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RFKRat 12-30-2013 01:30 PM

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[quote=Lotus;1052134]Jim Schwartz may not be the best HC but he is a great DC. I would not mind if we brought him in as DC and switched to his favored 4-3.[/quote]

This team has enough issues in regards to attitude, laziness, cockiness, lack of discipline, goon shots, etc than to bring that pathetic clown anywhere near the team. This franchise is already a joke.

punch it in 12-30-2013 01:31 PM

[QUOTE=HailGreen28;1052138]well we never got a traditional 3-4 nose tackle. and seems like we're short on line backer and have good 4-3 de and dt prospects. I don't think the switch will be that difficult.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. I think most of the current d that we have would welcome it.

Chico23231 12-30-2013 01:32 PM

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[quote=Lotus;1052141]I understand some of your feeling. But I think switching to a 4-3 would be more painless than it was switching to a 3-4 previously because of our personnel. Rak and Kerrigan could play as hands-down DE's today. Cofield and Bowen could play DT. Although we'd have to work on our linebacking corps, we'd have a decent DL set.[/quote]

Very true, we also have held off on extensions with Riley and Rak and some depth which gives us alot of flexibility if we do switch. Im think its much easier to go back to 4-3 than in to a 3-4. If we go 4-3, we would have to add a DT.

mooby 12-30-2013 02:18 PM

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[quote=Lotus;1052141]I understand some of your feeling. But I think switching to a 4-3 would be more painless than it was switching to a 3-4 previously because of our personnel. Rak and Kerrigan could play as hands-down DE's today. Cofield and Bowen could play DT. Although we'd have to work on our linebacking corps, we'd have a decent DL set.[/quote]

I'm not opposed to switching back to the 4-3, but I do think it would take an adjustment. Both Rak and Kerrigan were 4-3 rushers before they came here, but both have been stand up 'backers since they got here. Cofield also came from a 4-3 in New York, so he's got the previous experience. Bowen might be the odd man out since he came from a 3-4 in Dallas though.

I think Riley would have an adjustment as well, if memory serves he played something similar to a 3-4 at LSU. I'm sure it's different because in a 3-4 he could always rely on Fletcher to take away some responsibility, whereas in a 4-3 he'd be the only mike on the field. I'm also unsure who we'd shift to outside backer in the event this does happen, maybe put Keenan Robinson on the outside (though this would stunt his development again). Rob Jackson could also play outside, but we might have to upgrade if those didn't work out.

As far as Schwartz goes, I don't know too much about him other than his failed stint in Detroit and his history as d-coordinator in Tennessee, but I remember them having decent defenses. I'm a fan of older coaches that know their place, the ones who aren't head coach material but are very comfortable running an offense or defense.

chewman 12-30-2013 02:43 PM

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As per Chris Russel, Haslett is staying for now. Hope it's long for long.

Chico23231 12-30-2013 02:48 PM

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Heard Haslett, McVay, Foerster and Morris all staying for now

Burney too.

BigHairedAristocrat 12-30-2013 02:50 PM

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Allen all but said Danny smith would get an interview. He'd be an interesting candidate for sure.

JGisLordOfTheRings 12-30-2013 02:50 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1052184]Heard Haslett, McVay, Foerster and Morris all staying for now

Burney too.[/quote]


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30gut 12-30-2013 06:59 PM

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We want to pick the right coach, the right leader for this franchise that can inspire this football team, that can lead this team and teach them the fundamentals that are so critical in the game, [B][I][U]who understands the value of time, because in the NFL right now time is really, really critical to manage. You don’t have much time in the offseason with the players. You don’t have much time during training camp with players. So to understand the value of that time[/U][/I][/B] is going to be important, and to have someone with some urgency to accomplish the goals that we’re looking for for this franchise.

I can't imagine anyone that would manage time better then a college coach with all their NCAA mandated time constraints and a coach that runs an up-tempo no huddle program would likely manage time better then anyone.

DynamiteRave 12-30-2013 07:02 PM

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DC NBC4 (local news) just named a short list of HCs that the Skins have reportedly been interested in:

Cowher
Gruden (Jay)
Mike Zimmer
Russ Grimm
Art Briles

punch it in 12-30-2013 07:21 PM

[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;1052272]DC NBC4 (local news) just named a short list of HCs that the Skins have reportedly been interested in:

Cowher
Gruden (Jay)
Mike Zimmer
Russ Grimm
Art Briles[/QUOTE]

I like Gruden and Zimmer. No Bevell?
I also like Chud. I know browns sucked but what else is new? I thought had them headed in the rite direction early on. I still like him.
Also i cannot believe Mike Smith still has a job.

ashvirtually 12-30-2013 07:25 PM

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[quote=Mechanix544;1051333]Number one, we do not NEED an established NFL head coach. We have a new quarterback that runs a unique style, so find a coach who will cater to that style and make it work with the core players on offense we currently have, and will sign this offseason. (RG3, Williams, Garcon, Reed, Morris, Hankerson are really the only ones who I believe are shoe ins for next season. Its more than half, and I'm sure we will keep at least one of our guards, so 7/11 is a good core). Revamp the defense as much as you can with the draft and free agency, but TRY to keep them relatively young. Keep both your ends, they make or break the secondary and are a top 5 pair in the NFL. Find high motor smart guys for special teams.

