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Well lets take a grand look at the scheme of things.

- Jason Campbell gave a good effort today. Completely wasted.

- Santana Moss - Honestly man, just about as poor of a game as I've ever seen him play. I can't count all the times he cost us, but we all know about the fumble for a td, the dropped pass that led to a pick, the deep ball that he dropped, he had numerous drops on the afternoon and I think we should sit his ass down until he gets his head straight, gets his injuries completly healed, and gets back into the game mentally.

- Plenty of injuries to the offensive line. There's nobody to blame for that really, it's just something that happened, and I honestly do believe that if your offensive line isn't worth a shit, your offense probably isn't gonna be worth a shit either, and that's what it looked like today.

- Cooley. The only bright spot on offense. Once again, a completely wasted effort.

- The defense. Great game by them today, ST with the 2 picks, and once again I'm saying this, but it was completely wasted.

- Turnovers. No team can win on the road when they turn the ball over like we did, save for a Dallas team playing one of the worst teams in the NFL, and Green Bay is far from being one of the worst teams in the NFL.

Overall, this season is starting to remind me of 2004 all over again in some aspects. We're getting great defensive play but offense is killing us. Jason Campbell is doing his job and progressing, but the rest of our offense is not showing up and they aren't looking good right now. We're not gonna go anywhere this season unless the O starts playing better, mistake free football. I was pissed a lot at the end of the game, but I'm trying to keep a level head here. Oh yeah and I'm sick of playing great first half football, and then coming out in the second half and blowing ass. And I am about to start calling out the coaching staff for some horrible clock management. We've seen it time and time again over Gibbs' tenure, and I honestly think it's gonna be an issue until we get a new head coach. That's why the only way for us to win games will be to get a good lead and keep it at the end of the game, because I have serious doubts in our ability to run a 2 minute offense when we're behind.

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[quote=Smooter;364134]Anyone know why Reche Caldwell hasn't dressed up?[/quote]

12th ventured a guess that maybe he hasn't picked up on the playbook very well yet.

I was asking that question myself. Cause God knows we coulda used him out there today.

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caldwell played last week.

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We could use some more depth on the O line but who plans on losing as many players as we have this year? It's going to catch up with you, and it definitely has caught up with us.

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on a side note I thought playing Sellars today in fantasy was bad Moss gv me a solid -1 pts

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[quote=mooby;364139]Well lets take a grand look at the scheme of things.

- Jason Campbell gave a good effort today. Completely wasted.

- Santana Moss - Honestly man, just about as poor of a game as I've ever seen him play. I can't count all the times he cost us, but we all know about the fumble for a td, the dropped pass that led to a pick, the deep ball that he dropped, he had numerous drops on the afternoon and I think we should sit his ass down until he gets his head straight, gets his injuries completly healed, and gets back into the game mentally.

- Plenty of injuries to the offensive line. There's nobody to blame for that really, it's just something that happened, and I honestly do believe that if your offensive line isn't worth a shit, your offense probably isn't gonna be worth a shit either, and that's what it looked like today.

- Cooley. The only bright spot on offense. Once again, a completely wasted effort.

- The defense. Great game by them today, ST with the 2 picks, and once again I'm saying this, but it was completely wasted.

- Turnovers. No team can win on the road when they turn the ball over like we did, save for a Dallas team playing one of the worst teams in the NFL, and Green Bay is far from being one of the worst teams in the NFL...[/quote]


Mooby, you hit the nail on the head repeatedly with a pneumatic gun... I couldn't have summed up today's game much better

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What a shit joke that game was. Bad clock management, turnovers, drops, miscues, bad execution, injuries... I can't remember being this frustrated after a skins game in a long time. Jesus.

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Thanks LongTimeSkinsFan.

These losses are the worst, where we are up at the half and playing good football, and the other team comes out and plays better and makes more plays and then beats us in the end because we can't execute. I'd rather see us get blown out just because you know that you are probably gonna lose the game rather than get all excited only to be disappointed at the end.

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it sucks

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[QUOTE=LongTimeSkinsFan;364160]Mooby, you hit the nail on the head repeatedly with a pneumatic gun... I couldn't have summed up today's game much better[/QUOTE] :vomit:

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The way I see it Mooby you take away the miscues we made and we walk away a winner... plain and simple. Our D once again contained a pretty potent, but otherwise one dimensional offense. Look at Green Bay and how many points their offense has put up this year in previous games. Today they only score 10. I'd love to hear what Favre would have to say about the skins defense today but my guess is he'll never want to face them again this year if at all possible.

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pretty much, all we had to do was handle our business on O and not have those miscues/turnovers and we walk away with a win. The defense played great once again but this time our offense did not support them. The turnovers were the major reason, but honestly they're always a major reason why teams lose. It's no suprise to anyone that we committed turnovers and we lost, especially when one of those turnovers is returned for 6.

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And should be 5 and 0 nothing else can be said.......

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Cut Santana Moss, he is only hurting us.

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I think that's a very irrational statement sir. We could at least get something for him if we traded him, one bad game is not grounds for cutting your #1 wideout. He just needs to get healthy and get back into the right frame of mind.

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[QUOTE]Cut Santana Moss, he is only hurting us.[/QUOTE]

:lol::lol:

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Seriously though, Moss needs to get his head out of his ass....because his performance this year has been garbage

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[quote=mooby;364234]I think that's a very irrational statement sir. We could at least get something for him if we traded him, one bad game is not grounds for cutting your #1 wideout. He just needs to get healthy and get back into the right frame of mind.[/quote]

I think if we act fast we can get L. Coles back.

