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WillH 04-23-2009 12:14 PM

Re: Mark Sanchez at 13th?
 
I don't know what to think about this whole thing . . .

I think that if we were in dire need of a young QB then I would be very excited by the prospect of drafting Sanchez, but honestly that excitement would be based on little other than hype. I mean his highlights are fairly impressive, and he's got a dynamite personality, especially compared to JC's robotic stoicism, and he seemed very excited about the possibility of being a redskin, but he's had what 16 starts as a college QB? How is that enough for this franchise to take such a huge risk to secure him? I mean I feel like JC's credentials coming out of college were a bit more comforting, (okay sure it wasn't until his fourth season starting that he really took off, but being successful in despite the system changes seemed to indicate he was more then a product of his environment, at very least) and what we gave up a 1st, 3rd, and 4th to secure him at pick 25? Now we are potentially going to give up double that to secure Sanchez? I'm just not sure it's a sound investment. How can you justify the risk with so little to base the potential reward on?

They must really have no faith in JC as our franchise QB. A trade up for Sanchez would go way beyond the Redskins covering all their bases, considering all possibilities to improve the franchise. Talk of it is even toeing the line when it comes to the QB position, you really risk effecting the psyche of a young QB in these situations, so you've got to think their concern in JC as our future must outweigh their concern that they might be damaging his ego at crucial juncture in his career.

Sooo as I see it, one of three things can happen:

1. We pull the trigger, get MS, trade JC, and start a very unproven young QB, with Todd Collins as the seasoned veteran, and they essentially will have pressed reset when it comes to Zorn teaching the starting QB his system ...

2. They can't trade up, they settle for JC, whom they have no faith in, and whose ego is severely tentative due to our off season moves ( I've heard he's gone on vacation with Sellers, so he is obviously concerned about all this) ...

3. It proves to be a smoke screen, and a brilliant one at that, but what could all this convoluted scheming be a smoke screen for? Could JC be in on it? Are they trying to trick teams into thinking they are a disjointed franchise, so they can pounce on unsuspecting teams during the season with JC (who secretly they had complete faith in the whole time) at the helm? Will the take a fall through the preseason to keep this going?

Option three is the only one that would restore my faith in this FO, and certainly the least likely to happen. So in that light, I guess I'm on board with drafting Sanchez. I guess if they have no faith in JC it'd be better for them to pull the trigger now while they can get [I]something[/I] for him ( btw, what do you think we can get?) than to hope his stoic demeanor is so pervasive he can actually not care about what has gone down this off season, and can prove them wrong.

All in all, this franchise is way too tumultuous to develop into a real contender. S@#$, why do you need a superstar QB? I know its exciting to watch and all, but it is not a surefire way to win a SuperBowl ( i.e. McNabb). I would have much preferred they stuck it out with Campbell, but at this point I'm not sure that option and their aims are reconcilable any longer. Either way, the future of the franchise is extremely uncertain at the moment, this move has the feel of one of the colossal mistakes of the Dan Snyder era.

irish 04-23-2009 12:16 PM

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[quote=Buster;548683]Can you say that with certainty?

:D


Snyder has done a great job drafting actually. At least in the 1st-round.

2008 *traded down*
2007 LaRon Landry
2006 *traded pick*
2005 Jason Campbell (traded up for extra Round 1 pick)
2005 Carlos Rogers
2004 Sean Taylor
2003 *traded pick*
2002 Patrick Ramsey BUST
2001 Rod Gardner BUST
2000 Chris Samuels
2000 LaVar Arrington
1999 Champ Bailey *traded for Portis*

However,[B] the WORST Redskins' pick ever was Heath Shuler[/B] in 1994. Skins fans, myself included, thought this guy would be the greatest QB ever...he sucked horribly. Even worse than Patrick Ramsey. In 1995, we drafted Michael Westbrook, who was great for a year, then beat up Stephen Davis in practice and failed miserably after that. Desmond Howard in 1992 was a lot better AFTER he left Washington.

