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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;644250]did sellers play?[/quote]

technically he dressed and was on the feild but i wouldn't call what he did playing football

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[quote=Beemnseven;644251]Yeah, after watching Malcolm Kelly, I can honestly say that he's one player Allen would release and not think twice about it.[/quote]
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Agreed, I think Kelly is gone for sure. I still wonder if the Skins won't get rid of someone they can get quality picks for, a la a Cooley or someone like that.
While I like Ganther, we do need a big bruising back to compliment his talents. Of course an Offensive Line would be nice too.

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Kelly is a waste of roster space. Get a guy from a program that runs the spread or pro style offense.

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[QUOTE=TheSmurfs22;644258]~~~
Agreed, I think Kelly is gone for sure. I still wonder if the Skins won't get rid of someone they can get quality picks for, a la a Cooley or someone like that.
While I like Ganther, we do need a big bruising back to compliment his talents. Of course an Offensive Line would be nice too.[/QUOTE]

i doubt we get rid of Cooley man.

Jersey Sales would drop dramaticly.

ala why i dont think we get rid of CP or CC

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[quote=GusFrerotte;644262]Kelly is a waste of roster space. Get a guy from a program that runs the spread or pro style offense.[/quote]

He's taking play time from Marko Mitchell.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;644256]Don't worry Wilso,

A lot of folks drank the Zorny Kool Aid. I wasn't one of them only for the reason that I hate the WCO, but I gave the guy the benefit of the doubt. WE have a good 3-5 seasons of team building before we get a decent winner.[/quote]

I hate to admit it, but it might have to start with picking a QB. At this point I'm 50-50 when it comes to our first pick.

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[quote=Skins4L;644265]i doubt we get rid of Cooley man.

Jersey Sales would drop dramaticly.

ala why i dont think we get rid of CP or CC[/quote]
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Good point about jersey sales. I see us keeping Cooley before CP at least at this point.

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I just think we need another playmaker on offense. A true weapon.

After the OL is addressed. Its Big Play RB time.

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[quote=TheSmurfs22;644271]~~~~
Good point about jersey sales. I see us keeping Cooley before CP at least at this point.[/quote]

yea def

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[quote=Dirtbag359;644269]I hate to admit it, but it might have to start with picking a QB. At this point I'm 50-50 when it comes to our first pick.[/quote]
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Personally, I think Jason should stick around. The guy has been running for his life this season. Until we begin addressing our offensive line, it does not matter who we bring in, they will get beat down just like Campbell. Who knows what Allen will do, but I think tonight he saw just how much help we need with our line.

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[quote=TheSmurfs22;644271]~~~~
Good point about jersey sales. I see us keeping Cooley before CP at least at this point.[/quote]

I think the ppl that are smoking crack about a Cooley trade forget that he's been on IR and had surgery. Don't see many teams taking a risk on that.

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[quote=SmootSmack;644243]What's he saying? I turned the tv off[/quote]

He was laughing for a good 30 seconds about the botched trick play at the end of the half and mocking Zorn incessantly. He was laughing at Millen's suggestion that the Redskins would come out and fight the Cowboys. His words weren't particularly outrageous or inflammatory; he just kept going on and on, laughing at the Redskins, scoffing at the notion that they are not as bad as they looked tonight, and seemingly taking joy in ridiculing them. As a Redskins fan, it was just painful to hear a HoF quarterback talk about the Redskins as though they are a total joke.

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;644282]He was laughing for a good 30 seconds about the botched trick play at the end of the half and mocking Zorn incessantly. He was laughing at Millen's suggestion that the Redskins would come out and fight the Cowboys. His words weren't particularly outrageous or inflammatory; he just kept going on and on, laughing at the Redskins, scoffing at the notion that they are not as bad as they looked tonight, and seemingly taking joy in ridiculing them. As a Redskins fan, it was just painful to hear a HoF quarterback talk about the Redskins as though they are a total joke.[/quote]

I think it's worst that Matt Millen was trying to defend us.

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[quote=Skins4L;644275]I just think we need another playmaker on offense. A true weapon.

After the OL is addressed. Its Big Play RB time.[/quote]

I was thinking about this today. It's pretty simple really -- the top teams in the league right now have dynamic, game-changing playmakers.

