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[quote=SunnySide;1253235]CDC, which I think is on the conservative side of accounting, lists 120,333 COVID deaths as of today.

[url]https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html[/url]

The death rate (percent) can be played around with. Some models project the number of people they think are infected but asymptomatic and never tested (leads to lower death rate). Some models only consider number of reported cases vs deaths but everyone knows there are more people infected/asymptomatic who had/have it but arent included in the reported cases number.[/quote]

[url]https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/cdc-says-covid-19-cases-u-s-may-be-10-n1232134[/url]

So if the CDC is saying infection rate is 10 times that has been tested, then the death rate for the folks ages 5-49, it’s same ball park as the flu. Sound bout right?

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1253360]Was talking to my boss tonight. I'm a paralegal. Don't love what I do, but I've been doing it for 10+ years now, and I work my ass off 99% of the time.

But this COVID just has me in a funk. My motivation is zero right now. I couldn't even think of a way to say why, it's just there. It's like an invisible cloud hanging over my head.

She said similar things.

This was a few hours ago and I still can't explain it. And I've been lucky that my life really hasn't changed that drastically. Have worked full time and have had every resource I need (minus Lysol). Can't imagine what other people that have been way more effected are going through. Hope y'all are all doing alright!![/quote]

Good to know I'm not alone here, I have zero motivation to do my work too. I sometimes feel like I put all my efforts into trying to concentrate on work instead of actually doing the work. I have been working from home since about 1 year before the pandemic started and I had no issues with motivations, until about 2 months ago. It's a strange feeling, I wondered if it's because we now have less stimulation? Being stuck at home for a while without any real activities is starting to take a toll on me. I'm lucky I already have a small gym in my basement but even it isn't enough for me.

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There are days when I struggle to get much done with work. I try to get outside every day for a walk or jog. Sometimes I just hop in the car and go for a drive and crank up some good music. Nobody is alone in this all of our lives have changed in some way.

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I have a routine that everyday after work i go to the local park...walk the dog, exercise and socialize...sometimes fish. It’s rare I miss a day...being outside everyday 365 is a must, clears the head and just resets me from an office/home office environment.

I actually miss the office and the word I got last week is don’t expect to come in this year. Kinda sucks

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[quote=Chico23231;1253363][url]https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/cdc-says-covid-19-cases-u-s-may-be-10-n1232134[/url]

So if the CDC is saying infection rate is 10 times that has been tested, then the death rate for the folks ages 5-49, it’s same ball park as the flu. Sound bout right?[/quote]

There are a lot variables there such as who has died but wasn't attributed to COVID ie deaths at home etc. But even if it is people freak out about flu. They get shots every year, quarantine themselves when sick and avoid those with it but for some reason we are seeing the exact opposite response to this despite not having a vaccine. Is it coronafatigue? Fear of the unknown? Conflicting messages? Public health becoming political when it shouldn't?

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[quote=Chico23231;1253366]I have a routine that everyday after work i go to the local park...walk the dog, exercise and socialize...sometimes fish. It’s rare I miss a day...being outside everyday 365 is a must, clears the head and just resets me from an office/home office environment.

I actually miss the office and the word I got last week is don’t expect to come in this year. Kinda sucks[/quote]

This is what I need to get into, a routine. Finally got the dumbbells I ordered way back in March and just ordered some workout cables that got here a couple days ago. Main thing I need to do is wake up the same time every day, at least during the week, and set a time I'm going to exercise. My sleep pattern is still so messed up now.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1253368]There are a lot variables there such as who has died but wasn't attributed to COVID ie deaths at home etc. But even if it is people freak out about flu. They get shots every year, quarantine themselves when sick and avoid those with it but for some reason we are seeing the exact opposite response to this despite not having a vaccine. Is it coronafatigue? Fear of the unknown? Conflicting messages? Public health becoming political when it shouldn't?[/quote]
It doesn't matter what the variables are. The point is this virus is no more dangerous than the flu. For the record, flu shots do not stop people from catching the flu, and dying from it. The globalists know that you're stupid and will believe anything their Marxist media tell you. All they have to do is bring out some hack claiming to be an expert to regurgitate whatever they want you to believe and you will believe it. We will revisit this later down the road. When it's all said and done I will be proven right. This whole thing is a hoax. The death toll has been inflated. If you walk around with or without a mask you'll be just fine. When we open up the entire country we will be just fine. The only purpose for these lockdowns serve are to destroy the American economy and Donald Trump. It has nothing to do with saving lives.

