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celts32 02-08-2012 12:14 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
I think most of us believe that the skins will still add a rookie or 2 if they sign Manning but the real issue is how high a priority it will be. Will they still pursue high level prospect like RG3 or Tannehill as the future QB in waiting or will they throw a late round QB dart at the wall just to give the illusion that they are still thinking long term? Oh well...I need to see how the whole QB depth chart shapes up before I will be happy with this Manning signing that we appear headed towards...

DC Tailgate 02-08-2012 12:32 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
[quote=Mattyk;883324]I really don't think MS is that dumb to handcuff a guy like Manning.[/quote]

Agreed, but unfortunately I wouldn't put it past him either.

NC_Skins 02-08-2012 12:43 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
Good news for Smoot. Looks like some chatter this morning from the few ES insiders are saying the Skins [I]possibly[/I] looking into bringing Chase Daniel in for a backup role. Talk about going full circle.

edit: DAMN YOU SPELLING NAZI!!

SmootSmack 02-08-2012 12:46 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
[quote=NC_Skins;883336]Good news for Smoot. Looks like some chatter this morning from the few ES insiders are saying the Skins [I]possibly[/I] looking into bringing Chase Daniels in for a backup role. Talk about going full circle.[/quote]

I don't even care about Chase Daniels. Chase Daniel on the other hand...

Yeah one of my buddies told me about that rumor. Not sure if he saw it on ES. No idea where that's coming from. If it's due diligence or what. I know the Saints really like Sean Canfield but I don't think they'd let CD go easily.

But man, Manning, Chase and Ryan Tannehill! Sweeeet. Doubt it would happen though.

skinsfaninok 02-08-2012 12:51 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
I'm all for signing Manning I just don't think the Colts let him go.. Again he's PEYTON MANNING and sorry but A.Luck will not be Manning in his first 2 seasons

NC_Skins 02-08-2012 12:54 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
[quote=SmootSmack;883337]I don't even care about Chase Daniels. Chase Daniel on the other hand...

Yeah one of my buddies told me about that rumor. Not sure if he saw it on ES. No idea where that's coming from. If it's due diligence or what. I know the Saints really like Sean Canfield but I don't think they'd let CD go easily.

But man, Manning, Chase and Ryan Tannehill! Sweeeet. Doubt it would happen though.[/quote]

I think they mentioned he is one of many options they are exploring so it fits your suggestion of doing their due diligence. Just thought that would put a smile on your face. Now, if they could get Peyton, Chase and Matt Moore in here, I think your head would explode.

Ruhskins 02-08-2012 12:57 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
[quote=celts32;883329]I think most of us believe that the skins will still add a rookie or 2 if they sign Manning [B]but the real issue is how high a priority it will be.[/B] Will they still pursue high level prospect like RG3 or Tannehill as the future QB in waiting or will they throw a late round QB dart at the wall just to give the illusion that they are still thinking long term? Oh well...I need to see how the whole QB depth chart shapes up before I will be happy with this Manning signing that we appear headed towards...[/quote]

Good point, although I think they could consider trading down from the #6 spot and get more picks, allowing them to sign someone either later in the first or early in the second round.

The Goat 02-08-2012 12:58 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
[quote=Mattyk;883324]I really don't think MS is that dumb to handcuff a guy like Manning.[/quote]

I don't think Mike's intelligence is at issue either, in fact my bet is he's highly intelligent. It's the pride/ego thing holding him and his team(s) back IMO.

...hopefully the last two seasons humbled him a bit and IF Manning becomes a Skin we'll see Manning's offense, not Kyle's.

skinsguy 02-08-2012 01:03 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;883339]I'm all for signing Manning I just don't think the Colts let him go.. Again he's PEYTON MANNING and sorry but [B]A.Luck will not be Manning in his first 2 seasons[/B][/quote]

Neither was Peyton Manning in his first two seasons.

skinsguy 02-08-2012 01:06 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
[quote=celts32;883329]I think most of us believe that the skins will still add a rookie or 2 if they sign Manning but the real issue is how high a priority it will be. Will they still pursue high level prospect like RG3 or Tannehill as the future QB in waiting or will they throw a late round QB dart at the wall just to give the illusion that they are still thinking long term? Oh well...I need to see how the whole QB depth chart shapes up before I will be happy with this Manning signing that we appear headed towards...[/quote]

That would be something if the Redskins were able to secure both Peyton Manning and RGIII, but I think it's a one or the other type of deal. Really, what probably separates Luck and Griffin from the rest of the pack is that both appear to be starters from day one, while the others could be top notch quarterbacks after a couple of years of development. Which is why it makes most sense if we go the Manning route to pick up one of the other guys (Tannehill, Foles, Cousins, Moore.)

skinsfaninok 02-08-2012 01:07 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
[quote=skinsguy;883344]Neither was Peyton Manning in his first two seasons.[/quote]


exactly so why would they give up on an Elite QB for a rookie.. I could see them doing what GB did or SF with Montana/Young

mooby 02-08-2012 01:14 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;883347]exactly so why would they give up on an Elite QB for a rookie.. I could see them doing what GB did or SF with Montana/Young[/quote]

Because the elite qb is in his mid 30's and is coming off health issues, whereas the rookie is in his early 20's and is touted as the best thing since that elite qb?

