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Well, AH may have really stepped (further) in it now. The fact that this guy has now made reference to his alleged contractural slavery is absolutely unbelievable. In that one sentence I believe he single handedly ruined whatever hope he may have had of being respected as a human, much less a professional athlete. Whatever the powers-that-be within the Redskins org decide to do in terms of making this douche suffer this season is all right with me. He deserves...nothing.

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[quote=Dlyne8r;738504]Well, AH may have really stepped (further) in it now. The fact that this guy has now made reference to his alleged contractural slavery is absolutely unbelievable. In that one sentence I believe he single handedly ruined whatever hope he may have had of being respected as a human, much less a professional athlete. Whatever the powers-that-be within the Redskins org decide to do in terms of making this douche suffer this season is all right with me. He deserves...nothing.[/quote]

The article truncates part of the interview. Snyder and Cerrato deserve blame for making promises they couldn't keep. Haynesworth pretty much conveys the idea that he wasn't going to ink the contract without a [verbal] agreement that he was going to be used the way he was in Tennessee, as his comments in context indicates.

[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2010/09/haynesworth_says_there_is_zero.html#more]D.C. Sports Bog - Haynesworth says there are "zero distractions"[/url]

[quote]"I guess in this world we don't have a lot of people with backbones," he said. "Just because somebody pay you money don't mean they'll make you do whatever they want. I mean, that means everything is for sale. I mean, I'm not for sale. Yeah, I signed the contract and got paid a lot of money, but just because, that don't mean I'm for sale or a slave or whatever. [B]We agreed upon coming to that [contract] that I'd play defensive tackle and not nose guard and all that other stuff. I was signing with a 4-3 team.[/B] It was a lot of promises and stuff like that, but now, it's been better, dealing with Haslett, and we run a lot of 4-3 stuff and you'll see that tomorrow."[/quote]

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[quote=Dlyne8r;738504]Well, AH may have really stepped (further) in it now. The fact that this guy has now made reference to his alleged contractural slavery is absolutely unbelievable. In that one sentence I believe he single handedly ruined whatever hope he may have had of being respected as a human, much less a professional athlete. Whatever the powers-that-be within the Redskins org decide to do in terms of making this douche suffer this season is all right with me. He deserves...nothing.[/quote]

This guy said nothing, what sentence? The one where he is being honest? Yes it has been dramatic around him, but he has only spoke to the media a handful of times.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;738507]The article truncates part of the interview. Snyder and Cerrato deserve blame for making promises they couldn't keep. Haynesworth pretty much conveys the idea that he wasn't going to ink the contract without a [verbal] agreement that he was going to be used the way he was in Tennessee, as his comments in context indicates.

[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2010/09/haynesworth_says_there_is_zero.html#more]D.C. Sports Bog - Haynesworth says there are "zero distractions"[/url][/quote]

Sometimes he makes it so hard to love him.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;738499]Scud, did you write this article?

[url=http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Redskins-Haynesworth-uncertain-for-Sundays-game-85387595]Haynesworth says contract doesn't make him 'slave' - NFL News - FOX Sports on MSN[/url]

It couldn't be further from the truth but that is today's media...[/quote]

This is what you call. "A crock of shit"

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So basically he said - you can pay me to do a job but I'm not going to do the job unless we do it my way and I will be paid in advance.
What freakin planet is this guy from?

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[quote=warpaint;738510]This is what you call. "A crock of shit"[/quote]

What bothers me is that you have to listen to the interview before you come to an opinion. Obviously, the author of the AP story has an agenda just like most of the people who write about Haynesworth these days.

Here is what I took from the interview:

- AH was calm the whole time, even making a couple of jokes.

- While he probably should have said it differently, the "slave" quote was not referring to any current feelings toward the organization. He was trying to explain why he was upset with the team in the offseason (that when they were negotiating the team made some promises to him). The last time I checked, you aren't a bad person because you disagree with your employer on an issue.

- He promised that there are no locker room problems and that he has no issues with any teammates.

- He talked about why he used his trainer instead of going to the team offseason workouts.

- He confirmed, when asked, that he purchased TVs for the front office people who work for the Redskins (including equipment folks).

- He has no problems with coaches Shanahan or Haslett.

Basically, no matter what this guy does or says, the media is going to create a story and sensationalize it.

