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Alvin Walton 01-07-2011 07:58 PM

Re: Graham Gano has to Go !!
 
Good lord, its frickin January and we're not in the playoffs and we have a 17 page thread about Gano.
You guys have no idea who our kicker will be next year.
I doubt Shanahan does either.

tryfuhl 01-07-2011 08:26 PM

Re: Graham Gano has to Go !!
 
[quote=tygarcia;775905]I really think that with some competition he would preveil. I really think if we let him go, he goes somewhere and becomes an probowler i.e. David Akers[/quote]

The Akers argument is getting kind of old. We've released plenty of kickers that didn't go on to have a career like him. I'm not saying it wouldn't/couldn't happen but it's sure as hell not certain.

SmootSmack 01-07-2011 09:14 PM

Re: Graham Gano has to Go !!
 
[quote=tryfuhl;776183]The Akers argument is getting kind of old. We've released plenty of kickers that didn't go on to have a career like him. I'm not saying it wouldn't/couldn't happen but it's sure as hell not certain.[/quote]

I tried making that point...deaf ears

tryfuhl 01-08-2011 04:19 AM

Re: Graham Gano has to Go !!
 
[quote=SmootSmack;776197]I tried making that point...deaf ears[/quote]

mah fault bro, didn't figure there was enough worth it in a K thread to go back and read it all

QFT though

44ever 01-08-2011 08:28 AM

Re: Graham Gano has to Go !!
 
[quote=DM72;776174]Gano's lining up right now for a 30 yd FG. Are you confident he'll make it? I didn't think so.[/quote]

Actually at 30 yards, he's as good as any other kicker in the division. Look the guy did not kick well this season but that does not mean he is not a good kicker.

The whole team played lousy. Do we cut them all? Or give them time to mature in their position?

Gano does have a lot of potential. Sometimes you have to give a player time. From what I have seen from Gano, he will be a good kicker in time. IMO.

And again, give me a team that does not have to rely so heavily on a field goal kicker instead of a great field goal kicker.

rbanerjee23 09-18-2011 05:57 PM

Re: Graham Gano has to Go !!
 
I first started this thread last October and I am going to bring it up again ... dude kicked the game winner but he is a serious liability and there are no kicks (XPs excluded) which we can feel confident about with Gano as our kicker.

hooskins 09-18-2011 06:09 PM

Re: Graham Gano has to Go !!
 
I disagree. Hatters gon hat. He is a young kicker with a strong leg. Let's not "Akers" this one.

Alvin Walton 09-18-2011 06:24 PM

Re: Graham Gano has to Go !!
 
[quote=rbanerjee23;837314]I first started this thread last October and I am going to bring it up again ... dude kicked the game winner but he is a serious liability and there are no kicks (XPs excluded) which we can feel confident about with Gano as our kicker.[/quote]

Didn't you just say [COLOR="Red"]game winner[/COLOR]?

hooskins 09-18-2011 07:36 PM

Re: Graham Gano has to Go !!
 
Kid has swag..

[url=http://www.redskins.com/media-gallery/videos/Graham-Gano-9-18/3369cf0a-14e1-44d6-9381-4fa17d8b1380]Graham Gano: 9-18[/url]

Mechanix544 09-18-2011 07:54 PM

Re: Graham Gano has to Go !!
 
no, he might have kicked a game winner, but his nack for missing field goals that should be gimmes, or at least 85/15 probabilities, is getting very concerning. His accuracy is below average, and lets not even mention how many damn kickoffs he boots out of bounds, giving the opposing team a start at the 40 and deflating the team. Guy has a negative impact on the entire team, and this is one area where u are supposed to be a NON factor, not a negative one. Find another young kicker that needs a chance, and let him try it out. IMO cant really get too much worse than Gano. Guy is a 60/40 prospect at best for anything over 30 yards, and that just aint cutting it, sorry.

Mechanix544 09-18-2011 07:57 PM

Re: Graham Gano has to Go !!
 
In short, im just trying to make the point that Gano is in no way valuable to this team. There are plenty of other kickers out there that can be just as inconsistent, i think we know what we have with Gano. He just isnt good enough.

hooskins 09-18-2011 07:59 PM

Re: Graham Gano has to Go !!
 
[quote=Mechanix544;837436]no, he might have kicked a game winner, but his nack for missing field goals that should be gimmes, or at least 85/15 probabilities, is getting very concerning. His accuracy is below average, and lets not even mention how many damn kickoffs he boots out of bounds, giving the opposing team a start at the 40 and deflating the team. Guy has a negative impact on the entire team, and this is one area where u are supposed to be a NON factor, not a negative one. Find another young kicker that needs a chance, and let him try it out. IMO cant really get too much worse than Gano. Guy is a 60/40 prospect at best for anything over 30 yards, and that just aint cutting it, sorry.[/quote]

First of all, just looking at this season, the statistical sample is way too low say he tends to miss field goals. I don't recall him kicking a ton of kickoffs out of bounds in the past. I do recall, throughout the preseason and the last two games, that he has booted tons of KOs out of the endzone.

Also, who is a better option? The Chargers are using Novak after their kicker got hurt. Do you actually think Novak is better than Gano?

BleedBurgundy 09-18-2011 08:04 PM

Re: Graham Gano has to Go !!
 
he made the kick that won the game, and both of his non-blocked tries overall... what exactly is his margin for error in your opinion?

Chico23231 09-18-2011 08:05 PM

Re: Graham Gano has to Go !!
 
[quote=Mechanix544;837439]In short, im just trying to make the point that Gano is in no way valuable to this team. There are plenty of other kickers out there that can be just as inconsistent, i think we know what we have with Gano. He just isnt good enough.[/quote]

Im of the same opinion, but like Hoo says, we dont have any other options. Its kinda like Rex behind center, but we are 2-0 and we still could see improvement as the season goes on. Gano has alot to prove if he wants to be here next year. Lets see how it plays out.

Mechanix544 09-18-2011 08:08 PM

Re: Graham Gano has to Go !!
 
[quote=hooskins;837442]First of all, just looking at this season, the statistical sample is way too low say he tends to miss field goals. I don't recall him kicking a ton of kickoffs out of bounds in the past. I do recall, throughout the preseason and the last two games, that he has booted tons of KOs out of the endzone.

Also, who is a better option? The Chargers are using Novak after their kicker got hurt. Do you actually think Novak is better than Gano?[/quote]

Like I have said, Gano is horrible. And yes, I would take Novak in an instant over Gano, no questions. The guy just cannot be counted on, not even in the simplest of kicks. Dependability is a paramount trait when you kick the ball. He isnt dependable. When your whole team is on edge when you go to kick a 35 yarder, or just a 29 yarder, there is something wrong. He isnt an NFL caliber kicker, sorry. You can defend the guy all u want, but if his ass would have gotten the 2nd blocked fg up today, as well as if he didnt shank the first attempt, then we wouldnt of needed a chip shot game winner. Win the game he did not. He was just very very lucky that we didnt come out of the contest with a Loss in spite of his horrid play. And yes, his play so far this season has been absolutley atrocious. I cannot believe people want this bum retained on this team after the way he has been playing at the end of last year and so far this year. Seriously, I cannot believe there is ONE person defending this bum.


Cut him, likle I said before, there has to be one person on the waiver wire with just as much upside, well, id take an unknown at this point. Gano simply cannot be trusted.


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