. "You don't need an AR-15 [assault rifle]. It's harder to aim. It's harder to use. And in fact, you don't need 30 rounds to protect yourself.

"Buy a shotgun. Buy a shotgun," he said.

The vice-president, who is known for sometimes telling long, personal stories in his public appearances, is pushing Obama's plan for curbing gun violence after the December school shooting massacre in Newtown, Connecticut.

But some of the proposals, including a ban on the sale of assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition clips, have run into stiff opposition from the influential US gun lobby and its advocates on Capitol Hill.
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I do find this quite ironic from the staunch "fiscal conservatives".

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