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[quote=Dlyne8r;738504]Well, AH may have really stepped (further) in it now. The fact that this guy has now made reference to his alleged contractural slavery is absolutely unbelievable. In that one sentence I believe he single handedly ruined whatever hope he may have had of being respected as a human, much less a professional athlete. Whatever the powers-that-be within the Redskins org decide to do in terms of making this douche suffer this season is all right with me. He deserves...nothing.[/quote]


You need to listen to the radio interview. The AP article is garbage.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;738516]So basically he said - you can pay me to do a job but I'm not going to do the job unless we do it my way and I will be paid in advance.
What freakin planet is this guy from?[/quote]


He didn't say that at all.

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Thats exactly what he said.......Heres a quite from NFL.com

"I guess in this world we don't have a lot of people with, like, backbones," Haynesworth said. "Just because somebody pay you money don't mean they'll make you do whatever they want or whatever. I mean, does that mean everything is for sale?


The guy is a total fuktard.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;738523]Thats exactly what he said.......Heres a quite from NFL.com

"I guess in this world we don't have a lot of people with, like, backbones," Haynesworth said. "Just because somebody pay you money don't mean they'll make you do whatever they want or whatever. I mean, does that mean everything is for sale?


The guy is a total fuktard.[/quote]


Did you listen to the interview?

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What difference does it make, I read the transcript.
I really dont get how people can defend this idiot.
Worst Redskin ever.......

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[quote=Alvin Walton;738525]What difference does it make, I read the transcript.
I really dont get how people can defend this idiot.
Worst Redskin ever.......[/quote]

Because context is everything.

So he is the worst Redskin ever because he had an issue with the team in the offseason? He said he has no issues with the team, coaches or players now and that he likes the defense.

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An issue?
An issue?
You serioulsy want me to type out all the crap thats wrong with this guy.....?????
He's paid like he's a Tom Brady caliber player and he's not even a starter.
How the fox can you defend that?

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exactly. for 100 million, you should willingly take a mushroom stamp to the forehead every day of the week upon waking........

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[quote=Mechanix544;738533]exactly. for 100 million, you should willingly take a mushroom stamp to the forehead every day of the week upon waking........[/quote]

But he isn't making 100 million.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;738499]Scud, did you write this article?

[url=http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Redskins-Haynesworth-uncertain-for-Sundays-game-85387595]Haynesworth says contract doesn't make him 'slave' - NFL News - FOX Sports on MSN[/url]

It couldn't be further from the truth but that is today's media...[/quote]

I think Haynesworth will learn it's not wise to at any time use the word "slave" in an atempt to characterize or compare any uncomfortable situation that may arise in today's society. It's a very bad word for some, one they'd just as soon not embark upon.

Jesse Jackson recently met with the same set of circumstances in his comments about Dan Gilbert and the LeBron James situation. Experience should have taught him by now to leave that word alone.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;738535]But he isn't making 100 million.[/quote]


.........your arrogance is entertaining .

Haynsworth quote...."Haynesworth said it was agreed that he would play defensive tackle in a 4-3 system when he signed with the Redskins in 2009, but the team has since overhauled its front office, coaching staff and offensive and defensive schemes. He said he now likes the new scheme better as he works with defensive coordinator Jim Haslett."

So why is that,becuase he bitched and moaned about the D last year ,so they give him what he wants ....New coaches ,,,money and a all he has to do is play.....

Pocketts ...even Ray Charles can see this guy is a detriment to your team.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;738519]What bothers me is that you have to listen to the interview before you come to an opinion. Obviously, the author of the AP story has an agenda just like most of the people who write about Haynesworth these days.

Here is what I took from the interview:

- AH was calm the whole time, even making a couple of jokes.

- While he probably should have said it differently, the "slave" quote was not referring to any current feelings toward the organization. He was trying to explain why he was upset with the team in the offseason (that when they were negotiating the team made some promises to him). The last time I checked, you aren't a bad person because you disagree with your employer on an issue.

- He promised that there are no locker room problems and that he has no issues with any teammates.

- He talked about why he used his trainer instead of going to the team offseason workouts.

- He confirmed, when asked, that he purchased TVs for the front office people who work for the Redskins (including equipment folks).

- He has no problems with coaches Shanahan or Haslett.

Basically, no matter what this guy does or says, the media is going to create a story and sensationalize it.[/quote]

I agree he also said he and Shanny are on good terms even after the whole headache deal. Shanny thought AH was going to explain his condition to the media. The media will do blow it up for readers like Alvin.