But, look at the last few drafts, very solid.[/quote]

If memory serves those successful picks are slanted toward the top half of the first round, my 12 yr old nephew who is a mega football fan could be successful in the top half of the first round. What amazes me is that Skins fans have to talk about how DS, the owner, has done in the draft. You dont hear Steeler fans talk about how Rooney did in the draft because Rooney doesnt draft, his football people do. The first step toward the Skins becomming a successful organization again will be when the owner stops making talent evaluations and draft decisions.

MTK 04-23-2009 12:17 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;548664]Putting aside what would have to be given up to get them, who would you guys think would be the better QB for us-Sanchez or Quinn?[/quote]

Good question I really don't know.

I guess I know more about Quinn, I honestly have never seen Sanchez play other than just checking out some YouTube highlights. I'm guessing Sanchez may have more potential, but Quinn is probably more ready for success in the short term.

skinsfan_nn 04-23-2009 12:21 PM

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Well we are at 13 right now in the first ..but whos counting..? This could get very interesting.

Sanchez Situation Getting Interesting
Posted by Mike Florio on April 23, 2009, 12:02 p.m.

At a time when much of the focus falls on the question of when and if the Lions will do a deal with Georgia quarterback Matthew Stafford as the No. 1 overall pick, the other big-name quarterback is continuing to stir things up.

[B]According to Sal Paolantonio of ESPN[/B], intrigue is developing surrounding USC quarterback Mark Sanchez.

Several teams are involved — the Seahawks, Browns, Redskins, and Jets, for starters.

One scenario involves the Redskins moving from No. 12 to No. 4 (a spot held by Seattle), drafting Sanchez, and then trading Jason Campbell to the Vikings, Bucs, or Jets.

The Browns also are supposedly interested in taking Sanchez at No. 5 and trading Brady Quinn, to the Bucs or the Jets.

Per Paolantonio, the Jets are the team most interested in Quinn. But the Jets also are inclined to try to beat the ‘Skins to Sanchez.

If Sanchez is on the board after pick No. 5, we’ve been told that the action is likely at No. 8, with the Jags trading down with the Redskins or the Jets.

skinsfan_nn 04-23-2009 12:23 PM

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[quote=Lotus;548681]Nope. The Sanchez talk is all a ruse. The good thing is that it had fooled many people, which was the goal of the talk all along.

Angry is correct. [B]Sanchez is not really on the radar[/B].[/quote]

Huh..? Don't fool yourself.

BigHairedAristocrat 04-23-2009 12:24 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;548664]Putting aside what would have to be given up to get them, who would you guys think would be the better QB for us-Sanchez or Quinn?[/quote]

Is this a real question or am i missing some sarcasm? ;) I know he was hyped coming out of college, but Quinn is entering his third year in the league and cant surplant Derek Anderson on the freaking Cleavland Browns. Thats all i need to know about him.

Sanchez is definitely a better fit for this offense.

Paintrain 04-23-2009 12:31 PM

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;548702]Well we are at 13 right now in the first ..but whos counting..? This could get very interesting.

Sanchez Situation Getting Interesting
Posted by Mike Florio on April 23, 2009, 12:02 p.m.

At a time when much of the focus falls on the question of when and if the Lions will do a deal with Georgia quarterback Matthew Stafford as the No. 1 overall pick, the other big-name quarterback is continuing to stir things up.

[B]According to Sal Paolantonio of ESPN[/B], intrigue is developing surrounding USC quarterback Mark Sanchez.

Several teams are involved — the Seahawks, Browns, Redskins, and Jets, for starters.

One scenario involves the Redskins moving from No. 12 to No. 4 (a spot held by Seattle), drafting Sanchez, and then trading Jason Campbell to the Vikings, Bucs, or Jets.

The Browns also are supposedly interested in taking Sanchez at No. 5 and trading Brady Quinn, to the Bucs or the Jets.

Per Paolantonio, the Jets are the team most interested in Quinn. But the Jets also are inclined to try to beat the ‘Skins to Sanchez.

