Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=metalskins;1154707]Let's think about this logically though. What free agent quarterback would be available next year that is an upgrade from Cousins? I see absolutely nobody. Unless Bill Belichick did the unthinkable and decided to trade an aging Tom Brady (who doesn't appear to be aging by the way), who would the 'skins get? Would you see Dallas trading Romo to Washington? I doubt it. Sanchez to Washington? He couldn't beat out the no-name guy in Denver.

I'm sorry, but you don't have to have an Aaron Rodgers or a Tom Brady to win Super Bowls. Yes, having those guys makes it a heck of a lot easier to win it all, but look at the teams that have won the Super Bowl with less than spectacular quarterbacks. Heck, I don't think Eli Manning is an elite QB and he's won two Super Bowls.

Maybe it's a homer thing to say, but I think Cousins is as good as we can get right now. I think you stick with him for a few more years.[/quote]

totally agree, keep kirk cuh.

but cookie patterson out of uc stalingrad is looking real good. could snag the davey o'brien award.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=metalskins;1154707]Let's think about this logically though. What free agent quarterback would be available next year that is an upgrade from Cousins? I see absolutely nobody. Unless Bill Belichick did the unthinkable and decided to trade an aging Tom Brady (who doesn't appear to be aging by the way), who would the 'skins get? Would you see Dallas trading Romo to Washington? I doubt it. Sanchez to Washington? He couldn't beat out the no-name guy in Denver.

I'm sorry, but you don't have to have an Aaron Rodgers or a Tom Brady to win Super Bowls. Yes, having those guys makes it a heck of a lot easier to win it all, but look at the teams that have won the Super Bowl with less than spectacular quarterbacks. Heck, I don't think Eli Manning is an elite QB and he's won two Super Bowls.

Maybe it's a homer thing to say, but I think Cousins is as good as we can get right now. I think you stick with him for a few more years.[/quote]

When people ask me about this at work, the answer i give is that they would go forward with McCoy because you have him locked up under a LOW contract i believe for the next two years, which fits the mold for Scott M not wanting to spend big money that could affect building the rest of the team.

First let me clarify that I AM NOT SAYING that McCoy could do just as well as Cousins in this system, because i don't think anyone truly knows. Gruden was committed 100% to Cousins in the offseason so I don't think anyone was truly looking at Colt to see how good he was or wasn't. Chris Cooley during his preseason broadcasts was high on Colt and felt that McCoy could start for at least half a dozen teams for sure, and maybe another five or 6 have a chance to battle for the starting job.

So in this scenario Scott M decides to not pay Cousins, they let him walk after this season, and so next season you open the season with Colt McCoy as the day 1 starter. If he plays well and the skins do well, then they look like geniuses because they saved the big money to use to load up on other players. You wont have a money issue until its time for Colt to get a new deal. Obviously if Colt fails then you turn to Sudfield to see what you have in him. If he plays well, then you may have a solution for a while, until it comes contract time and then maybe it's rinse and repeat with whatever possible QB's you have on the roster at that time.

Say for example this works, i wonder if it would change how the league pays QB's. What i am getting at - if a team can get quality / solid play out of QB's who sign lower money contracts, then what is the need to pay a guy 25 - 30 million a season if a team is able to win, or go to a Superbowl with a guy who is only making 2 or 3 million? You could then use that money to load up on other talent...

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=punch it in;1154691]It is 90% play calling that is killing us in the red zone.[/quote]

Check yourself, they are going to complete a fade with a dude who hasn't practiced all summer before the end of the year!!!!!!!!

In all seriousness, I think McVay outsmarts himself sometimes.

Other times, like the read option against Detroit, the dude is brilliant.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=SolidSnake84;1154713]When people ask me about this at work, the answer i give is that they would go forward with McCoy because you have him locked up under a LOW contract i believe for the next two years, which fits the mold for Scott M not wanting to spend big money that could affect building the rest of the team.

