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[quote=81forHOF;799866]Best available
DeAndre McDaniel SS Clemson
Mark Herlich OLB BC
Terrance Tolliver WR LSU
Jeremy Beal OLB Oak

Best O linemen avaiable

Kristopher O'Dowd C S Cal - we should grab him
Justin Boren G Ohio St
DJ Young OT Mich St
[B]Lee Ziemba OT Auburn[/B][/quote]

a sleeper; thought he'd be gone by now

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Some of the picks I'd change ....

RB Jordan Todman over RB Evan Royster...

and FLA S Ahmad Black over Neb S Gomes...

Watch video of the four and decide for yourselves... but Black was 2nd team All-AMERICAN... Gomes didn't even start for his team & if anyone has seen Todman run... man that guy is awesome... ran for almost 1,700yds and 14 TDs this past year... refuses to go down and he has a great demeanor and back story.

Each were available when we selected the other.

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[quote=Hail to the Redskins;799871]Some of the picks I'd change ....

RB Jordan Todman over RB Evan Royster...

and FLA S Ahmad Black over Neb S Gomes...

Watch video of the four and decide for yourselves... but Black was 2nd team All-AMERICAN... Gomes didn't even start for his team & if anyone has seen Todman run... man that guy is awesome... refuses to go down and he has a great demeanor and back story.

Each were available when we selected the other.[/quote]

Some teams picked guys who weren't even in the NFL's database. ;)

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DE Markus White from Fla St. - 8 Sacks, 12.5 TFL in 2010

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[quote=Hail to the Redskins;799873]DE Markus White from Fla St. - 8 Sacks, 12.5 TFL in 2010[/quote]

Too small to be a 3-4 DE, too slow to be an OLB. Unless he can really bulk up, he should disappoint.

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[quote=Hail to the Redskins;799871]Some of the picks I'd change ....

RB Jordan Todman over RB Evan Royster...

and FLA S Ahmad Black over Neb S Gomes...

Watch video of the four and decide for yourselves... but Black was 2nd team All-AMERICAN... Gomes didn't even start for his team & if anyone has seen Todman run... man that guy is awesome... ran for almost 1,700yds and 14 TDs this past year... refuses to go down and he has a great demeanor and back story.

Each were available when we selected the other.[/quote]

I totally agree. I was going to post the same thing after both of those picks.
Shanny knows what he likes in RBs so i will give him the benefit

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Markus White's good, but we already have one in Kerrigan..UGHHH come on Redskins take a chance on a center or Mark Herzlich or Jeff Mahael

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[url=http://www.seminoles.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/white_markus00.html#_]Player Bio: Markus White[/url]

Bio says he has a "relentless motor". I supposed the plan is to fatten him up for 3-4 DE? Or is it OLB?

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What I found on DE Markus White...

While we’re on the subject of White’s Combine and Pro Day results, let’s take a look back at them:
At the Combine he had a 4.86 40-yard time, and a 4.82 time at his Pro Day. Before either event, White had gotten as low as 4.59. It is possible that he could play faster than he tests; one reason you can’t put too much stock into the drills and tests at combine-style events. They’re good barometers of a players’ skill, but the best at gauging his potential is actually watching him play.
On the bench, he threw up 225 pounds 14 and 15 times at the Combine and Pro Day, respectively.
~Like we mentioned before, those numbers aren’t going to wow too many scouts. But, he shouldn’t let them get him down. Judging from White’s play his senior season, he could become a late-round addition that ultimately pans out for someone’s team. During his lone season in defensive coordinator Mark Stoops’ 4-3 defense, White had 64 total tackles, 12.5 for loss and 8.0 sacks. Very solid numbers for a player who was in the midst of learning a brand new scheme as he was beginning to depart college.

~One of the intangibles a team could take away from White’s senior season is that he has good football sense. He can adapt to changing defenses and different play calls. It’s clear he didn’t stumble upon eight sacks by accident; clearly, he understood Stoops’ scheme and did so while maneuvering around some pretty good offensive lines. That’s one positive NFL teams may take away from White’s senior season.

~Another positive they could ultimately take away is the fact that White may very well have his best football ahead of him. A former transfer, he saw his production shoot up significantly across the three seasons he played at FSU. Being switched from safety to linebacker and ultimately to defensive end, he negotiated several changes during his time in Tallahassee. Although his training numbers probably earn a late-round selection, White’s potential should be enough to allow him to be drafted and have a true career.

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Wow, White started off as a safety, then switched to LB, then to DE?

Where's an eye-pop smiley?

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Heard he is "Good tackler who can deliver some violent blows. Plays hard and appears to be well conditioned. Has good intangibles and is a hard worker."
Smaller college DE that are not good pass rushers project well as ILB's in the NFL. Especially since this guys is a good tackler. Has an NFL body will play in special teams.

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Check this out on Markus White...

Came to FSU after earning JUCO All-American honors at Butler Community College...a five-star recruit by Rivals.com...was named the NJCAA national player of the year in his lone season at Butler, which went 12-0 and shared the national title after routing No. 1 Snow College...set the Butler record with 24.5 sacks which led the nation, as did his six forced fumbles...also amassed 97 tackles, of which 39 were behind the line of scrimmage.

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[quote=Defensewins;799880]Heard he is "Good tackler who can deliver some violent blows. Plays hard and appears to be well conditioned. Has good intangibles and is a hard worker."
Smaller college DE that are not good pass rushers project well as ILB's in the NFL. Especially since this guys is a good tackler.[/quote]

Did you write that last part correctly? ILB?