If Sanchez is on the board after pick No. 5, we’ve been told that the action is likely at No. 8, with the Jags trading down with the Redskins or the Jets.[/quote]

I see your ESPN reporter and raise you with ESPN NFC East Blogger Matt Mosley-

Sanjay (Da Iladel, PA): Considering the Skins signed Haynesworth to compete right now, won't drafting a guy like Sanchez, who is clearly not ready to start immediately with his limited college experience, set the Redskins playoff chances back a couple years? I think it would be difficult to keep Campbell as a starter with one year left on his contract and Sanchez as a backup.

SportsNation Matt Mosley: (10:18 AM ET ) Franchise quarterbacks are hard to come by. [b]If the 'Skins have truly fallen in love with Sanchez (and I'm not convinced they have),[/b] then you don't have a bunch of "win now" discussions. Did anyone think the Falcons would "win now" after drafting Ryan. I think you'd bring the kid in and let him compete with Campbell. If Campbell wins, that might actually be a positive thing.

vic (dc) [via mobile]: do u think the redskins will move up to get sanchez? or do they hope for maybin or orakpo to drop

SportsNation Matt Mosley: (10:45 AM ET ) [b]'Skins are privately saying it's not going to happen.[/b] But I don't believe anything right now. Not even my wife. Kidding.

Rocky(Binghamton,NY): I don't like any of the prospects outside of Orakpo/Maybin at number 11 for the bills. If neither is there I'd say trade down to maximize their draft picks. What do you think the bills can get for there #11 pick if sanchez is still available?

SportsNation Matt Mosley: (10:58 AM ET ) I'd get Vinny Cerrato on the phone and find out. The Redskins would simply swap picks with the Bills. But Buffalo's going to also ask for a premium pick in 2010 (see first-rounder). [b]I know Snyder doesn't want to do it.[/b] But that might be the price.

Paintrain 04-23-2009 12:41 PM

Re: Mark Sanchez at 13th?
 
[quote=Buster;548683]Can you say that with certainty?

:D


Snyder has done a great job drafting actually. At least in the 1st-round.

2008 *traded down*
2007 LaRon Landry
2006 *traded pick*
2005 Jason Campbell (traded up for extra Round 1 pick)
2005 Carlos Rogers
2004 Sean Taylor
2003 *traded pick*
2002 Patrick Ramsey BUST
2001 Rod Gardner BUST
2000 Chris Samuels
2000 LaVar Arrington
1999 Champ Bailey *traded for Portis*

However,[B] the WORST Redskins' pick ever was Heath Shuler[/B] in 1994. Skins fans, myself included, thought this guy would be the greatest QB ever...he sucked horribly. Even worse than Patrick Ramsey. [b]In 1995, we drafted Michael Westbrook, who was great for a year, then beat up Stephen Davis in practice and failed miserably after that.[/b] Desmond Howard in 1992 was a lot better AFTER he left Washington.

But, look at the last few drafts, very solid.[/quote]
If I recall correctly Westbroke beat up Davis in '98, had his breakout season in '99, then floundered after that and was out of the league within 3 years. SS, were you working in the market at that time?

What were the details of any of the trades that we gave up 1st round picks and who were the players drafted in those slots?

Monksdown 04-23-2009 01:00 PM

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[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft09/news/story?id=4092024]Heavy interest in Mark Sanchez in NFL draft - ESPN[/url]

skinsfan69 04-23-2009 01:11 PM

Re: Mark Sanchez at 13th?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;548664]Putting aside what would have to be given up to get them, who would you guys think would be the better QB for us-Sanchez or Quinn?[/quote]

I'd say Quinn cause he's had two years of NFL experience. But I don't see Quinn or Sanchez being a top NFL. They just look like middle of the pack or serviceable guys. Neither has the skill set of Carson Palmer, Jay Cutler, Flacco or even Campbell.

Paintrain 04-23-2009 01:16 PM

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JLC chatting Redskins draft now at [url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2009/04/22/DI2009042202698.html]NFL Draft: Will the Redskins Land Sanchez? - washingtonpost.com[/url]

skinsfan69 04-23-2009 01:18 PM

Re: Mark Sanchez at 13th?
 