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[quote=sunnyside;1252232]100,103[/quote]

128,557

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[quote=SunnySide;1253459]128,557[/quote]

maybe not..................


[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=28&v=Tw9Ci2PZKZg&feature=emb_logo[/url]

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I read into how the counts are done. What she is referring to is a preliminary count done at the time of death. Then the death certificate is sent to the cdc where they bet it to see if it should count for the official total.

Pretty sure I posted articles on this a while back in this thread.

The numbers I post are the final count totals from the cdc or world count not the preliminary ones.

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Vet not bet

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Southwest is practically giving away flights at this point. Booked 2 separate trips for the price that I usually get 1 on a good year.

1 is to see a buddy I haven't seen in 10 years and 1 is to surprise my dad for his birthday. Haven't seen my dad on his birthday since I moved to San Diego in 2003.

Both are 100% worth the risks. Gotta live.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1254659]Southwest is practically giving away flights at this point. Booked 2 separate trips for the price that I usually get 1 on a good year.

1 is to see a buddy I haven't seen in 10 years and 1 is to surprise my dad for his birthday. Haven't seen my dad on his birthday since I moved to San Diego in 2003.

Both are 100% worth the risks. Gotta live.[/quote]

I flew back out to SD about a month ago. Rough flight. Everyone packed together, Frontier didn't even try to spread people out. Lady next to me was 200 lbs, snored the entire flight and her mask fell down over her chin.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1254662]I flew back out to SD about a month ago. Rough flight. Everyone packed together, Frontier didn't even try to spread people out. Lady next to me was 200 lbs, snored the entire flight and her mask fell down over her chin.[/quote]

I think Southwest has announced no middle seats thru September 30th. That will cover my 1st trip.

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[URL="https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/30-year-man-who-thought-coronavirus-was-hoax-dies-after-attending-covid-party-texas-doctor/"]30-year-old man who thought coronavirus was hoax dies after attending ‘COVID party’: Texas doctor[/URL]

:doh:

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California shutting back down again.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1254992]California shutting back down again.[/quote]

So is Virginia. An announcement will be made tomorrow at 2pm, Virginia is going back to Phase 1, according to sources from the Governor's office.

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Really am sick and tired of waiting this up. And want the virus to end. But it will get to a point there that will have the mask being mandatory!

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Get back in school now

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[URL="https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/14/us/arizona-teachers-coronavirus-survivors/index.html"]3 Arizona teachers caught coronavirus but only 2 survived. This is what they want you to know[/URL]

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Although COVID-19 transmission rates nationwide among children have appeared to remain relatively low, more than 300 children at Texas child care centers have tested positive, and the numbers are rising quickly.

As of Tuesday, there were 950 reported positive cases of COVID-19 — 307 children and 643 staff members — at 668 child care locations. Statewide, 12,207 licensed child care operations are open, and total reported coronavirus cases have risen from 59 cases in mid-May and 576 on June 23.
[url]https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/01/texas-day-care-coronavirus-cases-rising/[/url]

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My neighbor and I talked about this yesterday. They are not sending their incoming HS sophmore back until there is a vaccine. I told her I am going to wait to see what August looks like before I really decide.

I really dont know what to do. Good thing is I have about 45 days until a decision has to be made. But if schools dont open ... impossible for parents to get a normal schedule going. More work from home, spending 3 hours a day helping the 8 year old do online learning.

MD just reported 733 new cases in one day. The most since early June. So the numbers are going the wrong. Hopefully its just a bubble from the protests/4th of July and the numbers go back down in a few weeks. But that requires masks and social distancing.

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The more testing become available the better the chances of the numbers going up we all knew that . My question is when the child is at school how will you know if they get sick it's corona? The first two months of any school year kids get the sickest ..being flu , colds or allergies, etc.

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Just got done watching Governor Northam here regarding VA.

Hampton Roads area is getting bad case wise, but the rest of the state is actually trending down and doing very well. So he is going to make tougher enforcement and rules regarding Hampton Roads area / beaches, etc.. They are not moving them back to Phase 1 or 2 like was suggested.

He also said regarding school that he was going to leave it up to the individual school districts to decide on whether or not to resume classes in the fall, or make the decision to go to all-online.

Overall VA is doing well and has been avoiding so far the large spikes seen in California, Florida, and TX.