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[quote=Mechanix544;738533]exactly. for 100 million, you should willingly take a mushroom stamp to the forehead every day of the week upon waking........[/quote]

Sorry, I don't see how someone getting a ton money suddenly loses the right to air any grievances whatsoever. The extraneous verbal agreements were violated, and hence I do not see how receiving money suddenly means that people can break their assurances on the receiver of the money. Taken strictly, it means that only those relatively poorer deserve to have promises kept.

I can see why in Albert's case, his exercise of such right is not well justified, as he overstepped the bounds by not attending mandatory camp.

But even so, receiving money is not synonymous with receiving goodwill or generosity. It's receiving the ability to buy goods and services. Hence, the general moral principle you and bunch of other are using is suspect at best.

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I dont believe a word he says anymore.
He promises there are no locker room distractions?
Oh really?
He represents the thoughts and feelings of the whole team?
pffffttttt
The guy is a second string tool, screw him.

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One thing that will be beneficial to Haynesworth as he continues his atempt to unravel what has happened to him in this...... what he has described as "a very unsual year" is to always be mindful of the history of the league in which he plays. As long as he remembers that, he'll be just fine.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;738557]I dont believe a word he says anymore.
He promises there are no locker room distractions?
Oh really?
He represents the thoughts and feelings of the whole team?
pffffttttt
The guy is a second string tool, screw him.[/quote]

Other players have said the same thing. Whether they and Albert using "coach-speak" or not, that is what they the public to view it as.

That said, athletes are not religious agents. So long as he doesn't slack off in front of them, they really wouldn't give a crap because there isn't time for them to flesh out a moral treatise against Albert.

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Yea, he'll be remembering it while he plays for Al Davis next year.
:Flush:

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[quote=Giantone;738549].........your arrogance is entertaining .

Haynsworth quote...."Haynesworth said it was agreed that he would play defensive tackle in a 4-3 system when he signed with the Redskins in 2009, but the team has since overhauled its front office, coaching staff and offensive and defensive schemes. He said he now likes the new scheme better as he works with defensive coordinator Jim Haslett."

So why is that,becuase he bitched and moaned about the D last year ,so they give him what he wants ....New coaches ,,,money and a all he has to do is play.....

Pocketts ...even Ray Charles can see this guy is a detriment to your team.[/quote]

First of all his contract is worth 100 mill he hasn't made yet. I forgot the Giants are a well run team Rolle, Jacobs. Our drama is brought to you by the media with two line qoutes cherry picked out of a possible hundred. Now on the other hand your issues are blasted all over the radio and even thrown in to the stands.

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Haynesworth haters know nothing...NOTHING...about football.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;738565]Yea, he'll be remembering it while he plays for Al Davis next year.
:Flush:[/quote]

Keep it real and your head out of that bowl. Albert may be in there.

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[quote=Longtimefan;739092]Keep it real and your head out of that bowl. Albert may be in there.[/quote]

Walton's analysis is right up there with Sam Huff's. At least Huff played at a high level.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;739067]Haynesworth haters know nothing...NOTHING...about football.[/quote]


...............and you do?Ok, explain the play where St Louis score to make it 21-16,big AH was in there tell us what happen ?

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[quote=warpaint;738568]First of all his contract is worth 100 mill he hasn't made yet. I forgot the Giants are a well run team Rolle, Jacobs. Our drama is brought to you by the media with two line qoutes cherry picked out of a possible hundred. Now on the other hand your issues are blasted all over the radio and even thrown in to the stands.[/quote]


LOL...................start a thread an we will discuss them also you might want to see and read my post ......I have made no comments about your team ,your coach or your ownership if you want me to defend what those idiots did ....not going to happen.

Oh and radio.....is media , so the same people you and pocketts say lie about players are also the same one ones bringing you the Giants info.....hehe what a predicament.

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[quote=Giantone;739931]LOL...................start a thread an we will discuss them also you might want to see and read my post .....[B].I have made no comments about your team ,your coach or your ownership if you want me to defend what those idiots did ....not going to happen.
[/B]
Oh and radio.....is media , so the same people you and pocketts say lie about players are also the same one ones bringing you the Giants info.....hehe what a predicament.[/quote]

Seriously are you guys going to make me side with a Giants fan on a Redskin forum? C'mon Man!