[quote=skinsfan_nn;548702]Well we are at 13 right now in the first ..but whos counting..? This could get very interesting.

Sanchez Situation Getting Interesting
Posted by Mike Florio on April 23, 2009, 12:02 p.m.

At a time when much of the focus falls on the question of when and if the Lions will do a deal with Georgia quarterback Matthew Stafford as the No. 1 overall pick, the other big-name quarterback is continuing to stir things up.

[B]According to Sal Paolantonio of ESPN[/B], intrigue is developing surrounding USC quarterback Mark Sanchez.

Several teams are involved — the Seahawks, Browns, Redskins, and Jets, for starters.

[B]One scenario involves the Redskins moving from No. 12 to No. 4 (a spot held by Seattle), drafting Sanchez, and then trading Jason Campbell to the Vikings, Bucs, or Jets.[/B]

The Browns also are supposedly interested in taking Sanchez at No. 5 and trading Brady Quinn, to the Bucs or the Jets.

Per Paolantonio, the Jets are the team most interested in Quinn. But the Jets also are inclined to try to beat the ‘Skins to Sanchez.

If Sanchez is on the board after pick No. 5, we’ve been told that the action is likely at No. 8, with the Jags trading down with the Redskins or the Jets.[/quote]

Yeah I just heard this. Where there is smoke there is fire. I just get the feeling that Jason Campbell's days are numbered here. I mean are the Jets and Bucs really going to go into the season with the current group of QB's they have??? I doubt it. I would think that the NYJ would be a perfect fit for Campbell.

dmek25 04-23-2009 01:21 PM

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just read the jets are interested in Campbell. cant get the link to work. anyone have an idea on what he would be worth?

jsarno 04-23-2009 01:24 PM

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[quote=Monksdown;548723][url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft09/news/story?id=4092024]Heavy interest in Mark Sanchez in NFL draft - ESPN[/url][/quote]

This should be a lesson to all agents...hype a kid enough and he gets an amazing amount of interest.

Monkeydad 04-23-2009 01:27 PM

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[B]
NFL Network's Steve Wyche reports that there is "chatter" the Jets would try to swing a trade for Jason Campbell on draft day if the Redskins move up to draft [SIZE=6]Matthew Stafford[/SIZE].[/B]
This is pretty much setting the stage for a potential three-team swap. The Skins are already short on picks and would likely have to dip into their 2010 draft class to move up the board. It could potentially also mean throwing Sanchez into the fire, which sounds foolish after only 16 college starts.

[URL="http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=3137"]Jason Campbell[/URL]


[B]Has to be a typo![/B]

mooby 04-23-2009 01:32 PM

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im just gonna go ahead and say it, snyder should just fire zorn and take over as coach because why have a coach that u are always gonna undermine with stupid decisions. i try to stay levelheaded at times like these but with ideas as bad as these its hard not to.

GTripp0012 04-23-2009 01:35 PM

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[quote=Buster;548734][B]
NFL Network's Steve Wyche reports that there is "chatter" the Jets would try to swing a trade for Jason Campbell on draft day if the Redskins move up to draft [SIZE=6]Matthew Stafford[/SIZE].[/B]
This is pretty much setting the stage for a potential three-team swap. The Skins are already short on picks and would likely have to dip into their 2010 draft class to move up the board. It could potentially also mean throwing Sanchez into the fire, which sounds foolish after only 16 college starts.

[URL="http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=3137"]Jason Campbell[/URL]


[B]Has to be a typo![/B][/quote]Nah, Vinny just got his highly polished QBs that we're supposed to be interested in all mixed up.

mooby 04-23-2009 01:42 PM

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seems like everybody else has gotten used to the idea of jc being gone before training camp but im still a stout campbell supporter.

Paintrain 04-23-2009 01:51 PM

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[quote=mooby;548739]seems like everybody else has gotten used to the idea of jc being gone before training camp but im still a stout campbell supporter.[/quote]

Nah, I'm with you but am starting to accept that Sanchez may be our QB.