These are all things that are doable in one offseason. I believe there will be plenty of high quality coaches that will be jockeying for the job this offseason. Why? Main reasons below.

- Finally have plenty of young talent
- Have a very capable backup QB, or an additional 2nd round pick, whichever way you play it, it is a plus for the team
- The HC will get paid more than market value, you can count on that
- Have shown that they can win
- Have the RotY franchise QB to develop and win with
- Have a true number one receiver
- Have a top 5 Left Tackle, as well as a top 5 rusher in Morris
- Have a top 5 pair of defensive ends
- Would be coaching in the NFC East, not the best division in football right now
- Have an owner that will spend whatever is necessary to win games and actually cares about the team, not just the teams financials
- And the biggest reason, Snyder has shown he can give football people, not yes men, the keys to the ferrari that is the Redskins franchise.


Of course there will be criticism, but any good young coach that gets offered this job would be stupid to pass it up[/quote]Yes. To the [I]n[/I]th power, yes, I agree.

We need to go young and hungry. A relative unknown. Screw the retreads, guys with Superbowl wins/appearances or Conference Championship appearances, and what have you, from a decade or more ago.

We need someone who wants to prove what he can do, if given the same control Snyder gave to Shanahan. The only established big name I'm interested in coming here is Lovie Smith. The rest of the big names being bandied about around here and in the media can go fornicate themselves. The retreads haven't worked (and yes, I'm including Gibbs 2.0 in that, God love him).

Darrell Bevell, Kevin Sumlin, Jay Gruden and Greg Roman would be excellent choices.

Paintrain 12-30-2013 07:26 PM

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1052272]DC NBC4 (local news) just named a short list of HCs that the Skins have reportedly been interested in:

Cowher
Gruden (Jay)
Mike Zimmer
Russ Grimm
Art Briles[/quote]

I hope the list gets better than this.. No interest in Cowher or Grimm, faint interest in Gruden and Briles is a complete all in chips to the center of the table win big or lose big move. From this list, Zimmer would be my favorite.

The Goat 12-30-2013 08:05 PM

Re: Choose Your 2014 Redskins Head Coach (Volume 2)
 
[quote=DynamiteRave;1052272]DC NBC4 (local news) just named a short list of HCs that the Skins have reportedly been interested in:

Cowher
Gruden (Jay)
Mike Zimmer
Russ Grimm
Art Briles[/quote]

Honestly I like all of them. Would prefer Whisenhunt over Gruden or Grimm, but haven't heard anything about us looking at Whisenhunt.

Sounds like Obrien to Houston and Lovie to Tampa. I hope we move fast to lock up our guy.

HailGreen28 12-30-2013 08:15 PM

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Have A.J. Smith / Bruce Allen / Morocco Brown pick a hot assistant, not necessarily on a playoff team. Ex: Todd Bowles - Cards.

And if Snyder's stayed out of the football side of franchise operations, for the love of god please don't jump back in now, Danny!

SFREDSKIN 12-30-2013 08:18 PM

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Shaw is still the best prospect if he can be convinced (tough task), Bevell, Jay Gruden, Whisenhunt, Zimmer, Bowles, Roman are out there.

Lotus 12-30-2013 08:21 PM

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No to Briles. You can't have a guy have his first ever experience of the NFL being as a head coach. A HC needs some kind of NFL experience even he is at a college now.

Jayroc24 12-30-2013 08:22 PM

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My select group of interviewees would be Zimmer, Jay Gruden, Todd Bowles, Greg Williams, and Brad Childress.
I know most of my choices are not the most popular, just my opinion.

SkinzWin 12-30-2013 08:24 PM

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@Fsmoot21SeanT: I just spoke with Greg Williams and he is very interested in the Redskins HeadCoaching job.....I think Greg could help Redskins Nation...

SFREDSKIN 12-30-2013 08:28 PM

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[quote=SkinzWin;1052301]@Fsmoot21SeanT: I just spoke with Greg Williams and he is very interested in the Redskins HeadCoaching job.....I think Greg could help Redskins Nation...[/quote]

NO!! Don't hire this bounty clown.

DynamiteRave 12-30-2013 08:28 PM

Re: Choose Your 2014 Redskins Head Coach (Volume 2)
 
[quote=SkinzWin;1052301]@Fsmoot21SeanT: I just spoke with Greg Williams and he is very interested in the Redskins HeadCoaching job.....I think Greg could help Redskins Nation...[/quote]

I wouldn't mind having Gregg back. Just no more bountygate plz.

SkinzWin 12-30-2013 08:39 PM

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I would not be happy about g will coming back

Chico23231 12-30-2013 08:42 PM

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1052303]I wouldn't mind having Gregg back. Just no more bountygate plz.[/quote]

I wouldn't mind if he brings the bounty with him, just keep it on the low. Cash only transactions, first rule of bounty club, don't talk bout bounty club. Kill the head, the body dies; that's poetry we need on our d. Just get rid of haslett, big mistake if he stays.

