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[quote=Mattyk;890292]Change Redskins FO to fan base and you're spot on[/quote]

Hahahaha. Perhaps I've oversimplified how Front Offices evaluate talent.

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SS, given that FA is coming up soon, are you going to release a semi-comprehensive list of targets we are going to be actively pursuing? (probably better for another thread but I've already started typing)

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I agree Matty.

In fact I've gotten to the point where I just tune out or flat out ignore people that still say shit like, "Danny Boy" or compare the current front office to the any of the previous ones. Whether the Redskins overpay for RGIII, in our opinion, or get him for a decent value, I'm pretty sure it will be a well thought out decision and will make sense for the long-term success of the organization.

Bruce and Shanny are well aware of the other pressing needs facing this team and will stick to the overall framework to get us there, even if it means moving around some current pieces to recoup picks we lost acquiring RG.

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[quote=mbedner3420;890295]SS, given that FA is coming up soon, are you going to release a semi-comprehensive list of targets we are going to be actively pursuing? (probably better for another thread but I've already started typing)[/quote]

Hadn't planned on it. I mean I've kind of mentioned most of the names I've heard so far. But I suppose I could

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[quote=SmootSmack;890297]Hadn't planned on it. I mean I've kind of mentioned most of the names I've heard so far. But I suppose I could[/quote]

I thought you did one last season or did you just comb through JLC's list and make comments (in conjunction with the names you dropped throughout the lockout period)?

If you don't then perhaps I can ask Chico to dream one up this evening lol.

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It is kind of funny how people expect certain things from SS as though it is his primary job to fill us in on Redskins news.

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[quote=SmootSmack;890289]Cousins in particular.[/quote]

Cousins looked legit at the combine, his passes seemed to have a lot more velocity than other QBs he was throwing with, with accuracy to match.

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[quote=mredskins;890303]It is kind of funny how people expect certain things from SS as though it is his primary job to fill us in on Redskins news.[/quote]

I'm certainly not qualified to do it.

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[quote=mbedner3420;890299]I thought you did one last season or did you just comb through JLC's list and make comments (in conjunction with the names you dropped throughout the lockout period)?

If you don't then perhaps I can ask Chico to dream one up this evening lol.[/quote]

I don't think so.

I think Dirtbag might have done a "What Potential Draft Picks Have We Met With" that I assisted on.

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Mike Wise is pissing in our koolaid...

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/robert-griffin-iii-has-redskins-fans-heading-for-a-relapse/2012/02/29/gIQAtsxYiR_story.html]Robert Griffin III has Redskins, fans heading for a relapse - The Washington Post[/url]

I agree that maybe we are overhyping RG3 too much but come on. This line bugged me:

"Why not build up the offensive line, the receiving corps or find a shutdown corner and then go all-in for Barkley next year? He was thought to be a higher pick than RG III, after all, before he decided to return to Southern Cal."

You can make this argument every year! When do we finally get a QB????

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[quote=CrazyCanuck;890314]Mike Wise is pissing in our koolaid...

[URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/robert-griffin-iii-has-redskins-fans-heading-for-a-relapse/2012/02/29/gIQAtsxYiR_story.html"]Robert Griffin III has Redskins, fans heading for a relapse - The Washington Post[/URL]

I agree that maybe we are overhyping RG3 too much but come on. This line bugged me:

"Why not build up the offensive line, the receiving corps or find a shutdown corner and then go all-in for Barkley next year? He was thought to be a higher pick than RG III, after all, before he decided to return to Southern Cal."

You can make this argument every year! When do we finally get a QB????[/quote]

I never heard Barkley ever being rated higher then RG3.

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[quote=celts32;890293]Have a hard time believing Cousins is the young QB they have been waiting 3 years to get their hands on. Seems like settling to me and I don't want them to settle.[/quote]

Agreed. I don't mind getting Manning but getting him should not sidetrack us from also getting a stud developmental prospect for the long term. And to me Cousins is not a stud but rather is an NFL backup at best.

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[quote=CrazyCanuck;890314]Mike Wise is pissing in our koolaid...