Dirtbag59 04-23-2009 01:56 PM

Re: Mark Sanchez at 13th?
 
[quote=Buster;548734][B]
NFL Network's Steve Wyche reports that there is "chatter" the Jets would try to swing a trade for Jason Campbell on draft day if the Redskins move up to draft [SIZE=6]Matthew Stafford[/SIZE].[/B]
This is pretty much setting the stage for a potential three-team swap. The Skins are already short on picks and would likely have to dip into their 2010 draft class to move up the board. It could potentially also mean throwing Sanchez into the fire, which sounds foolish after only 16 college starts.

[URL="http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=3137"]Jason Campbell[/URL]


[B]Has to be a typo![/B][/quote]

I don't like Stafford. At least as a Redskin. Sanchez on the other hand has all the tools to succeed as a West Coast QB. Good feet, mobile, accurate, quick release. He also has some nice intangibles. His setbacks of course are limited starting experience and average arm strength but for a West Coast QB this isn't to big of a deal.

GridIron26 04-23-2009 01:57 PM

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[quote=mooby;548739]seems like everybody else has gotten used to the idea of jc being gone before training camp but im still a stout campbell supporter.[/quote]

I'm still in JC bandwagon, big time - I truly believe he can be good QB when given a appropriate chance.. But it would be better for me to accept the fact of possibilities of drafting Shanchez, in order for me to be less upset.. I would be greatly upset when I'm sure that Redskins would not draft him and they draft him..

GTripp0012 04-23-2009 02:02 PM

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If Campbell gets dealt, I'm not going to abandon the Skins, but I will adopt the team he goes to and root fervently for them.

MTK 04-23-2009 02:05 PM

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Who does Sanchez have for an agent? Could Snyder just be doing this guy a favor by hyping up his client?

GridIron26 04-23-2009 02:07 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;548756]Who does Sanchez have for an agent? Could Snyder just be doing this guy a favor by hyping up his client?[/quote]

Good question.. I'm going go look for it..

Edit: [URL="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/allthingstrojan/2009/01/sanchez-agent.html"]Mark Sanchez reportedly picks brother as his agent | All Things Trojan | Los Angeles Times[/URL]

I'm not sure if it's correct information in present time but.. Sanchez's brother, Nick is representing him and David Dunn, Carson Palmer's agent is an adviser for Nick..

luvstar99 04-23-2009 02:10 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;548756]Who does Sanchez have for an agent? Could Snyder just be doing this guy a favor by hyping up his client?[/quote]

Since when did the Skins do anyone a favor? We're always on the short end of the stick when its come to Synder/Vinny making trades. Would be nice to have that 2nd round pick we gave away for Taylor.

jsarno 04-23-2009 02:17 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;548756]Who does Sanchez have for an agent? Could Snyder just be doing this guy a favor by hyping up his client?[/quote]

You could be right...if we end up with Sanchez, we could likely blame Snyder for being too stupid to keep his mouth shut. Who knows really.

I do like Stafford...he's a "can't miss" prospect IMO. But no way would I want to pay the amazingly high price it would take to get him.

Damn it, I just want Orakpo, is that too much to ask?

Defensewins 04-23-2009 02:22 PM

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Misinformation? I hope so.
I really do not think Sanchez is worth trading up for him.
Snyderatto, please do not give up future picks for this guy.
I am disappointed that they are not going to give Campbell a chance with a good offensive line in front of him. Campbell behind a good offensive line could become great.
Most underclassmen QB's taken high in the draft end up busts. Sanchez has very little experience. He threw something like 460 passes in his entire college career.

CRedskinsRule 04-23-2009 02:27 PM

Re: Mark Sanchez at 13th?
 
[quote=skinsfan_nn;548702]Well we are at 13 right now in the first ..but whos counting..? This could get very interesting.

Sanchez Situation Getting Interesting
Posted by Mike Florio on April 23, 2009, 12:02 p.m.

