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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1357420]I figured hes a former coach its close enough lol[/QUOTE]


Yeah. Agreed. Unless we make a twitter beef thread? [emoji848]

It is amazing. Lol

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Back to the topic at hand. We've had a shit owner make decisions on coaches and QBs for the majority of the past 25 years. I'm pretty sure Peters, Harris, and company will make a better decision at HC, and we should give them the benefit of the doubt on whoever they select.

That said, it seems that Ben Johnson is the favorite to get the HC job.

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RG3 chasing a story for podcast clout is pathetic.
No one gives a fuck about you Robert.

The real story is Jay and Capri Bibbs banging the same chick!
Did they know they were stirring each others porridge?

[url]https://blacksportsonline.com/2020/07/rumors-jay-gruden-allegedly-benched-ex-redskins-rb-kapri-bibbs-because-they-were-sleeping-with-same-receptionist-that-led-to-alex-smith-almost-having-his-leg-amputated/[/url]

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RG3 looks like a serious dope in this beef, give it up dude you stunk without the Shanahan read option offense

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RG3 is a fucking bitch. I wish we would have never drafted that narcissistic loser.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1357428]RG3 looks like a serious dope in this beef, give it up dude you stunk without the Shanahan read option offense[/QUOTE]


Yeah. Gruden isn’t exactly a fond memory either though. I find the whole thing hilariously entertaining.

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[quote=mooby;1357411]Yeah his stock is way down with that blowout last week. Stocks rise and fall by the week. If the Lions look like ass on offense in the next week or two Ben Johnson's stock will go down too.[/quote]

Stocks may rise and fall by the week with fans, but the people doing the hiring look big picture

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[quote=MTK;1357437]Stocks may rise and fall by the week with fans, but the people doing the hiring look big picture[/quote]

I ain't saying his stock goes down if they don't put 30 on the board, but does his stock go down if the offense gets completely shut down - 2005 Mark Brunell against Tampa Bay style? Maybe.

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The biggest decision could be Ben Johnson vs Mike MacDonald for HC. You pass on a guy because he coaches defense vs offense…that type of thinking could put our franchise back more than who you draft 2nd

You have to be a leader of men

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RG is such a bitch. How can anyone stand that guy for more than 10 minutes? He is so damn annoying. Ever since he came out w/ his stupid ass tee shirt for a pre season game I have disliked that guy.. Operation Patience?? Who does crap like that? Should have never drafted that punk.

But anyways MacDonald has that Ravens D playing great. I'd love for that guy to be our coach.

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[quote=Chico23231;1357479]The biggest decision could be Ben Johnson vs Mike MacDonald for HC. You pass on a guy because he coaches defense vs offense…that type of thinking could put our franchise back more than who you draft 2nd

You have to be a leader of men[/quote]

I could not agree More !!!

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[quote=Chico23231;1357479]The biggest decision could be Ben Johnson vs Mike MacDonald for HC. You pass on a guy because he coaches defense vs offense…that type of thinking could put our franchise back more than who you draft 2nd

You have to be a leader of men[/quote]

Big Mac is the answer. The whole world coaches offense. It's easy to find an OC. A dime a dozen.

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I am hoping for Mike MacDonald, but I trust this ownership group and Peters to make the call. Of course, there are so many intangibles that won't reveal themselves until 2 seasons in...

I just want the deal done (except I will wait for MacDonald LOL)

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[QUOTE=MTK;1357437]Stocks may rise and fall by the week with fans, but the people doing the hiring look big picture[/QUOTE]


Exactly. If careers were based on one bad game every coach and player would suck. Even Gibbs would have been shit canned after 83.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1357479]The biggest decision could be Ben Johnson vs Mike MacDonald for HC. You pass on a guy because he coaches defense vs offense…that type of thinking could put our franchise back more than who you draft 2nd

You have to be a leader of men[/QUOTE]


Well unfolding your arms one time and not sleeping during games is our bar.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1357490]I am hoping for Mike MacDonald, but I trust this ownership group and Peters to make the call. Of course, there are so many intangibles that won't reveal themselves until 2 seasons in...

I just want the deal done (except I will wait for MacDonald LOL)[/quote]

He is certainly making quite the name for himself shutting down all these hot names at offensive coordinator.

My question is - if we hire him does he still run the defense and call plays? Or does he find the next Mike Macdonald to be his coordinator?

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You have to bear in mind that McDonald has a great defensive roster, disappointed that we didn't go for Roquan Smith or the safety, but obviously All Pros that don't have position flex at OT aren't of any real use. Not that I am bitter at all.

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1357517]You have to bear in mind that McDonald has a great defensive roster, disappointed that we didn't go for Roquan Smith or the safety, but obviously All Pros that don't have position flex at OT aren't of any real use. Not that I am bitter at all.[/quote]

He also did it in Michigan and Baltimore before that. If we would have been our DC when Montez was here, he would had that D playing instead of underachieving. He’s ready to be a HC and I hope he’s the one picked.

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Frankly, I'm not overly fussed about a D or an O coach being HC, I'm most concerned that he's exhibited the skills to turn a team into champions. Whether a great OC or DC, it's not the ability to build a great O or D, it's about the whole team. They're not going to interview any of these guys based purely on how good a scheme they have put together in recent years, that's just one factor. Did they get the best out of their players? How? What's their plan to help the GM build a strong, sustainable roster plan? How did they handle adversity? Star player ego's? and so forth.

