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True enough. I was just referring to the current debacle when I said lately. Poor choice of word

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[quote=punch it in;1095031]Well what do you think? Do you think that Gruden went home and said to himself, "that wasnt very nice to say I better make this rite". I mean the two pressers were absolutely night and day. If there is one thing I believe Jay to be it is a strait shooter who is uber honest when he addresses the media. He doesnt seem indecisive in the slightest.
I completely believe he was told to make things right. Imo it made them more effed up.[/quote]

So that was an assumption. That's OK. I get that you might assume that. Why wouldn't someone assume that based on the circumstances?

On the other hand, based on my own experiences, I think that Gruden may well have decided to apologize on his own. As a manager, I sometimes said things to employees that I later regretted saying and I apologized for on my own initiative. I apologized for saying those things in the manner or place in which they were said. It wasn't that the things I said weren't true. But they were said in a manner or place that was hurtful or embarrassing to the other person and not helpful to our relationship. He may have apologized for similar reasons.

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1095035]So, that was an assumption. I get that you might assume that. Why wouldn't someone assume that based on the circumstances?



On the other hand, based on my own experiences, I think that Gruden may well have decided to apologize on his own. As a manager, I said things to employees that I later regretted saying and I then apologized on my own initiative. I apologized for saying those things in the manner or place in which they were said. It wasn't that the things I said weren't true. But they were said in a manner or place that was hurtful or embarrassing to the other person and not helpful to our relationship.[/QUOTE]


Of course we are assuming either way since neither of us know. Lets put it this way than, whether gruden did it on his own or not it was dumb. Because we both know that the world thinks he was ordered, as you said, why wouldnt they.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1095014][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/20/could-gruden-be-one-and-done-in-washington/]Could Gruden be one and done in Washington? | ProFootballTalk[/url]



Penned directly by Florio for no other reason to just pile on the Skins.



If Florio passes tomorrow i wouldnt shed a tear, might even crack a smile[/QUOTE]


At this point it's not crazy to at least bring up the possibility. We're 3-7 and full of drama just like last year. Gruden hasn't solved any of our issues. He's part of the problem now.

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[quote=Mattyk;1095037]At this point it's not crazy to at least bring up the possibility. We're 3-7 and full of drama just like last year. Gruden hasn't solved any of our issues. He's part of the problem now.[/quote]

That's the most depressing post yet in this thread, Matty. (heavy sigh)

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[quote=Mattyk;1095037]At this point it's not crazy to at least bring up the possibility. We're 3-7 and full of drama just like last year. Gruden hasn't solved any of our issues. He's part of the problem now.[/quote]

This would be the worst possible move. Only if Bruce, Doug Williams goes too would I say it as even close to acceptable.

It would have to be a Browns type cleaning out...amazing to say that.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk;1095037]At this point it's not crazy to at least bring up the possibility. We're 3-7 and full of drama just like last year. Gruden hasn't solved any of our issues. He's part of the problem now.[/QUOTE]


Ofcourse if (IF) he truely wanted Mccoy playing after Dallas and we are 5-5 than there is no drama and he looks like a pretty wise dude. Just throwin that out there.

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If they fired Gruden I see no way they could keep Allen, RG3, or any other big influence in Washington (outside of Snyder for obvious reasons).

Like George W. Bush said... You can't fool me twice.

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[quote=Chico23231;1095040]This would be the worst possible move. Only if Bruce, Doug Williams goes too would I see it as even close to acceptable.

It would have to be a Browns type cleaning out...amazing to say that.[/quote]

It would definitely be the worst possible move which is why I fully expect this dysfunctional, stupid, loser organization to make it.

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[quote=Chico23231;1095040]This would be the worst possible move. Only if Bruce, Doug Williams goes too would I see it as even close to acceptable.

[B]It would have to be a Browns type cleaning out...amazing to say that.[/B][/quote]

I would love that.

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[quote=irish;1095043]It would definitely be the worst possible move which is why I fully expect this dysfunctional, stupid, loser organization to make it.[/quote]

Raiders-like

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At this point, I really couldn't criticize any of the decision-makers concerning the choice of a starting QB. It seems to me that they have all probably done what they felt they needed to do for the needs of the business up to this point.

Nevertheless, I think that things could change dramatically if RGIII has another meltdown against the 49'ers.

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Can't fire Gruden, he is the only we have going for us.

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[quote=Evilgrin;1095049]Can't fire Gruden, he is the only we have going for us.[/quote]

What is it that's "going"?
I dont see squat.....

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[quote=Evilgrin;1095049]Can't fire Gruden, he is the only we have going for us.[/quote]

How has Gruden produced? What track record speaks for him?

I'm not saying he should be fired - such would disturb team continuity (again). But he has nothing on his record which screams "keep him," either.