At a time when much of the focus falls on the question of when and if the Lions will do a deal with Georgia quarterback Matthew Stafford as the No. 1 overall pick, the other big-name quarterback is continuing to stir things up.

[B]According to Sal Paolantonio of ESPN[/B], intrigue is developing surrounding USC quarterback Mark Sanchez.

Several teams are involved — the Seahawks, Browns, Redskins, and Jets, for starters.

One scenario involves the [B]Redskins moving from No. 12[/B] to No. 4 (a spot held by Seattle), drafting Sanchez, and then trading Jason Campbell to the Vikings, Bucs, or Jets.

The Browns also are supposedly interested in taking Sanchez at No. 5 and trading Brady Quinn, to the Bucs or the Jets.

Per Paolantonio, the Jets are the team most interested in Quinn. But the Jets also are inclined to try to beat the ‘Skins to Sanchez.

If Sanchez is on the board after pick No. 5, we’ve been told that the action is likely at No. 8, with the Jags trading down with the Redskins or the Jets.[/quote]

Hate to nit pick, but we don't have the 12th. I know all these rumors will be flying for the next few days, but I can't see any way that we actually trade for Sanchez. None, Zero, Zip, Zilch. Zorn, who by all appearances is the least able to put up a false front, has been continually supporting Campbell, and barely able to smoke screen that we might go for someone else. Vinny, we all know, "lies" up until a final deal is done. And DS has said nothing except vague statements about winning to enable VC's draft day manipulations. I am absolutely confident that we will not pick Sanchez.

luvstar99 04-23-2009 02:38 PM

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Lets just take the best player at 13 and start filling some holes we do have. The front office should give JC a second year in this offense. There is always next year to fall in love with the next sexy QB.

mredskins 04-23-2009 02:41 PM

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Ok we are talking quality of the line and benefiting Campbell but, is Kendal gone for next year?

I know off topic.

Soup's Uncle 04-23-2009 02:56 PM

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Man, if these aren't all smoke screens, Jason Campbell has to be hating life.

But what if JC is in on this and it is a smoke screen? I haven't heard anything from Jason Campbell since the Cutler issue. Since then, no one has interviewed Campbell. I could be wrong, but the Campbell camp has been silent.

During "Cutlergate", JC was on all the radio shows and on Sportsnite getting interviewed. Now there's silence.

tryfuhl 04-23-2009 03:12 PM

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[quote=Lotus;548681]Nope. The Sanchez talk is all a ruse. The good thing is that it had fooled many people, which was the goal of the talk all along.

Angry is correct. Sanchez is not really on the radar.[/quote]

If this was several months ago where it was thought that Sanchez might still be around at 13 you might have a point. We really don't have a lot of reason to hype Sanchez without being in a position to pick him, where's the benefit?

tryfuhl 04-23-2009 03:23 PM

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[quote=Paintrain;548708]
SportsNation Matt Mosley: (10:58 AM ET ) I'd get Vinny Cerrato on the phone and find out. The Redskins would simply swap picks with the Bills. But Buffalo's going to also ask for a premium pick in 2010 (see first-rounder). [B]I know Snyder doesn't want to do it.[/B] But that might be the price.[/quote]
A frickin first for 2 spots? then again you do have to worry about denver taking him at 12

I just can't see Sanchez going that high though... especially when there appears to be a few teams definitely willing to trade up for him.. what would stop us, the jets, etc from trading up well before 11 if he starts slipping? do the browns just give up on going after him? I know that was the guy's question but still

Defensewins 04-23-2009 03:32 PM

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[quote=tryfuhl;548788]If this was several months ago where it was thought that Sanchez might still be around at 13 you might have a point. We really don't have a lot of reason to hype Sanchez without being in a position to pick him, where's the benefit?[/quote]

I might be misunderstanding your post...but if I understand question correctly, the benefit of hyping another player you have no intention of drafting is the teams drafting ahead of you will take the player you are hyping instead of the player you realyl want, like an Okrapo, a LB or an OT.
We really need an OT, DE, LB or C.
A Qb would be a luxury pick. Especially if we have give up future picks or another player to get Sanchez.
I personally do not think Sanchez is worth giving up future picks to move up to get. Sanchez has publicly stated he wants to go to Seattle.