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/robert-griffin-iii-has-redskins-fans-heading-for-a-relapse/2012/02/29/gIQAtsxYiR_story.html]Robert Griffin III has Redskins, fans heading for a relapse - The Washington Post[/url]

I agree that maybe we are overhyping RG3 too much but come on. This line bugged me:

"Why not build up the offensive line, the receiving corps or find a shutdown corner and then go all-in for Barkley next year? He was thought to be a higher pick than RG III, after all, before he decided to return to Southern Cal."

You can make this argument every year! When do we finally get a QB????[/quote]

The big problem I see, is we would be out of position to grab Barkley. The guy is mostly likely gonna go #1 and if we're in the mid teens for our pick, imagine the ammo we would need to move up. I think at 6 this year we're in a perfect position to grab an elite QB at near the top.

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Redskins have never been interested in Barkley anyway

RG3
Tannehill
Cousins

That appears to be the top 3 right now in order of rookie preference

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[quote=CrazyCanuck;890314]Mike Wise is pissing in our koolaid...

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/robert-griffin-iii-has-redskins-fans-heading-for-a-relapse/2012/02/29/gIQAtsxYiR_story.html]Robert Griffin III has Redskins, fans heading for a relapse - The Washington Post[/url]

I agree that maybe we are overhyping RG3 too much but come on. This line bugged me:

"Why not build up the offensive line, the receiving corps or find a shutdown corner and then go all-in for Barkley next year? He was thought to be a higher pick than RG III, after all, before he decided to return to Southern Cal."

You can make this argument every year! When do we finally get a QB????[/quote]

I disagree with Wise for several reasons, most notably because his logic is self-defeating. If we build as he suggests then we perhaps draft in the teens next year. Then it will be much farther to trade up for Jones and Barkley than it is to trade up for Griffin now.

It's like waiting to buy a house because it is expensive now even though you know that the house's price will rise dramatically while you wait.

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dumbass Cerrato was just on espn talking about the 2nd overall pick and us taking it, he thinks rg3 will end up with the browns.

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Yeah, why would we get Barkley. We can't get Luck and in my heart I believe we will lose out to the Dam Browns, for RG3. And we have a full deck of draft picks. The problem is always teams that suck always need a QB.

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[quote=SmootSmack;890323]Redskins have never been interested in Barkley anyway

RG3
Tannehill
Cousins

That appears to be the top 3 right now in order of rookie preference[/quote]

Love it! That's my preference order as well.

With the caveat that, if we can't get RG3, that we draft Tannehill & Cousins to hedge our bets (if possible).

I have a lot of faith in Cousins as a potential leader of a franchise. Impressive young man...and a Spartan.

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[quote=SmootSmack;890323]Redskins have never been interested in Barkley anyway

RG3
Tannehill
Cousins

That appears to be the top 3 right now in order of rookie preference[/quote]
It really bothers me that Tannehill hands were 9 inches. I went back the last three years and that was as small as a QB's hands get. I heard them saying that was Alex Smiths problem in the NFC championship game, was he had small hands and could not grip the ball. And guys with small hands tend to fumble. Are 9 inch hands a problem SS?

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I'm no QB coach, what do I know about Tannehill's hands

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[quote=Lotus;890325]I disagree with Wise for several reasons, most notably because his logic is self-defeating. If we build as he suggests then we perhaps draft in the teens next year. Then it will be much farther to trade up for Jones and Barkley than it is to trade up for Griffin now.

It's like waiting to buy a house because it is expensive now even though you know that the house's price will rise dramatically while you wait.[/quote]While I think that we should keep trying to get in position for RG3 so long as we have the 6th pick, I will point out that Ryan Tannehill types are around in the middle of the first round every season.

There probably won't be the vast selection of first round quarterback options there is this year for quite awhile, but I don't necessarily think that picking in the middle of the round is an impediment to getting a good quarterback.

There probably won't be a Robert Griffin in the draft to be a foil to Matt Barkley though.

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[quote=SmootSmack;890343]I'm no QB coach, what do I know about Tannehill's hands[/quote]

Ask Dirtbag, he's a doctor.

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[quote=GTripp0012;890366]While I think that we should keep trying to get in position for RG3 so long as we have the 6th pick, I will point out that Ryan Tannehill types are around in the middle of the first round every season.

There probably won't be the vast selection of first round quarterback options there is this year for quite awhile, but I don't necessarily think that picking in the middle of the round is an impediment to getting a good quarterback.