We have none. Devin Thomas might be a playmaker. Davis might be. Santana Moss has been basically eliminated by opposing defenses this year. That's about it -- nothing proven, just high hopes for a player or two here and there. With an offensive line worth a crap, I guess you could say we'd be better, but I still don't think there's anyone truly dynamic even with solid O-line play.

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I quit!

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[quote=Zorn on the 4th of July;644207]Zorn's explanation for the end-of-half play was staggeringly dumb. Unreal.[/quote]

I still can't figure out what the play was supposed to be.

At least we're trying to make it fun in a losing effort...I guess.

Seriously, WHAT WAS THAT!!!???!!!???

I had no idea a formation like that was even legal.

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[quote=Zorn on the 4th of July;643752]Let's go to the shotgun exclusively. This is getting dangerous.[/quote]

Dangerous is Rabach's shotgun snaps. He can't do it.

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tonight was just pit-i-ful!

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[quote=Redskins8588;644023]I am saving Buster, good dogs are hard to come by...[/quote]
[B]
Just saw this.[/B]
[B]
Thank you.[/B]

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[quote=Ruhskins;644284]I think it's worst that Matt Millen was trying to defend us.[/quote]

So true. Actually I'm still waiting for Vinny to sign on with ESPN so they can start a segment called "Executive Vice President of Football Operations Corner with Matt Millen and Vinny Cerrato."

Today Vinny and Matt debate about how the Rams should use the first overall pick.

Matt: Actually Vinny and I agree that they need to draft a reciever with that pick.

Vinny: Definitley Matt, as you already know, it's a passing game and recievers are the reason teams win Super Bowls.

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;644282]He was laughing for a good 30 seconds about the botched trick play at the end of the half and mocking Zorn incessantly. He was laughing at Millen's suggestion that the Redskins would come out and fight the Cowboys. His words weren't particularly outrageous or inflammatory; he just kept going on and on, laughing at the Redskins, scoffing at the notion that they are not as bad as they looked tonight, and seemingly taking joy in ridiculing them. As a Redskins fan, it was just painful to hear a HoF quarterback talk about the Redskins as though they are a total joke.[/quote]
Yeah -- he also said that the Skins need to blow it up and do a complete overhaul, paraphrased.

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Does any one think this game may have been a test for Jim Zorn. Do you think Bruce Allen gave Zorn the go ahead to call plays the whole game. I think Bruce let Zorn run the team as any way he sees fit. I think Zorn had three games to show Bruce what he was worth and Zorn truelly shit the bed. if the next two games go completely down the drain as this one did, it will most likely be that Bruce gave Zorn enough rope to hang himself.

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What if tonights offensive, offense was a result of Bruce Allen giving back the play calling responsibilities to JZ for the final 3 weeks as a fair evaluation period for JZ to blow him away and keep his job.

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[quote=dgw090767;644388]What if tonights offensive offense was a result of Bruce Allen giving back the play calling responsibilities to JZ for the final 3 weeks as a fair evaluation period for JZ to blow him away and keep his job.[/quote]

If this is the case JZ has really cemented the outcome of him being fired. He showed once again his poor game management skills.

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[quote=AYJAX;644387]Does any one think this game may have been a test for Jim Zorn. Do you think Bruce Allen gave Zorn the go ahead to call plays the whole game. I think Bruce let Zorn run the team as any way he sees fit. I think Zorn had three games to show Bruce what he was worth and Zorn truelly shit the bed. if the next two games go completely down the drain as this one did, it will most likely be that Bruce gave Zorn enough rope to hang himself.[/quote]

If this was the case I agree that JZ threw up all over himself like a due that went on an all night bender and then finds out he can't hold his liquor.

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[quote=Angry;644319]I quit![/quote]

I'm right there with ya.

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;644031]Brandon Jacobs is secretly the biggest piece of shit in NFL. In both games this season he's started fights and he flops and taunts and just acts like a little fucking elementary school bully who starts shit but avoids the punishment. Not that it matters, but I hope the NFL hits him with a heavy fine.[/quote]

THANK YOU!!!! "elementary school bully" nails it right on the head! he pushes people around but when the whistles blow his finger starts pointing in all different directions. HE is one of the MAIN reasons i hate the giants.

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For all of the Jim Zorn apologists this horrific display was his signature game.

If I was the owner, I would fire him now and let Gray or Blache be the interim coach. This should have been done when the castrated him earlier in the year.

I am sick and tired of seeing him in our colors and he should have been escorted out of the building after the fake field goal.

