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Chico23231 01-19-2016 09:47 PM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
[quote=punch it in;1138042]How is 9-7 a .465 win %?[/quote]

Hehehehehe....opponents win'%

skinsfaninok 01-19-2016 09:54 PM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
I don't think we need wr that early

EARTHQUAKE2689 01-19-2016 10:18 PM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1138044]I don't think we need wr that early[/quote]

Scot doesn't draft off of need, at the time the Giants drafted Odell Beckham they didn't need a WR that early either. Remember what happened last year, if Oakland hadn't taken Amari Cooper, he'd be a Redskin right now. Now if for some reason Laquon Treadwell is starring us in the face at 21, I could easily see Scot pulling the trigger.

punch it in 01-19-2016 10:27 PM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
[QUOTE=Chico23231;1138043]Hehehehehe....opponents win'%[/QUOTE]


2015 record : 9-7 (.465)
That denotes our opponents win % or r u just messing with me? Lol

punch it in 01-19-2016 10:35 PM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;1138045]Scot doesn't draft off of need, at the time the Giants drafted Odell Beckham they didn't need a WR that early either. Remember what happened last year, if Oakland hadn't taken Amari Cooper, he'd be a Redskin right now. Now if for some reason Laquon Treadwell is starring us in the face at 21, I could easily see Scot pulling the trigger.[/QUOTE]


You dont think Scherff over Williams had a dash of need to it? Williams was widely regarded as the bpa. Id say , at the time at least, oline was a bigger need than dline. I think that u always have to consider bpa and need than weigh your optins. Is bpa that much better than bpa at a position of need? Dont think its so black n white as just bpa all day long?

EARTHQUAKE2689 01-20-2016 08:22 AM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
[quote=punch it in;1138047]You dont think Scherff over Williams had a dash of need to it? Williams was widely regarded as the bpa. Id say , at the time at least, oline was a bigger need than dline. I think that u always have to consider bpa and need than weigh your optins. Is bpa that much better than bpa at a position of need? Dont think its so black n white as just bpa all day long?[/quote]

I don't because he stated that Scherff was the 3rd best player on his board behind Fowler and Cooper

punch it in 01-20-2016 08:29 AM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;1138051]I don't because he stated that Scherff was the 3rd best player on his board behind Fowler and Cooper[/QUOTE]


Fair enough. I still think you gotta go bpa / need but I aint worried. SM is a draft king. HTTR

That Guy 01-20-2016 08:57 AM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
[quote=Irrefutable;1138041]An Irrefutable list of 2016 Free Agents, including rankings

[url=http://walterfootball.com/freeagents2016all.php]WalterFootball.com: 2016 NFL Free Agents - Top 90[/url]

I want a C, RB, G, CB and S

Draft..... DL, LB, S, TE, RB, WR[/quote]

why a guard? we have two a big money LG, a top 5 pick at RG and depth there already.

MTK 01-20-2016 08:58 AM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;1138051]I don't because he stated that Scherff was the 3rd best player on his board behind Fowler and Cooper[/QUOTE]


People tend to forget everyone has their own draft board they're working from.

Chico23231 01-20-2016 09:26 AM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
[quote=punch it in;1138046]2015 record : 9-7 (.465)
That denotes our opponents win % or r u just messing with me? Lol[/quote]

[url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/25452974/complete-2016-nfl-draft-order-picks-1-28-are-now-official]Complete 2016 NFL Draft Order: Picks 1-28 are now locked in - CBSSports.com[/url]

21 Redskins 9 7 0.465

schedule strength

punch it in 01-20-2016 09:26 AM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
[QUOTE=MTK;1138055]People tend to forget everyone has their own draft board they're working from.[/QUOTE]


I just remember being surprised as though the pick was out of left field. I was happy about it because I thought it was the best pick for us. You are rite though I think back to Kipers big board as if SM gives a crap who Mel thinks the rite guy is. Lol.

punch it in 01-20-2016 09:27 AM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
[QUOTE=Chico23231;1138056][url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/25452974/complete-2016-nfl-draft-order-picks-1-28-are-now-official]Complete 2016 NFL Draft Order: Picks 1-28 are now locked in - CBSSports.com[/url]



21 Redskins 9 7 0.465



schedule strength[/QUOTE]


Gotcha.

JoeRedskin 01-20-2016 09:46 AM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
[quote=Irrefutable;1138041]An Irrefutable list of 2016 Free Agents, including rankings ...

I want a C, RB, G, CB and S

Draft..... DL, LB, S, TE, RB, WR[/quote]

[quote=That Guy;1138054]why a guard? we have two a big money LG, a top 5 pick at RG and depth there already.[/quote]

There are some good guards coming open - a lot in fact. The Ravens G who stepped in and performed admirably as LT jumps out at me. I am unconvinced that Luvaou is the answer at LG and Long may be depth but he was pushed around by D linemen a lot. As for A. Kouandjio, he may have a great attitude but he is serious project ([url=http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/10407/arie-kouandjio]Arie Kouandjio - Washington Redskins - 2016 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com[/url] : AK "is tight hipped and athletically deficient. Arie was a maddeningly inconsistent blocker on college tape, almost to the point of being undisciplined.").

The run game sucked. Even if Lauvuo is the answer (he left due to injury, run game goes south), I don't trust either Long or AK to step up. If we can get a quality guard at a good price, I wouldn't object. I can see it as not a priority but I wouldn't rule it out.

Nobody on the list other than Wisnewski stands out to me at center. To me, that's the real priority on the line. The pivot position needs to be upgraded either through free agency or the draft.

KI Skins Fan 01-20-2016 02:08 PM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
Wanna see an amazing scouting report? Check this out:

Ezekiel Elliott Scouting Report
By Charlie Campbell

Strengths:
First-step quickness
Serious burst to the hole
Excellent balance
Tremendous vision
Quick feet
Smooth runner
Ideal build
Runs behind his pads
Can break off long runs
Quick to the second level
Can be a one-cut downhill runner
Has elusiveness
Has the strength to run through tackles
Very hard to arm tackle
Rarely ever goes down on first contact
Capable of creating for himself
Gets yards after contact
Finishes runs well
Has a nose for the end zone
Wears down defenses
Good ball security
Runs low to the ground
Developed blocking and pass protection
Good receiver
Soft hands
Capable of controlling games
Runs well in the second half
Quality short-yardage back
Can change the complexion of an offense as a play-making runner
Experienced and successful against good college programs
Makes big plays in the clutch
Durable
Ready to play immediately

Weaknesses:
Good speed, but not elite

punch it in 01-20-2016 02:47 PM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1138092]Wanna see an amazing scouting report? Check this out:



Ezekiel Elliott Scouting Report

By Charlie Campbell



Strengths:

First-step quickness

Serious burst to the hole

Excellent balance

Tremendous vision

Quick feet

Smooth runner

Ideal build

Runs behind his pads

Can break off long runs

Quick to the second level

Can be a one-cut downhill runner

Has elusiveness

Has the strength to run through tackles

Very hard to arm tackle

Rarely ever goes down on first contact

Capable of creating for himself

Gets yards after contact

Finishes runs well

Has a nose for the end zone

Wears down defenses

Good ball security

Runs low to the ground

Developed blocking and pass protection

Good receiver

Soft hands

Capable of controlling games

Runs well in the second half

Quality short-yardage back

Can change the complexion of an offense as a play-making runner

Experienced and successful against good college programs

Makes big plays in the clutch

Durable

Ready to play immediately



Weaknesses:

Good speed, but not elite[/QUOTE]


Saw one mock that had us taking him at 21


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