First let me clarify that I AM NOT SAYING that McCoy could do just as well as Cousins in this system, because i don't think anyone truly knows. Gruden was committed 100% to Cousins in the offseason so I don't think anyone was truly looking at Colt to see how good he was or wasn't. Chris Cooley during his preseason broadcasts was high on Colt and felt that McCoy could start for at least half a dozen teams for sure, and maybe another five or 6 have a chance to battle for the starting job.

So in this scenario Scott M decides to not pay Cousins, they let him walk after this season, and so next season you open the season with Colt McCoy as the day 1 starter. If he plays well and the skins do well, then they look like geniuses because they saved the big money to use to load up on other players. You wont have a money issue until its time for Colt to get a new deal. Obviously if Colt fails then you turn to Sudfield to see what you have in him. If he plays well, then you may have a solution for a while, until it comes contract time and then maybe it's rinse and repeat with whatever possible QB's you have on the roster at that time.

Say for example this works, i wonder if it would change how the league pays QB's. What i am getting at - if a team can get quality / solid play out of QB's who sign lower money contracts, then what is the need to pay a guy 25 - 30 million a season if a team is able to win, or go to a Superbowl with a guy who is only making 2 or 3 million? You could then use that money to load up on other talent...[/quote]

I'd they go with McCoy. They might as well fire Jay Gruden and start looking for a new head coach. Just because McCoy is cheaper, doesn't make it a better situation. Especially with 70 million in cap we will have even in the offseason.

You build a team to win games. You don't just say "fuck it" Let's roll with our 2nd string journeyman this year.

That might be the dumbest thing I've ever seen. If I'm not sugar coating it. Be the laughing stock of the NFL to tag Kirk for 20 mil this year, just to let the guy who threw for 5k yards go, and run with McCoy because he's cheaper. Holy lawl.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[QUOTE=DYoungJelly;1154715]Check yourself, they are going to complete a fade with a dude who hasn't practiced all summer before the end of the year!!!!!!!!



In all seriousness, I think McVay outsmarts himself sometimes.



Other times, like the read option against Detroit, the dude is brilliant.[/QUOTE]



The never ending fade attempt reminds me of the toss sweep from a few years back. I want to say it was Zorn? There was the one season where we just never gave up on the toss sweep in short yardage situations, and never got the first down either. Teams would just blow it up for a loss.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=Bucket;1154716]I'd they go with McCoy. They might as well fire Jay Gruden and start looking for a new head coach. Just because McCoy is cheaper, doesn't make it a better situation. Especially with 70 million in cap we will have even in the offseason.

You build a team to win games. You don't just say "fuck it" Let's roll with our 2nd string journeyman this year.

That might be the dumbest thing I've ever seen. If I'm not sugar coating it. Be the laughing stock of the NFL to tag Kirk for 20 mil this year, just to let the guy who threw for 5k yards go, and run with McCoy because he's cheaper. Holy lawl.[/quote]

It is ridculous, that's why i wanted to try and clarify with my post that it is not my wish or me saying "it's a good idea", i just get asked alot at work being one of the only redskins fans what we will do at QB if we let Cousins go. That's why i'm saying that could be one possible option, run with McCoy while they try and figure out who their long-term guy is. I was just saying that if they win with McCoy, then the problem might appear to be solved for a while.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

If having a revolving door for inexpensive journeyman QB's works, then the Cleveland Browns would be Super Bowl Champions.

How did that work out in Houston over the last several seasons when the Texans wasted a dominating defense?

A capable and experienced QB is a must to win a title. If you have one, then you have no choice but to keep him and pay him the market rate for his services. It's hard for me to imagine that Kirk Cousins is playing to keep his job at this point. Instead, he is playing to determine the rate for his services going forward.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=SolidSnake84;1154713]When people ask me about this at work, the answer i give is that they would go forward with McCoy because you have him locked up under a LOW contract i believe for the next two years, which fits the mold for Scott M not wanting to spend big money that could affect building the rest of the team.