BigHairedAristocrat 04-23-2009 03:33 PM

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[quote=Soup's Uncle;548782]Man, [I]if these aren't all smoke screens, Jason Campbell has to be hating life.[/I]

But what if JC is in on this and it is a smoke screen? I haven't heard anything from Jason Campbell since the Cutler issue. Since then, no one has interviewed Campbell. I could be wrong, but the Campbell camp has been silent.

During "Cutlergate", JC was on all the radio shows and on Sportsnite getting interviewed. Now there's silence.[/quote]


Harldy - The best thing for Campbells career would be to be traded to Minnesota or New York and he knows it.

CRedskinsRule 04-23-2009 03:45 PM

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[quote=tryfuhl;548788]If this was several months ago where it was thought that Sanchez might still be around at 13 you might have a point. We really don't have a lot of reason to hype Sanchez without being in a position to pick him, where's the benefit?[/quote]

If I remember the projections right a lot of beginning mocks had all the OT's and DE's being gone by the time it got to our pick at 13. If, by feigning interest in Sanchez, we put pressure on at least one team ahead of us to get him instead of a DE/OT, then we have a better chance of having a player of need fall to us, plus if the 2nd of 3 first round qb's go, we increase the chance of a qb hungry team trading up to get Freeman at our spot.

So a perfect scenario now, may be: Denver, worried we were going to take Sanchez, drafts him at 12, then New York, thinking we are dissatisfied enough with Campbell to take Freeman, trades with us at 13 giving us there 1st and 2nd or 3rd to get Freeman. Thus we would have leveraged our supposed disinterest in JC to having multiple picks, and getting Mack, or another quality player that feels an area of need.

MTK 04-23-2009 03:53 PM

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[quote=Soup's Uncle;548782]Man, if these aren't all smoke screens, Jason Campbell has to be hating life.

But what if JC is in on this and it is a smoke screen? I haven't heard anything from Jason Campbell since the Cutler issue. Since then, no one has interviewed Campbell. I could be wrong, but the Campbell camp has been silent.

During "Cutlergate", JC was on all the radio shows and on Sportsnite getting interviewed. Now there's silence.[/quote]

At this point JC is probably just in "F it" mode. It's out of his hands, not much he can do about anything.

Superman13732 04-23-2009 03:53 PM

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As much as I would love to see us dump Campbell, we have other, much more pressing needs. if we don't get a DE, then we aren't going to see the full return on Haynesworths 100 mil. (If its even possible to get a full return). And what about the entire right side of our O-line? And someone please tell me we are bringing Marcus back.

Soup's Uncle 04-23-2009 03:53 PM

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That would be a dream scenario to pick up a late 1st & a second or 3rd for our pick. A boy can dream...

SC Skins Fan 04-23-2009 03:56 PM

Re: Mark Sanchez at 13th?
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;548798]If I remember the projections right a lot of beginning mocks had all the OT's and DE's being gone by the time it got to our pick at 13. If, by feigning interest in Sanchez, we put pressure on at least one team ahead of us to get him instead of a DE/OT, then we have a better chance of having a player of need fall to us, plus if the 2nd of 3 first round qb's go, we increase the chance of a qb hungry team trading up to get Freeman at our spot.

So a perfect scenario now, may be: Denver, worried we were going to take Sanchez, drafts him at 12, then New York, thinking we are dissatisfied enough with Campbell to take Freeman, trades with us at 13 giving us there 1st and 2nd or 3rd to get Freeman. Thus we would have leveraged our supposed disinterest in JC to having multiple picks, and getting Mack, or another quality player that feels an area of need.[/quote]

That is one of the better scenarios, though I don't think Denver goes QB with either of their picks and I think Sanchez goes before #12. But the logic still holds, I suspect you are giving the F.O. too much cred, but we can hope.


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