Lotus 02-08-2012 01:19 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
[quote=mooby;883349]Because the elite qb is in his mid 30's and is coming off health issues, whereas the rookie is in his early 20's and is touted as the best thing since that elite qb?[/quote]

Plus the elite QB is scheduled to receive almost a quarter of the entire salary cap.

skinsfaninok 02-08-2012 01:21 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
Cap wise the Colts have already said the 28M is not an issue meaning they could afford it, also remember Luck won't get crazy Bradford money at the beginning.

skinsguy 02-08-2012 01:24 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;883347]exactly so why would they give up on an Elite QB for a rookie.. I could see them doing what GB did or SF with Montana/Young[/quote]

The Colts have already gutted the team and brought in a new regime all around. They have all but said they're moving on from Peyton Manning. Plus, Peyton is due $28 million by March 8th. At this point, they are building the team around Andrew Luck. That's why the Colts are willing to move Manning on to somewhere else.

SmootSmack 02-08-2012 01:29 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
I wouldn't totally write the Colts off, but it's a long shot

SBXVII 02-08-2012 01:34 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
Ok I didn't see anything in this thread for atleast 2 pages back but here is another article about P.Manning, apparently everyone in the NFL already thinks the Skins have him locked in. ....

[URL="http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/article_external/everyone_in_nfl_thinks_skins_sign_manning/9815917"]'Everyone in NFL' thinks Skins land Petyon Manning[/URL]

[QUOTE]Everyone” CBSSports’ Mike Freeman spoke to in the NFL believes the Skins will sign Peyton Manning if/when the future Hall of Famer hits free agency.

“And I mean just about everyone,” Freeman affirmed.
[/QUOTE]

Edit: Sorry, not "locked in" as in already have a deal in place but everyone believes the Skins are going to get him.

iRepDMV 02-08-2012 01:48 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
If Peyton Manning actually does come to DC, do you think we'll go after RG3 as well? ...and if we do go after RG3, do we trade up to the #2 pick to get him or hope he falls to 6?

Im actually starting to believe that its at least a 75% chance Peyton signs with the Skins with all these rumors floating around.

Chico23231 02-08-2012 01:57 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
[quote=iRepDMV;883362]If Peyton Manning actually does come to DC, do you think we'll go after RG3 as well? ...and if we do go after RG3, do we trade up to the #2 pick to get him or hope he falls to 6?

Im actually starting to believe that its at least a 75% chance Peyton signs with the Skins with all these rumors floating around.[/quote]

I wouldnt think so. I say we most likely go Tackle, CB or WR. RG3 is NOT falling to us.

SBXVII 02-08-2012 01:59 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
^ I don't know. Last night on the radio 106.7FM around 8:20pm I believe they were talking about our QB situation. They might have been referencing the Haslett article but they didn't elude to it. All they said was the Skins are not happy with the quality of QB's in the draft this year other then Luck and RGIII. Said rumor was they maybe thinking along the lines of picking up P.Manning or Orton this year, keeping Grossman as a backup, and possibly taking someone like Weeden. But their is either rumor or talk that the Skins may want to simply buy another year picking up OL to protect the QB and more weapons ie; WR's and next year go all in for Barkley. The rumor was MS and KS wanted to get Barkley this year and with Luck and RGIII most likely gone by #6 they might keep building the foundation so that next year they can bring in a Rookie QB (the one they wanted) and there won't be as big of a learning curve for them since the rest of the offensive players will already know the scheme and play calls.

SBXVII 02-08-2012 02:10 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
Wow, I didn't know Steve Young commented on P.Manning last week or about M.Shanahan....

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/post/steve-young-thinks-peyton-manning-to-the-redskins-is-a-fit/2012/02/08/gIQAY0pNzQ_blog.html?wprss=dc-sports-bog]Steve Young thinks Peyton Manning to the Redskins is a fit - DC Sports Bog - The Washington Post[/url]

[QUOTE]“I assume that by draft time, he’ll be a Washington Redskin, or, I don’t know what else.”

A bit later, he said this.

“I think it becomes a coach-quarterback relationship. It’s gonna be somebody [like] a Mike Shanahan. You look at those guys around that really understand quarterbacks, they’re gonna be able to take advantage of all Peyton’s talents, and then you need to be a team that doesn’t have an answer right now....I expect that the move will be a team that just needs that guy, that hasn’t had that guy, and Peyton will be that guy.”
[/QUOTE]

skinsfaninok 02-08-2012 02:15 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
So I'll get my PM jersey in a month or so

los panda 02-08-2012 02:28 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
i still wear my terry allen starter jersey with the nameplate removed by seam ripper. i won't buy another jersey until teams can choose their manufacturer and prices are competetive again. how much does a replica cost these days?