First let me clarify that I AM NOT SAYING that McCoy could do just as well as Cousins in this system, because i don't think anyone truly knows. Gruden was committed 100% to Cousins in the offseason so I don't think anyone was truly looking at Colt to see how good he was or wasn't. Chris Cooley during his preseason broadcasts was high on Colt and felt that McCoy could start for at least half a dozen teams for sure, and maybe another five or 6 have a chance to battle for the starting job.

So in this scenario Scott M decides to not pay Cousins, they let him walk after this season, and so next season you open the season with Colt McCoy as the day 1 starter. If he plays well and the skins do well, then they look like geniuses because they saved the big money to use to load up on other players. You wont have a money issue until its time for Colt to get a new deal. Obviously if Colt fails then you turn to Sudfield to see what you have in him. If he plays well, then you may have a solution for a while, until it comes contract time and then maybe it's rinse and repeat with whatever possible QB's you have on the roster at that time.

Say for example this works, i wonder if it would change how the league pays QB's. What i am getting at - if a team can get quality / solid play out of QB's who sign lower money contracts, then what is the need to pay a guy 25 - 30 million a season if a team is able to win, or go to a Superbowl with a guy who is only making 2 or 3 million? You could then use that money to load up on other talent...[/quote]

I'm gonna apologize in advance for this one SS. But I gotta.
[IMG]http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/4f/4f637c7041efa528d6c8fa85ffb757c0298ea3d84039787af73f713bd0b162e2.jpg[/IMG]

Imagine a world... Where average quarterbacks make elite player money!

You've just imagined reality. You can thank Osweiler and the Texans for that.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

It's been so long since we've had a QB worth paying it's like people don't know how to handle it. Letting Cousins walk would be ridiculous.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=SolidSnake84;1154719]It is ridculous, that's why i wanted to try and clarify with my post that it is not my wish or me saying "it's a good idea", i just get asked alot at work being one of the only redskins fans what we will do at QB if we let Cousins go. That's why i'm saying that could be one possible option, run with McCoy while they try and figure out who their long-term guy is. I was just saying that if they win with McCoy, then the problem might appear to be solved for a while.[/quote]

I would bet my house that if we went with McCoy we would be a 5-11, 6-10 team. His arm strength is horrid. He can't make across the field throws consistently. He's injury prone.

Behind the same Oline he has a 8% sack rate, compared to Kirk's 4%. So in a nutshell, the 12 sacks Kirk has taken this year would be more like 24 sacks in 8 games

There is just so much wrong with McCoy it's not even worth getting in to.

Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[QUOTE=MTK;1154722]It's been so long since we've had a QB worth paying it's like people don't know how to handle it. Letting Cousins walk would be ridiculous.[/QUOTE]



Some people realize his value, but they seem terrified about a few million dollar difference in paying him. That is a real head scratcher because what can you do with that few mill if you let KC walk? Sign another high price free agent(if one is available) that has no experience in this offense- or sign a journeyman for a lot less and use the extra money for some upgrade at ILB or DB? No thanks. With Brian Hoyer (for example) we have no chance of winning even if it allows to upgrade a position somewhere else. QB is too important.
Another option would be draft one I guess or go with Sudfeld - no thanks again. Not in the mood to start over.
The only option is that some stud, can't miss qb falls to us in the draft or some stud young free agent is available for us to pick up? Neither of those things is very likely to happen.
There are no better options than paying KC and adding a few pieces thru the draft/FA and keeping this TEAM together to grow.
Not one person, who is not on board with KC, (on here or in the media), has offered up any realistic scenario where we get better with KC gone next year. Because there aint one.

Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[QUOTE=SolidSnake84;1154719]It is ridculous, that's why i wanted to try and clarify with my post that it is not my wish or me saying "it's a good idea", i just get asked alot at work being one of the only redskins fans what we will do at QB if we let Cousins go. That's why i'm saying that could be one possible option, run with McCoy while they try and figure out who their long-term guy is. I was just saying that IF THEY WIN WITH MCCOY, then the problem might appear to be solved for a while.[/QUOTE]


That would be the only small problem with this scenario

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=SolidSnake84;1154719]It is ridculous, that's why i wanted to try and clarify with my post that it is not my wish or me saying "it's a good idea", i just get asked alot at work being one of the only redskins fans what we will do at QB if we let Cousins go. [B]That's why i'm saying that could be one possible option, run with McCoy while they try and figure out who their long-term guy is. I was just saying that if they win with McCoy, then the problem might appear to be solved for a while.[/quote]
[/B]

Why would you try and go back to figuring out who the long term guy is when we pretty much know who that guy is? He's just coming off a season where he broke and tied Redskin passing records in his first full year starting. Yeah he does throw stupid picks but so does Eli Manning. Smart organizations don't do what you're suggesting.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1154726][/B]

Why would you try and go back to figuring out who the long term guy is when we pretty much know who that guy is? He's just coming off a season where he broke and tied Redskin passing records in his first full year starting. Yeah he does throw stupid picks but so does Eli Manning. Smart organizations don't do what you're suggesting.[/quote]

I'm not suggesting they do it, i was just saying that was one possible idea. My idea was insane. I don't think it is a good suggestion at all, i was just saying....

And i have to sort of laugh at myself and the way this thread is going because we brought up Brian Hoyer again LOL. A few pages back, the debate was going on about Brian Hoyer and i made my now infamous quote about Kenny Britt saying that Case Keenum was a baller, and after that post, Keenum went on to throw 7 interceptions in 2 games...

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[QUOTE=SolidSnake84;1154727]I'm not suggesting they do it, i was just saying that was one possible idea. My idea was insane. I don't think it is a good suggestion at all, i was just saying....



And i have to sort of laugh at myself and the way this thread is going because we brought up Brian Hoyer again LOL. A few pages back, the debate was going on about Brian Hoyer and i made my now infamous quote about Kenny Britt saying that Case Keenum was a baller, and after that post, Keenum went on to throw 7 interceptions in 2 games...[/QUOTE]



It is one possible idea, but also one terrible idea.
Now McCoy is balling too. [emoji6]

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

I'd take simien from Denver that's the only guy I want if we don't keep Kirk.

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Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

So let me get this straight..there are some of you that actually prefer Colt over Kirk?? Do you realize that Kirk surrounded by an average team is on pace to break all time redskin passing records..he already has some of the records from last year! the biggest knock against Kirk seems to be his long ball because the rest of his game is top notch. for the record McCoy does not have the arm Kirk Has . At least Kirk can throw the ball long it just seems they never hook up but it keeps the D honest. unless We have to pay Cousins some crazy amount I for one think he has played his way into a nice contract . We need this position to be stable so we can focus on other needs..

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

Snake for the love of God, go away.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=Schneed10;1154833]Snake for the love of God, go away.[/quote]

Counterpoint: Snake, don't go away. If you left the ecosystem of the forums would go out of whack and this place would go dull with all manner of like-minded rational people agreeing on various subjects. Imagine this discussion happening every single day:

Person 1: Kirk is a decent quarterback. He will make mistakes, but his good plays will be enough to balance it out. Let's pay him above-average quarterback money long term so we can focus on other holes on the roster.

Person 2: I agree.

Person 3: I am in agreement as well.

Person 4: It seems we're all in agreement. Toodle-loo!

DAE see how dull and boring that is? Save us Snake! I come here for a mixture of solid discussion and entertainment. And you are a big part of that.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=SolidSnake84;1154727]I'm not suggesting they do it, i was just saying that was one possible idea. My idea was insane. I don't think it is a good suggestion at all, i was just saying....[/quote]

I'm more interested in what you believe should be done. Taking a position, owning it, and being prepared to defend it is an approach that seems to produce good discussions around here.

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Tell me if I'm missing something, but from what I understand we have more cap space than we've had for the past few years (16M this year, around 53 as of now for next year), so why are we so scared to pay KC? Do we really have a better (or even just slightly worse) option at a better price?