Paintrain 12-30-2013 08:55 PM

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1052303]I wouldn't mind having Gregg back. Just no more bountygate plz.[/quote]

John Mara will dock us $5 million in cap space just for considering it.

mooby 12-30-2013 09:18 PM

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[quote=Paintrain;1052309]John Mara will dock us $5 million in cap space just for considering it.[/quote]

John Mara is probably drawing up paperwork as we speak. It will probably read like,"the Redskins are being penalized for one fan advocating that Gregg Williams keeps his next bounty program on the low. We must send a message that the injuring players in the spirit of the game will not be tolerated."

SFREDSKIN 12-30-2013 09:26 PM

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Question regarding our FO/GM position. My understanding is that Campbell and Brown will address the draft and FA and Allen will do contracts instead of getting promoted and selecting either Campbell or Brown as GM and Smith as a consultant. Will this work?

diehardskin2982 12-30-2013 09:29 PM

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Bruce Allen is the GM/ President. The buck stops with him. He said that they will use their input on all things but Bruce has the Final say.

skinsfaninok 12-30-2013 09:55 PM

[QUOTE=diehardskin2982;1052317]Bruce Allen is the GM/ President. The buck stops with him. He said that they will use their input on all things but Bruce has the Final say.[/QUOTE]

So I guess they won't bring Morocco in as GM?

skinsfaninok 12-30-2013 09:58 PM

[QUOTE=Paintrain;1052284]I hope the list gets better than this.. No interest in Cowher or Grimm, faint interest in Gruden and Briles is a complete all in chips to the center of the table win big or lose big move. From this list, Zimmer would be my favorite.[/QUOTE]

I agree, not to crazy w this , I'd like to see Bowles added but ESPN says he's interested in Cleveland

DynamiteRave 12-30-2013 10:01 PM

Re: Choose Your 2014 Redskins Head Coach (Volume 2)
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1052326]I agree, not to crazy w this , I'd like to see Bowles added but ESPN says he's interested in Cleveland[/quote]

lol if we end up with Briles I think this message board will collapse upon itself. I know people keep saying that's not going to happen, but I'm really, really worried.

TheMalcolmConnection 12-30-2013 10:12 PM

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If we get Briles , this would make me think that Snyder has his fingers in the pot again .

TheMalcolmConnection 12-30-2013 10:16 PM

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Would be OK as DC, NOT as HC.

skinsfaninok 12-30-2013 10:20 PM

[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;1052327]lol if we end up with Briles I think this message board will collapse upon itself. I know people keep saying that's not going to happen, but I'm really, really worried.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I'm not too crazy w briles

44Deezel 12-30-2013 10:24 PM

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1052328]If we get Briles , this would make me think that Snyder has his fingers in the pot again .[/quote]

[url=http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2013/12/30/nfl-black-monday-coaching-candidates-lions-browns-redskins-buccaneers-texans-vikings/4256653/?sf21162036=1]NFL coaching candidate pool deep in wake of Black Monday[/url]

Briles not on the list. Is anyone else even interested in him?

TheMalcolmConnection 12-30-2013 10:32 PM

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It's hard to tell right now since EVERY source seems to have a ton of different , yet unofficial , lists.

SFREDSKIN 12-30-2013 10:51 PM

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This guy could be a darkhorse and has roots in the DC area having been an assistant at Maryland and JMU.

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Franklin_%28American_football_coach%29]James Franklin (American football coach) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]

Paintrain 12-30-2013 11:10 PM

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1052328]If we get Briles , this would make me think that Snyder has his fingers in the pot again .[/quote]

IMO the only way Briles is pursued is as a Zorn like last resort. If we get turned down by every NFL coach we pursue I could see Allen and Snyder going after Briles. IF he were to come, big IF, he would have to win fast-like year one and win big-like 10 wins & division title or it will be a freaking disaster at the levels unseen before. Briles would have to come STRONG with a NFL laden staff of assistants.

punch it in 12-30-2013 11:25 PM

If Griff didnt go to Baylor, and there wasnt all this talk about DS catering to his "diva" qb, etc - would everyone be so against Briles?

Paintrain 12-30-2013 11:31 PM

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[quote=punch it in;1052341]If Griff didnt go to Baylor, and there wasnt all this talk about DS catering to his "diva" qb, etc - would everyone be so against Briles?[/quote]

Not as opposed (though there are many other reasons to be opposed) but then again he probably wouldn't be a candidate either. Don't hear his name discussed anywhere else, even Houston where he would make the most sense.

skinsfaninok 12-30-2013 11:31 PM

[QUOTE=punch it in;1052341]If Griff didnt go to Baylor, and there wasnt all this talk about DS catering to his "diva" qb, etc - would everyone be so against Briles?[/QUOTE]

Still wouldn't want em, I just don't think he's an NFL guy


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