There probably won't be a Robert Griffin in the draft to be a foil to Matt Barkley though.[/quote]

I essentially agree. But the author of the article mentioned Barkley and Jones specifically so I was just taking his presumptions to their logical ends.

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[quote=Lotus;890325]I disagree with Wise for several reasons, most notably because his logic is self-defeating. If we build as he suggests then we perhaps draft in the teens next year. Then it will be much farther to trade up for Jones and Barkley than it is to trade up for Griffin now.

It's like waiting to buy a house because it is expensive now even though you know that the house's price will rise dramatically while you wait.[/quote]

Stay away from Barkley, name a USC qb that has made a difference with any team... and please don't say Palmer (when did he win a playoff game?). USC always has talent all over the field and the qb is just a placholder and game-manager.

Tannehill is not a franchise qb. If his head coach doesn't make a play for him in Miami (OC) that should tell you everything. Small hands make a big difference(i.e. Rex Grossman).

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Just Heard Sam Huff on XM, sounded senile, and probably got himself fired. Trashed the coaches and said the reason we are not good is not QB its running back. And said nothing compares to playing for the Giants.

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Current rumor is we'll take a WR.......

This displeases me to no end but at this stage it's probably all smokescreen before the off.

PLEASE TAKE A QB!

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[quote=Lotus;890373]I essentially agree. But the author of the article mentioned Barkley and Jones specifically so I was just taking his presumptions to their logical ends.[/quote]The Wise article is mostly garbage aimed at the lowest common denominator. But he does make one really solid point: if the Shanaplan now calls to do what it takes to trade up and make Griffin the face of the franchise, what in the hell was he doing for two seasons?

The argument that Shanahan has taken a measured principled approach to rebuilding the Redskins has never looked more ridiculous than it does right now. The guy is just trying to do what he can to win games, and he may very well believe that Robert Griffin gives him the best chance to do that.

I'll be interested who the first poster to link the McNabb benching to his opinion on RG3 as a prospect is, since everything has been premeditated.

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[quote=RedskinRat;890380]Current rumor is we'll take a WR.......

This displeases me to no end but at this stage it's probably all smokescreen before the off.

PLEASE TAKE A QB![/quote]

Link? where did u hear this rumor at? if we do take a WR with our 1st round pick, i hope it is after we trade down or if blackmon is there at #6.

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[quote=SmootSmack;890289]Cousins in particular.[/quote]
What round are we talking?

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[quote=30gut;890399]What round are we talking?[/quote]

You don't want to hear the answer

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[quote=30gut;890399]What round are we talking?[/quote]

Trading up to the second overall pick...

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[quote=SmootSmack;890400]You don't want to hear the answer[/quote]

hold on...we arent talking 1st round? sorry even if we move back in the first that's unacceptable. 3rd round would be highest we should consider.

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[quote=SmootSmack;890400]You don't want to hear the answer[/quote]

2nd round

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[quote=RedskinRat;890380]Current rumor is we'll take a WR.......

This displeases me to no end but at this stage it's probably all smokescreen before the off.

PLEASE TAKE A QB![/quote]

That makes sense as a tactical blocking move. The Rams say they will trade with someone lower than us in the draft (ie dolphins) we say that's fine, but we guarantee Kalil and Blackmon will be gone.

[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;890412]That makes sense as a tactical blocking move. The Rams say they will trade with someone lower than us in the draft (ie dolphins) we say that's fine, but we guarantee Kalil and Blackmon will be gone.[/QUOTE]

And the browns can do the same to us.

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[quote=redskins5044;890416]And the browns can do the same to us.[/quote]
true, but the browns really have all the advantages anyways. IF they want to spend their picks, they get the trade. You have to assume if we get him that the Browns weren't really willing to go all in.

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[quote=RedskinRat;890380]Current rumor is we'll take a WR.......

This displeases me to no end but at this stage it's probably all smokescreen before the off.

PLEASE TAKE A QB![/quote]

Your not talking about in the first round of the draft are you. Im pretty sure we are looking to add FA wrs.

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Dan McKlurken says we will outbid Cleveland and get RGIII.

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alot of people feel that we will but that doesnt mean anything, im not getting my hopes up. i just hope dan and everyone else is right and we do

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[quote=Bubba305-ST21-;890418]Your not talking about in the first round of the draft are you. Im pretty sure we are looking to add FA wrs.[/quote]

I was, I now retract.

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