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[url]https://www.cbsnews.com/news/moderna-coronavirus-vaccine-ready-for-final-testing-us/[/url]

Moderna's coronavirus vaccine ready to advance to final phase of testing


Wow great news. Big-league

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[quote=Chico23231;1255196][url]https://www.cbsnews.com/news/moderna-coronavirus-vaccine-ready-for-final-testing-us/[/url]

Moderna's coronavirus vaccine ready to advance to final phase of testing


Wow great news. Big-league[/quote]

Please lord let this work I need some normal life back already

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[quote=MTK;1255208]Please lord let this work I need some normal life back already[/quote]

It’s been a shitty fuckin summer...the country could use some good news.

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[quote=MTK;1255208]Please lord let this work I need some normal life back already[/quote]

amen but two questions

.............1) How much will it cost?

..............2) can they produce enough for everyone?

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[quote=Giantone;1255229]amen but two questions

.............1) How much will it cost?

..............2) can they produce enough for everyone?[/quote]

One more question - is it safe? The fact that a lot of pharmaceuticals are going at it really fast makes me nervous. I spent a good time researching on pharmaceutical system (for my MBA and my entertainment) in the last 2 years and one of the most common things I have read is the lengthy progress of developing a drug or vaccine, it takes time to verify its efficacy and side effects. It seems like we are skipping some of the steps in the process of developing although I must admit I haven't kept up with the COVID vaccine developments lately. I know a few companies developed AI system where it will help scientists to figure out efficacy and side effects much faster than usual however the AI system is still in infant stage. I probably would wait until 2nd or 3rd round of vaccines, unless the company who develops the vaccine is able to show its efficacy and little to no side effects (or at least not significant).

To give you guys an analogy, we all know it takes months to build a brand new house. All of sudden, a random reason comes up that forces America to build brand new house within a week. In that case, we all know the quality of the house is likely to not be good as the house that builders had adequate time to build.

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Something to brighten the day!


[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/14/need-some-good-news-about-covid-19-here-are-six-reasons-optimism/[/url]

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The data hospitals collect on coronavirus patients will now be rerouted to the Trump administration instead of first being sent to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta, according to reports.

Starting Wednesday, hospitals have been instructed to bypass the CDC and send daily patient information directly to a central database operated by the Department of Health and Human Services in Washington, D.C.

In an op-ed published Tuesday in the Washington Post, four former CDC directors – who served during both Republican and Democratic administrations – accused President Trump and top coronavirus task force officials of politicizing scientific data released by the national public health institute.

"We cannot recall over our collective tenure a single time when political pressure led to a change in the interpretation of scientific evidence," they wrote, claiming public health experts now "face two opponents: covid-19, but also political leaders and others attempting to undermine" the CDC.

[url]https://www.foxnews.com/us/hospital-coronavirus-data-cdc-trump-washington-dc-health-human-services[/url]

I saw this rumored but wanted to wait to see if it was true.

I will keep my political commentary to "wow" and "surprised they didnt wait until Friday afternoon to release"

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[quote=GridIron26;1255235]One more question - is it safe? The fact that a lot of pharmaceuticals are going at it really fast makes me nervous. I spent a good time researching on pharmaceutical system (for my MBA and my entertainment) in the last 2 years and one of the most common things I have read is the lengthy progress of developing a drug or vaccine, it takes time to verify its efficacy and side effects. It seems like we are skipping some of the steps in the process of developing although I must admit I haven't kept up with the COVID vaccine developments lately. I know a few companies developed AI system where it will help scientists to figure out efficacy and side effects much faster than usual however the AI system is still in infant stage. I probably would wait until 2nd or 3rd round of vaccines, unless the company who develops the vaccine is able to show its efficacy and little to no side effects (or at least not significant).

To give you guys an analogy, we all know it takes months to build a brand new house. All of sudden, a random reason comes up that forces America to build brand new house within a week. In that case, we all know the quality of the house is likely to not be good as the house that builders had adequate time to build.[/quote]

I too have done lots of research on the subject. Trying to keep stuff in layman's terms here as much as possible, the "fast track" status that these vaccines are getting doesn't mean they are side-stepping patient safety or testing data. The "fast-track" refers to bypassing all of the red tape / legal mumbo jumbo. Dr. Fauci has said several times that the vaccines that the NIH are partnering with to have developed will not in any way undermine the quality of research or patient health & safety.

There are 4 vaccines that are going to start being produced in mass by the end of next month. 2 of them will have already began phase 3 trials by then. The idea is that when the Phase 3 trials are over, they will hopefully gain FDA approval shortly thereafter and with the gov't already having around 100 million doses by that point, they will begin to go out by December to the most at-risk / vulnerable people - think frontline workers, police, nurses, etc...