I mean this is not Madden, unless you have a Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodger (the real one not his twin brother playing for him this year) caliber guy, you don't just change QB and yyypppeee your team is better. It takes time for the new guy to get in rhythm with his teammates, for his teammates to get in rhythm with him, and for both sides to trust the other.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[QUOTE=FrenchSkin;1154838]Tell me if I'm missing something, but from what I understand we have more cap space than we've had for the past few years (16M this year, around 53 as of now for next year), so why are we so scared to pay KC? Do we really have a better (or even just slightly worse) option at a better price?



I mean this is not Madden, unless you have a Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodger (the real one not his twin brother playing for him this year) caliber guy, you don't just change QB and yyypppeee your team is better. It takes time for the new guy to get in rhythm with his teammates, for his teammates to get in rhythm with him, and for both sides to trust the other.[/QUOTE]


Cap won't be an issue, and I definitely agree that starting over at the most important position would be beyond silly and unnecessary.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

Way the season is going in Atlanta, Lil Shanny is gonna be a top coaching candidate. I think it was Keim or Mike Jones the other day said this....If we let Cousins hit free agency then he gonna go where Kyle is period.

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[quote=MTK;1154842]Cap won't be an issue, and I definitely agree that starting over at the most important position would be beyond silly and unnecessary.[/quote]

I was listening to Cooley and Kevin halfway mark show, and they agreed that the team should sign KC to a long term deal asap, because the more they wait the more they will have to pay. I was thinking the team might want to wait until the end of season, as a way to keep KC under pressure... But they got a point saying the more they wait the more they'll have to pay, don't they?

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=FrenchSkin;1154844]I was listening to Cooley and Kevin halfway mark show, and they agreed that the team should sign KC to a long term deal asap, because the more they wait the more they will have to pay. I was thinking the team might want to wait until the end of season, as a way to keep KC under pressure... But they got a point saying the more they wait the more they'll have to pay, don't they?[/quote]

You wait til the season is over to ensure he doesn't bomb the tough second half or have a catastrophic injury. IMO its better to wait with QB.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

Pretty sure under the tag he has to play out the season, they can't negotiate a new deal until the offseason.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[QUOTE=mooby;1154835]Counterpoint: Snake, don't go away. If you left the ecosystem of the forums would go out of whack and this place would go dull with all manner of like-minded rational people agreeing on various subjects. Imagine this discussion happening every single day:



Person 1: Kirk is a decent quarterback. He will make mistakes, but his good plays will be enough to balance it out. Let's pay him above-average quarterback money long term so we can focus on other holes on the roster.



Person 2: I agree.



Person 3: I am in agreement as well.



Person 4: It seems we're all in agreement. Toodle-loo!



DAE see how dull and boring that is? Save us Snake! I come here for a mixture of solid discussion and entertainment. And you are a big part of that.[/QUOTE]



I agree. Lol
Sometimes thoughts get lost in translation. Unless it is Schneed - there really isn't more than one way to read most of his posts. "You are a dumb asshole" is very straight forward". Lol.
I am not defending SS either. Just saying that I do not believe he thinks Colt is better than Cousins. I do not believe anyone does. Not on here anyway.
SS appears to be searching for a way that we can save 15 mill to bolster our D, and let a run of the mill qb like Hoyer or Colt hold the fort down until we find another Cousins. Problem is we have Cousins! We can still improve the rest of the team through the draft, and just good old fashioned continuity and familiarity. SS is going backwards instead of forwards. It is a habit that we have formed as Skins fans watching the organization do just that for 20 years. We have something building here. Let it grow!

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=punch it in;1154850]I agree. Lol
Sometimes thoughts get lost in translation. Unless it is Schneed - there really isn't more than one way to read most of his posts. "You are a dumb asshole" is very straight forward". Lol.
I am not defending SS either. Just saying that I do not believe he thinks Colt is better than Cousins. I do not believe anyone does. Not on here anyway.
SS appears to be searching for a way that we can save 15 mill to bolster our D, and let a run of the mill qb like Hoyer or Colt hold the fort down until we find another Cousins. Problem is we have Cousins! We can still improve the rest of the team through the draft, and just good old fashioned continuity and familiarity. SS is going backwards instead of forwards. [B]It is a habit that we have formed as Skins fans watching the organization do just that for 20 years. We have something building here. Let it grow![/B][/quote]

Yeah, it seems like we don't allow ourselves to consider our team a good team. Some mistakes aren't helping us do that, but we have one of the top offenses in the league right now, let's believe in this team, it will develop and become a really good team, the answer is there, not outside the team.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=MTK;1154847]Pretty sure under the tag he has to play out the season, they can't negotiate a new deal until the offseason.[/quote]

Correct. Can't begin negotiating until after the Super Bowl.