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I hope we use our last pick on that kicker ALEX HENERY.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;799882]Did you write that last part correctly? ILB?[/quote]

Yep. Teddi Bruschi is one. A small in size college DE that was drafted and immediately switched to ILB. Bruschi was drafted to play ILB even though he had never played there.

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[quote=soul-skins;799883]i hope we use our last pick on that kicker alex henery.[/quote]

An eagle snatched him a long time ago.

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wow Trent Dilfer just went off on the Hawks LOL..

Btw Trent acts like he was a god and he was pretty bad IMO

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[quote=SOUL-SKINS;799883]I hope we use our last pick on that kicker ALEX HENERY.[/quote]

Fine. Let's trade that pick to Philly and get Henery.

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I hope we use our last pick on Cam Newton

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Has the great Tyrod Taylor been drafted yet?

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White's combine 3-cone drill time is 7.25 sec, which is a tick better than Rak's pro day 3-cone drill time of 7.26 sec

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[quote=skinsfaninok;799889]Has the great Tyrod Taylor been drafted yet?[/quote]

Ravens.

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Wait Cam Newton is still avail. ??? Still think it's risky with the 2nd to last pick in the draft ..... Let's just get that kicker from Nebraska

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I'd say we've had a solid draft.. B+

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[quote=lotus;799891]ravens.[/quote]

C-O-N-T-R-A-V-E-R-S-Y. :D

Oh yes.

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Remember when we started this draft and we had 8 picks - no 3rd or 4th

[QUOTE]1 16 (16) Kerrigan, Ryan DE
(From Jaguars)
2 9 (41) Jenkins, Jarvis DL

3 15 (79) Hankerson, Leonard WR
(From Dolphins)
4 8 (105) Helu, Roy RB

5 15 (146) Gomes, Dejon DB
(From Dolphins)
5 24 (155) Paul, Niles WR
(From Saints)
6 12 (177) Royster, Evan RB

6 13 (178) Robinson, Aldrick WR
(From Texans)
7 10 (213) Thompson, Brandyn DB

7 14 (217) Hurt, Maurice OL
(From Dolphins)
7 21 (224) White, Markus DE
(From Colts)
7 50 (253) [/QUOTE]

Good draft lots of opportunities across the board. Hopefully Cook and Capers step up on the line.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;799886]wow Trent Dilfer just went off on the Hawks LOL..

Btw Trent acts like he was a god and he was pretty bad IMO[/quote]

I know. Dilfer is coming off as pretty arrogant. He was merely a serviceable QB.

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White is another one of those "captain" dudes. Seems like Shanny realizes that he needs some young leaders on the team, and that it would be useful for them to learn from experienced leaders like Fletch before they depart.

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granthpaulsen Grant Paulsen
#Redskins will have drafted 12 players after their final pick... the most they've taken in 7-RD format & team's most picks made since 1985.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;799886]wow Trent Dilfer just went off on the Hawks LOL..

Btw Trent acts like he was a god and he was pretty bad IMO[/quote]

Yeah, the Elvis Grabac-Ponder critique reaps of sour grapes. I like the Tim Hasselbeck approach. He self-depreciates but still provides solid analysis. I think Dilfer obviously knows his stuff but it would be nice to see some shots at his own career.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;799898]granthpaulsen Grant Paulsen
#Redskins will have drafted 12 players after their final pick... the most they've taken in 7-RD format & team's most picks made since 1985.[/quote]

Wow, 26 years?

26 YEARS, people.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;799898]granthpaulsen Grant Paulsen
#Redskins will have drafted 12 players after their final pick... the most they've taken in 7-RD format & team's most picks made since 1985.[/quote]


And we wonder why we have sucked

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[quote=Dirtbag59;799899]Yeah, the Elvis Grabac-Ponder critique reaps of sour grapes. I like the Tim Hasselbeck approach. He self-depreciates but still provides solid analysis. I think Dilfer obviously knows his stuff but it would be nice to see some shots at his own career.[/quote]

Talked to a BIG vikings fan today and he was furious with their draft especially Ponder. Still TD shouldn't call him out like that

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/30/jets-draft-mark-sanchezs-boyhood-friend/]Jets draft Mark Sanchez’s boyhood friend | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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pretty cool DAD AND SON were drafted 28th overall

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;799895]Remember when we started this draft and we had 8 picks - no 3rd or 4th



Good draft lots of opportunities across the board. [B]Hopefully Cook and Capers step up on the line.[/B][/quote]

Don't put a lot of faith in them..I think Davin Joseph and Ryan Harris could be Skins as soon as FA starts, along with Aubrayo Franklin, and Ike Taylor

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[quote=CultBrennan59;799906]Don't put a lot of faith in them..I think Davin Joseph and Ryan Harris could be Skins as soon as FA starts, along with Aubrayo Franklin, and [B]Ike Taylor[/B][/quote]

Might as well keep LOS

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[quote=CultBrennan59;799906]Don't put a lot of faith in them..I think Davin Joseph and Ryan Harris could be Skins as soon as FA starts, along with Aubrayo Franklin, and Ike Taylor[/quote]

Yes Lets just give up on our own drafted talent after 1 year, and go after high priced names. Great job Vinny.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;799906]Don't put a lot of faith in them..I think Davin Joseph and Ryan Harris could be Skins as soon as FA starts, along with [B]Aubrayo Franklin[/B], and Ike Taylor[/quote]

Franklin would be nice. Despite drafting Jenkins, our DL still needs work. We lack both a starter and young depth on the DL.