Still I must say that I feel that the Redskins coaching staff is being foolish by refusing to play Haynesworth more then a handful of plays. Right now our NT Kemoeatu, who I still believe isn't fully recovered from a torn achilies, only has one direction and thats backwards. Haynesworth, in spite of all his problems at least gets a push up the middle. In fact even if he gets blown out his gap, he's still quick enough to recover. We keep on talking about acquiring a difference maker on the D-Line during the offseason but the fact of the matter is we have one on our team right now.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;739067]Haynesworth haters know nothing...NOTHING...about football.[/quote]

Tell me how his performance yesterday justifies his contract and his spot on the roster?
We could also discuss his stats from yesterday.
Oh wait, he didnt have any.......

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;739067]Haynesworth haters know nothing...NOTHING...about football.[/quote]

:Smoker::headbange:bs::laughing-:laughing-:rofl::rofl::stop::banghead::rolleyes:

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[quote=Dirtbag359;739932]Seriously are you guys going to make me side with a Giants fan on a Redskin forum? C'mon Man!

Still I must say that I feel that the Redskins coaching staff is being foolish by refusing to play Haynesworth more then a handful of plays. Right now our NT Kemoeatu, who I still believe isn't fully recovered from a torn achilies, only has one direction and thats backwards. Haynesworth, in spite of all his problems at least gets a push up the middle. In fact even if he gets blown out his gap, he's still quick enough to recover. We keep on talking about acquiring a difference maker on the D-Line during the offseason but the fact of the matter is we have one on our team right now.[/quote]

Ah is better than the guys on the Dline but that's really not saying much cause the guys that are currently playing are terrible.

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Wow...Apparently,it's not the Lions like myself and many thought...

It's Carolina....
[url=http://www.redskinspost.com/2010/09/should-the-redskins-trade-for-panthers-wr-steve-smith.html/]Should the Redskins trade for Panthers WR Steve Smith? | Redskins Post[/url]
[QUOTE][B]Should the Redskins trade for Panthers WR Steve Smith[/B]?

According to the Charlotte Observer, Carolina Panthers WR Steve Smith could be on the trade block, if so, should the Washington Redskins trade for him? I say the Redskins should do it in a heartbeat. The Carolina Panthers are a terrible team this year and the organization is in disarray. John Fox is finishing out his contract and most likely will be gone at the end of the season and they are starting a rookie quarterback, Jimmy Clausen, under center. It makes sense for the Panthers, an organization no where near sniffing the playoffs this year or most likely next, to get what value they can for the veteran and move forward with their rebuilding plans.

The benefit for the Washington Redskins is two-fold. First, Smith is under contract for two years, unlike Vincent Jackson who would have been a one year rental and was demanding a big time, long term contract. Second, it’s obvious that the Redskins need play makers on offense. Smith is unhappy in Carolina, and at the age of 31, realizes he might be running out of chances to return to the playoffs, especially with the Carolina Panthers. Smith only has 11 receptions this season. That is not an endorsement of his playing skills decreasing, it simply reflects how poor the Panthers offense has been so far.

I would imagine that Smith could be had for a fourth round pick. This would be a move that would be smart for the Redskins.

Better yet, I realize player for player trades are rare in the NFL but how about Albert Haynesworth for Steve Smith? [/QUOTE]

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Good ****ing god, how many players with a 3-year expiration date do we need?

Not to mention Shanahan DOES KNOW how to snatch WR talent(see B. Marshall, E. Royal, R. Smith, E. Mccaffery) from the draft and scrapheap.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;740727]Good ****ing god, how many players with a 3-year expiration date do we need?

Not to mention Shanahan DOES KNOW how to snatch WR talent(see B. Marshall, E. Royal, R. Smith, E. Mccaffery) from the draft and scrapheap.[/quote]

If the Panthers take a 4th rounder for Steve Smith **** yeah I do it.

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We don't need another small WR.. We already have Moss who's pretty small and fast.. Smith, although is much stronger than Moss.. I think we need a tall WR to win jump-ball catches to take some heat off from Moss..

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[quote=GridIron26;740739]We don't need another small WR.. We already have Moss who's pretty small and fast.. Smith, although is much stronger than Moss.. I think we need a tall WR to win jump-ball catches to take some heat off from Moss..[/quote]

I've seen Steve Smith win jump balls. Also, what is this obsession with tall WRs? We need playmakers. Steve Smith is a playmaker. If we can have him for a 4th rounder why not?

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Right now I'd take a medium pizza and a 2 litre of Orange Crush for him.