Yes being a great OC or DC is of course important in lining up a candidate, but the job is so much more.

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[quote=MTK;1357437]Stocks may rise and fall by the week with fans, but the people doing the hiring look big picture[/quote]

Exactly. One game isn't going to stop an owner/GM from pulling the trigger on a HC job offer.

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[quote=mooby;1357516]He is certainly making quite the name for himself shutting down all these hot names at offensive coordinator.

My question is - if we hire him does he still run the defense and call plays? Or does he find the next Mike Macdonald to be his coordinator?[/quote]

That is my concern also .. If we are hiring Johnson because of his performance as a OC why would we not let him be the HC/OC ?? To do otherwise who will be our OC ?

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[quote=rocnrik;1357532]That is my concern also .. If we are hiring Johnson because of his performance as a OC why would we not let him be the HC/OC ?? To do otherwise who will be our OC ?[/quote]

A first-time HC should not be HC/OC. Being the Head Coach has a different skill set, but he should bring in an OC that he trusts.

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[quote=Chico23231;1357479]The biggest decision could be Ben Johnson vs Mike MacDonald for HC. You pass on a guy because he coaches defense vs offense…that type of thinking could put our franchise back more than who you draft 2nd

You have to be a leader of men[/quote]

I like the idea of a John Harbaugh/Dan Campbell type both very different styles but great leaders.

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1357517]You have to bear in mind that McDonald has a great defensive roster, disappointed that we didn't go for Roquan Smith or the safety, but obviously All Pros that don't have position flex at OT aren't of any real use. Not that I am bitter at all.[/quote]

Even if we had drafted Kyle Hamilton we would've fucked it up like we did with Kam Curl.

Gotta wonder how much Chris Harris contributed to Curl's success - Harris left before last year and our secondary went back to being dogshit again. I think we led the league in giving up chunk plays.

Anyways that's what we have Adam Peters for - to identify where we can get players like Roquan Smith and Kyle Hamilton from - and why we need a good coaching staff that can develop them and maximize their succcess.

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May have been mentioned here but Eric B also interviewed for the HC position.


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[quote=skinsfaninok;1357573]May have been mentioned here but Eric B also interviewed for the HC position.


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Rooney rule checked off, great job Eric

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^ Agreed

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I honestly don't have any strong preferences, just get the best guy for the job. I trust AP will do that.

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[quote=MTK;1357586]I honestly don't have any strong preferences, just get the best guy for the job. I trust AP will do that.[/quote]

Even though I'm leaning toward MacDonald, I'm with you as I will be happy with whoever AP chooses.

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If they hire Dan Quinn I'm all in, I trust the new Front office

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[QUOTE=MTK;1357586]I honestly don't have any strong preferences, just get the best guy for the job. I trust AP will do that.[/QUOTE]


Yes, this is the new thing we will have to get used to . . . trusting the GM to make good decisions. Funny how traumatized we all are from the Dan era — I find myself doubting the Ben Johnson prospect mostly because he’s the shiny new expensive thing that everyone’s talking about, exactly what Snyder was always attracted to (and usually couldn’t get).

Yes, there’s the question of whether the boy genius OC (whoever) has what it takes to be HC, and then who runs the O. But is there some chance Peters and Harris don’t get this? Hell no


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If The Lions and Ben Johnson beat the 49ers next weekend, then I’m all in on the Johnson bandwagon.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1357591]If they hire Dan Quinn I'm all in, I trust the new Front office[/quote]

Same here, while I don't think Quinn will be the guy, if he was I'd trust that Peters knows what he's doing. Plus Quinn is very highly regarded as a leader and defensive mind, can't hang that SB loss on him forever.

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[quote=mredskins;1357577]Rooney rule checked off, great job Eric[/quote]

They already interviewed Raheem Morris. Tongue in check comment aside Peters is going to be methodical, which I like, he is not going to let someone in house slip away without interviewing them.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1357591]If they hire Dan Quinn I'm all in, I trust the new Front office[/quote]

I'm looking forward to being "all in" for the first time in a while.
Ready to start buying gear again and traveling to games.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1357598]They already interviewed Raheem Morris. Tongue in check comment aside Peters is going to be methodical, which I like, he is not going to let someone in house slip away without interviewing them.[/quote]

true but the Rooney rule specifically says: person to be interview must be a minority a little person and have a bowling ball head size

Raheem only checked one of those boxes

Eric crushed it!

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[quote=mredskins;1357604]true but the Rooney rule specifically says: person to be interview must be a minority a little person and have a bowling ball head size

Raheem only checked one of those boxes

Eric crushed it![/quote]

He is a bit Uncle Fester-ish

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In the next year or three, Raheem is going to be a great catch for someone as HC. His first stint was long ago, and anyway, that’s how you learn this business. To see him only as Rooney fodder way underestimates him.


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Certainly doesn't hurt to interview EB on the way out. Pick his brain about the players, plus it does him a solid by getting his name out there.

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OMG - Rivera is interviewing for the Eagles DC position. Please hire him. And Del Rio while you’re at it.


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