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On next year's cap, currently it looks like $47M in space and highly likely to create more by releasing DeAngelo Hall and Kory Lichtensteiger which would create another $7.7M in space.

We could afford to franchise Cousins again at $24M and still have $30M to play with. Cap is not a constraint.

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Man, hope we do something at DT in the draft. Slim pickings in FA: [url]http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/defensive-line/[/url]

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=punch it in;1154850]I agree. Lol
Sometimes thoughts get lost in translation. Unless it is Schneed - there really isn't more than one way to read most of his posts. "You are a dumb asshole" is very straight forward". Lol.
I am not defending SS either. Just saying that I do not believe he thinks Colt is better than Cousins. I do not believe anyone does. Not on here anyway.
SS appears to be searching for a way that we can save 15 mill to bolster our D, and let a run of the mill qb like Hoyer or Colt hold the fort down until we find another Cousins. Problem is we have Cousins! We can still improve the rest of the team through the draft, and just good old fashioned continuity and familiarity. SS is going backwards instead of forwards. It is a habit that we have formed as Skins fans watching the organization do just that for 20 years. We have something building here. Let it grow![/quote]

I do not think McCoy is better than cousins. Not in the least. The mike jones article said that the redskins have "options", and I felt McCoy was one of those options. I want cousins to stay but I do not think the skins want him here anymore. I am sorry if my posts haven't indicated well enough that I think cousins is the answer.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1154837]I'm more interested in what you believe should be done. Taking a position, owning it, and being prepared to defend it is an approach that seems to produce good discussions around here.[/quote]

I think that they should give Cousins what he is asking for. I realize that they cannot negotiate with him until after the season but we need to lock him up for the next 4 or 5 years.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=SolidSnake84;1154889]I think that they should give Cousins what he is asking for. I realize that they cannot negotiate with him until after the season but we need to lock him up for the next 4 or 5 years.[/quote]

I agree with you. I think he'll be a solid QB for us for years to come. Even if I didn't think so, I just don't see a viable alternative. The Skins should also keep drafting QB's because you never know when you might strike gold.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1154891]I agree with you. I think he'll be a solid QB for us for years to come. Even if I didn't think so, I just don't see a viable alternative. The Skins should also keep drafting QB's because you never know when you might strike gold.[/quote]

amen. that cocksucker was a 4th rd pick. draft away y'all.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

Really think that after the bye, hope that they the team can return to their winning ways.

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[quote=los panda;1154896]amen. that cocksucker was a 4th rd pick. draft away y'all.[/quote]

Whoa, watch it with all that "amen" language, we don't want people to think we're a bunch of jesus loving motherfuckers up in here.

Also just to contribute to the discussion I am in agreement that Kirk should be retained for several years at a reasonable price.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1154900]

Also just to contribute to the discussion I am in agreement that Kirk should be retained for several years at a reasonable price.[/QUOTE]


I agree also...and I say "Amen Brother!" [emoji6]


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[quote=kct1975;1154901]I agree also...and I say "Amen Brother!" [emoji6]


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Am*n. Please.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[QUOTE=SolidSnake84;1154888]I do not think McCoy is better than cousins. Not in the least. The mike jones article said that the redskins have "options", and I felt McCoy was one of those options. I want cousins to stay but I do not think the skins want him here anymore. I am sorry if my posts haven't indicated well enough that I think cousins is the answer.[/QUOTE]



I dont think you believe mccoy is better. I don't think the Skins want KC gone either.