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Btw... That officiating during Jacobs' meltdown was pathetic. He had at least 3 separate personal fouls and should have been thrown out for two of them. That being said, Al probably should have been thrown out too.

We need to put a $100,000 bounty on him. I am sick of his BS. Send one of our journeymen straight at his knees in the pile.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;644439]Btw... That officiating during Jacobs' meltdown was pathetic. He had at least 3 separate personal fouls and should have been thrown out for two of them. That being said, Al probably should have been thrown out too.

We need to put a $100,000 bounty on him. I am sick of his BS. Send one of our journeymen straight at his knees in the pile.[/quote]

Good post. He should have been ejected period. Maybe Al too, but I can't believe the refs didn't even flagged Jacobs.

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I love how Jacobs says he didn't throw a punch. Funny but I saw him swing at least twice. I'm sure the league will disagree with his take on the situation too.

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How about that stat from Jaws last night: 24% of the Redskins passes have been behind the line of scrimmage; 79% within 10 yards. Yay!!...sigh

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[quote=SmootSmack;644490]How about that stat from Jaws last night: 24% of the Redskins passes have been behind the line of scrimmage; 79% within 10 yards. Yay!!...sigh[/quote]

three words for you... west coast offense

one more word from me... gay

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[quote=Mattyk;644486]I love how Jacobs says he didn't throw a punch. Funny but I saw him swing at least twice. I'm sure the league will disagree with his take on the situation too.[/quote]

The guy was pummeling Hall to the ground (reminds me of that non-call on Harrison during last year's Super Bowl, he did the same thing against an AZ defensive back).

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;644428]For all of the Jim Zorn apologists this horrific display was his signature game.

If I was the owner, I would fire him now and let Gray or [B]Blache be the interim coach.[/B] This should have been done when the castrated him earlier in the year.

I am sick and tired of seeing him in our colors and he should have been escorted out of the building after the fake field goal.[/quote]

Yeah Blache has done a helluva job. :doh: Zorn gets the blame when we lose, Lewis gets the credit when we win, Blache gets a free ride for a horrible defense that received our #1 pick in the draft and the 100 million dollar FA. This team has been dysfuntional at the top for 10 years. Peyton Manning would have a hard time playing behind this line and, [B]under the same circumstances[/B], Lombardi himself would have a hard time getting anything done.

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[quote=53Fan;644535]Yeah Blache has done a helluva job. :doh: Zorn gets the blame when we lose, Lewis gets the credit when we win, Blache gets a free ride for a horrible defense that received our #1 pick in the draft and the 100 million dollar FA. This team has been dysfuntional at the top for 10 years. Peyton Manning would have a hard time playing behind this line and, [B]under the same circumstances[/B], Lombardi himself would have a hard time getting anything done.[/quote]

They should fire Zorn and Blache, put old man Sherm as HC, the other Sherman as OC, and Gray as DC.

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I think I'll be fine if I don't see the burgundy on burgundy ever again. 0-3 now. I actually loved the idea at first, but now it sickens me.

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Perhaps a hockey analogy is in order

To quote MileHighHockey.com after the Caps blew out the Avs recently
"One Sentence Recap Style:

The Avalanche laid a turd on the ice last night in the shape of a Hot Pocket"

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[quote=SmootSmack;644490]How about that stat from Jaws last night: 24% of the Redskins passes have been behind the line of scrimmage; 79% within 10 yards. Yay!!...sigh[/quote]

Yes, that was a disconcerting stat. Maybe next year we'll have an o-line and discover the joy of midrange or (gasp) even deep throws.

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[quote=53Fan;644535]Yeah Blache has done a helluva job. :doh: Zorn gets the blame when we lose, Lewis gets the credit when we win, Blache gets a free ride for a horrible defense that received our #1 pick in the draft and the 100 million dollar FA. This team has been dysfuntional at the top for 10 years. Peyton Manning would have a hard time playing behind this line and, [B]under the same circumstances[/B], Lombardi himself would have a hard time getting anything done.[/quote]

I am a big critic of Blache but my main goal is getting Zorn out of my sight. He literally disgusts me. I am focusing on who could steer us to the end of the season and give us somewhat of a professional look (which has been lacking during Zorn's entire tenure). Gray probably could too.

When they brought Lewis in I called for Bugel. I still think they should do it. Give Buges a couple of games on his farewell tour. He isn't going to be back next year.