12thMan 02-08-2012 02:32 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
The Cards signed QB coach Frank Reich, Peyton's coach for the past 6 seasons. That is all.

skinsfaninok 02-08-2012 02:34 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
[quote=los panda;883372]i still wear my terry allen starter jersey with the nameplate removed by seam ripper. i won't buy another jersey until teams can choose their manufacturer and prices are competetive again. how much does a replica cost these days?[/quote]

replica prob around $65-90

authentic prob around $ 250-300

12thMan 02-08-2012 02:45 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
Shefter said they hired Reich as WR coach. That's odd.

SmootSmack 02-08-2012 02:48 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
[quote=12thMan;883380]Shefter said they hired Reich as WR coach. That's odd.[/quote]

That's what he was this past year in Indy

Lotus 02-08-2012 03:01 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
[quote=iRepDMV;883362]If Peyton Manning actually does come to DC, do you think we'll go after RG3 as well? ...and if we do go after RG3, do we trade up to the #2 pick to get him or hope he falls to 6?

Im actually starting to believe that its at least a 75% chance Peyton signs with the Skins with all these rumors floating around.[/quote]

I think that we won't trade up but we might nab him if he falls to #6, which is quite possible IMO.

I like the PM scenario where we trade down, nabbing an extra second round pick. Then before the end of the second round we use our three picks to draft a WR, an OT, and a QB for the future.

Mechanix544 02-08-2012 03:22 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
[quote=Lotus;883390]I think that we won't trade up but we might nab him if he falls to #6, which is quite possible IMO.

I like the PM scenario where we trade down, nabbing an extra second round pick. Then before the end of the second round we use our three picks to draft a WR, an OT, and a QB for the future.[/quote]

I like that plan. Get Manning, trade down, get Tannehill with our first rounder, Dwight Jones in the second round and instead of OL, id like to go secondary (CB) here with the acquired pick. Get a seasoned pro olineman in FA to protect Peyton Manning, not some second or third round rookie.

Mechanix544 02-08-2012 03:23 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
Plus, I believe our Oline is on the upswing, and will be even better this upcoming year than this past season. Jamaal Brown has to get better, I dont think he can do any worse than he did last year, plus, its an additional year in the system, with the opportunity to come into the year fully healthy and with a full offseason.

mbedner3420 02-08-2012 03:38 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
[quote=Mechanix544;883402]Plus, I believe our Oline is on the upswing, and will be even better this upcoming year than this past season. J[B]amaal Brown has to get better,[/B] I dont think he can do any worse than he did last year, plus, its an additional year in the system, with the opportunity to come into the year fully healthy and with a full offseason.[/quote]

I'm not so sure JB will be here next year. Or a starter on this team next year.

DC Tailgate 02-08-2012 04:02 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
I'm trying not to get excited, but I still am for some reason. 1) Already went through this with Prince Fielder & the Nationals last month and 2) we all know our reputations with FA's.

Call me a sucker.

skinsfaninok 02-08-2012 04:19 PM

Mark Weiss says the pats will keep hoyer.. interesting

SmootSmack 02-08-2012 04:25 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;883415]Mark Weiss says the pats will keep hoyer.. interesting[/quote]

Whatever. Who cares! I want Peyton and Chase now!!!!

But a top notch source told me we're getting Colt McCoy and Jordan Shipley anyway

The Goat 02-08-2012 04:28 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
[quote=SmootSmack;883417]Whatever. Who cares! I want Peyton and Chase now!!!!

[B]But a top notch source told me we're getting Colt McCoy and Jordan Shipley anyway[/B][/quote]

All my sources are saying this too! It's basically a done deal :)

Lotus 02-08-2012 04:29 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
[quote=SmootSmack;883417]Whatever. Who cares! I want Peyton and Chase now!!!!

But a top notch source told me we're getting Colt McCoy and Jordan Shipley anyway[/quote]

You are so evil. :)

BigHairedAristocrat 02-08-2012 04:49 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
the first post in this thread was truly epic. but hasnt 6.0 been replaced by 7.0? isnt it time to give this thread a proper viking flaming burial at sea?

Also, i'd like to go ahead and request that thread 9.0 be titled "The 9 lives of Rex Grossman, our 2012 Starting Quarterback!"

CrazyCanuck 02-08-2012 04:58 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;883422]the first post in this thread was truly epic. but hasnt 6.0 been replaced by 7.0? isnt it time to give this thread a proper viking flaming burial at sea?[/quote]

Yup I think 48 pages is plenty. On to the Apocalypse:
[URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/46554-qb-apocalypse-the-seventh-sign.html"]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/46554-qb-apocalypse-the-seventh-sign.html[/URL]

[IMG]http://wrathofnino.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/viking-funeral.jpg[/IMG]

SmootSmack 02-08-2012 04:59 PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 
Good point. Let's shut this one down


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