The rest of us / the average Joe, will be able to get them hopefully by January / February of 2021. I believe it said that by the end of 2021, Each company that is producing vaccines will have around 300 million doses of each...

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[IMG]https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2020/07/1470/828/refrigerated-truck-Texas-Getty-Images.jpg?ve=1&tl=1[/IMG]

Texas reported an all-time high of single-day deaths Thursday with 129 people dead, bringing the total to 3,561. The state recorded 10,291 new cases of the virus, bringing the total to 292,656.

Reuters reported that San Antonio and Bexar County each received five refrigerated trailers to store up to 180 bodies as some hospital morgues and funeral homes have reached capacity.

[url]https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-arizona-refrigerated-trucks-morgues-coronavirus-deaths[/url]

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Things you miss that you took for granted?

I use to go to Target and/or Ralphs (grocery store) every week. Have not been to either one since I believe February but definitely not since March.

Now I go to a Smart and Final off the beaten path. It's a big store and never seems to have more than 15-20 people in it so everyone has their own space.

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I really miss live music and bar hopping. Day drinking is the best. Home and in bed early, help minimize the hangover.

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[quote=MTK;1255862]I really miss live music and bar hopping. Day drinking is the best. Home and in bed early, help minimize the hangover.[/quote]

If you're 35+ you shouldn't even be allowed to drink past 10 p.m. Day drinking is far superior. And the older you get the more true it gets. Night drinking leads to the next day being wasted for me.

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Good news out of Oxford regarding vaccine trials.

[url]https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-vaccine-oxford-trial-results-extremely-encouraging/[/url]

Sounds like some other trials are making progress too.

Fingers crossed.

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Howard County schools staying 100% virtual for Fall semester.

They sent parents a proposed alternating schedule of having groups of kids come on campus. I dont know how well it was received but we personally were going to opt out. All the parents in my kids circle of besties also were going to opt out.

The struggle continues.

Tough balance -- you dont want to have your kid exposed but you want them to have a normal childhood, education, sports, making friends, dealing with lifes little lessons good and bad.

[url]https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2020/07/16/howard-county-public-schools-reopening-coronavirus-pandemic-in-maryland/[/url]

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1255875]If you're 35+ you shouldn't even be allowed to drink past 10 p.m. Day drinking is far superior. And the older you get the more true it gets. Night drinking leads to the next day being wasted for me.[/quote]

Absolutely. The second I hit around 35, if I have any type of booze past like 10PM I sleep and feel like shit the next day. Can day drink for hours and feel absolutely awesome. My favorite weekend activity: hit up some breweries noon to three or so, come home, take nap, have dinner and a couple beers, early bedtime.

Old people livin' ftw.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1256009]Absolutely. The second I hit around 35, if I have any type of booze past like 10PM I sleep and feel like shit the next day. Can day drink for hours and feel absolutely awesome. My favorite weekend activity: hit up some breweries noon to three or so, come home, take nap, have dinner and a couple beers, early bedtime.

Old people livin' ftw.[/quote]

I wish I could pull this off. Feels like Saturdays is another workday sometime with so much to do around the house. I usually try to stop around 3-4 and clean up for a happy hour like Saturday. Brewery 4-7 then dinner spot

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[quote=SunnySide;1256000]Howard County schools staying 100% virtual for Fall semester.

They sent parents a proposed alternating schedule of having groups of kids come on campus. I dont know how well it was received but we personally were going to opt out. All the parents in my kids circle of besties also were going to opt out.

The struggle continues.

Tough balance -- you dont want to have your kid exposed but you want them to have a normal childhood, education, sports, making friends, dealing with lifes little lessons good and bad.

[url]https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2020/07/16/howard-county-public-schools-reopening-coronavirus-pandemic-in-maryland/[/url][/quote]

My niece was born in February. We just had a conversation on Sunday with my bro-in law, if she would be able to attend school or have a normal childhood, like you just mentioned. There is a lot of concern from people about that. I think schools will never be what they were before. It will be people opting for true homeschool, or states & counties going to all-distance learning for good. You may hear about the odd county here and there that has traditional in-class schooling, but i do believe that is a thing of the past now. I do believe all online school is how we go from now on.

I wonder though, what will happen to all of the schools that don't end up being needed again? I wonder if some schools will get remodeled into apartment buildings or care facilities, etc.....?