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[quote=Cowell;364229]Cut Santana Moss, he is only hurting us.[/quote]

Dude please dont post anything stupid like that again.

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i hope gibbs works all the miscues out. could we have destroyed ourselves any better.

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Our D kept putting us back in the game, and then we'd just flush it down the toilet.

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[QUOTE=Cowell;364229]Cut Santana Moss, he is only hurting us.[/QUOTE]

I believe we may already have a winner for "Dumbest Comment of the Week."

I thought it was usually late Monday before it showed up.

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LOL, I know that would rattle you guys. I'm just messing around, but I was really pissed at him. He is the reason we lost. He wasn't the only one dropping catches but he dropped some key ones. He didn't have one catch, he dropped 2 or 3 and when he finally got his hands on the ball he fumbled. For our #1 receiver that is inexcusable. Not only that but he hasn't just had a bad game, he has had a bad season. He has dropped passes left and right, maybe he's hurt and if he is hurt and can't preform then he shouldn't be out there.

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just curious, on that 4th down and like 1 or 2. how long of a fg attempt would that have been? i know hind sight is 20/20 but what if we kicked it and made it. never know.i would have atleast lined up for the attempt to see if we could draw them offsides, i saw a few plays where they were offsides but no flag.. oh well i guess its in the Cards next week.

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I don't say cut him, but I would really rethink about resigning him. We really need a guy that is physically imposing like TO, Randy Moss or Stallworth IMHO to be our #1 go to guy. I fear that Santana is going to be oft injured as he is taking a beating more often. Also I wonder if it is more than just his groin. I know the weather sucked and all, but that bomb that JC threw to him should have been caught. If Santana is not 100%, I say give McCardell more playing time. I liked what I saw in him against the Lions last week.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;364368]I don't say cut him, but I would really rethink about resigning him. We really need a guy that is physically imposing like TO, Randy Moss or Stallworth IMHO to be our #1 go to guy. I fear that Santana is going to be oft injured as he is taking a beating more often. Also I wonder if it is more than just his groin. I know the weather sucked and all, but that bomb that JC threw to him should have been caught. If Santana is not 100%, I say give McCardell more playing time. I liked what I saw in him against the Lions last week.[/quote]

You really wanna shell out TO or Randy Moss type money especially after all this money we paid, I'm-so-good, Brandon Lloyd to sit on his ass and do nothing all year? Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

Santana is just as good as any of those guys. Sure he's not 6'1 but damned if he just as fast or faster. You gotta keep Santana cause even though he's sucking badly so far this year, he's been consistent in the pass and easily has the ability to be consistent again once he gets back into his groove (here's hoping)

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Not saying actually go for TO or Randy Moss, just draft a kid, or get a cheaper, younger FA WR that is more physically imposing. Santana is quick and usually has sure hands, but I think his height does limit him in some respects like with jump balls or allowing JC some leverage in throwing it higher. In the games that I have seen, Santana is only getting bombs off fly routes or real short stuff. I think you bench Santana and put in McCardell for now. I don't think Santana is 100% yet. We have an easier team in Arizona, but go on the road to AFC East land for two weeks. We can't afford to go 0-2 off that road trip.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;364397]You really wanna shell out TO or Randy Moss type money especially after all this money we paid, I'm-so-good, Brandon Lloyd to sit on his ass and do nothing all year? Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

Santana is just as good as any of those guys. Sure he's not 6'1 but damned if he just as fast or faster. You gotta keep Santana cause even though he's sucking badly so far this year, he's been consistent in the pass and easily has the ability to be consistent again once he gets back into his groove (here's hoping)[/quote]


And do you think Santana is going to ask a lower price for his services come negotiation time? Also, can you really say that picking between Santana or Randy or Santana and TO would be hard? Did you watch the Dallas/NE game tonight? Both are dominant forces, tall, strong, physical, etc. Shoot I would even like to get a guy like Marques Colston in here as well. I like Santana, but his asking price is probably going to be too high for what he gives the team come negotiation time anyway. Only way we keep him is if he reverts to '05 form or his asking price is reasonable.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;364467]And do you think Santana is going to ask a lower price for his services come negotiation time? Also, can you really say that picking between Santana or Randy or Santana and TO would be hard? Did you watch the Dallas/NE game tonight? Both are dominant forces, tall, strong, physical, etc. Shoot I would even like to get a guy like Marques Colston in here as well. I like Santana, but his asking price is probably going to be too high for what he gives the team come negotiation time anyway. Only way we keep him is if he reverts to '05 form or his asking price is reasonable.[/quote]

Yes because not only is Santana a good player he's also classy. And you know how Gibbs feels about classy players.

I think it's a GREAT idea to bring a team chemistry plague like TO here to the Skins. Especially after that bitchfest he threw last season. Come on! Everyone hop on the "TO to DC bandwagon" Hurry, before we run out of space.

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a positive of the game is that Sean taylor is defienetly the player we drafted, last year had me scared

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Just a week ago, this site was loaded with posts talking about how much we needed Moss to play in the Lions game...this week we're talking about how much he's stinking up the joint and we should consider trading or cutting him

Just a week ago, this site was loaded with posts talking about how it was so cool that Saunders was going for a pass on 4th and short...this week, we can't understand why he didn't just call a handoff to Sellers

Ahh...to be a Redskins fan.

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After reading this, I am GLAD it wasn't broadcast in my area.

I was treated to the Eagles trying to hand the game to the blue and gold Jets (throwbacks) and couldn't get it done. That was an ugly game too.