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[quote=CultBrennan59;1002266]Young, rated out as a better MLB (16) than both Perry (30) and London (24) [according to nfldraftscout's top 60 ILBs], and said he prefers to play in the 34 defense. He supposedly is a 2 down LB, but in the 3-4, he may not be just a 2 down LB. I know people are high on Keenan Robinson, but the dude didn't start and only played in very limited packages and tore his pec. Translation; I'm not sold as him starting right after London retires. Even Perry played and stayed healthy a lot his first year as an ILB. If we signed Rolando to a small deal, he'd be worth it to replace London or incase Riley leaves in FA or if Keenan doesn't work out, or if Keenan is only a passing down kind of LB and Rolando can play the other run downs.[/quote]

I dont think it would kill us to do our research and give him a look, but I just dont think he will end up here.

His type of head case activities I have more a concern with than Honey Badger liking to get high in college.

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[quote=44Deezel;1002269]Thank you. RBs and WRs = get them young and cheap. Our Offense produced even when Garçon and Davis were out. We don't need overpriced free agents. The Giants got great value for him, as he was an undrafted free agent. We should look to do the same.[/quote]

I gotta disagree with you on this one. Get them young and cheap. Guys like Morris and Cruz don't just appear all the time. Morris is the leading rusher in Redskins history.

Cruz, another amazing story of huge production from a UDFA after spending a year on IR. We have been looking for someone other than Santana Moss for years, we are finally starting to get some now but we had to sign one to a big contract and the other to a big contract. Next year as we currently stand we are back to just Garcon.

Mike just needs to find the next Brandon Marshal (without the mental issues pleas), Elvis Dummervil, Ryan Clady, and a bad man at FS in the draft then we are set to hoist Lombardisss... lol

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Shanallen put a premium on character. I don't think that Rolando McClain will pass muster on this count.

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[quote=Lotus;1002384]Shanallen put a premium on character. I don't think that Rolando McClain will pass muster on this count.[/quote]

I agree with you, but after last seasons 7 game win streak I think we have strong character guys in our locker room to mold these low chararcter guys. Our Captains, got guys to beleive 1 game at a time and we can do this.

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[quote=Lotus;1002384]Shanallen put a premium on character. I don't think that Rolando McClain will pass muster on this count.[/quote]

While they may have put a premium on it, they certainly arent afraid to try some lesser character guys. They did sign TJax and Merriweather. We were desperate at that position, but they have experimented with trying talent and seeing if our team leaders could keep them in place.

You cant just cut everyone that screws up once such as Davis and Williams (they seem to have gotten it), but we arent talking about that with Tokemup Jackson. He came over with a ton of baggage. He was already at the gone indefinitely with the option to appeal in 1 year for another failed test before we signed him.

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[quote=Skinzman;1002405]While they may have put a premium on it, they certainly arent afraid to try some lesser character guys. They did sign TJax and Merriweather. We were desperate at that position, but they have experimented with trying talent and seeing if our team leaders could keep them in place.

You cant just cut everyone that screws up once such as Davis and Williams (they seem to have gotten it), but we arent talking about that with Tokemup Jackson. He came over with a ton of baggage. He was already at the gone indefinitely with the option to appeal in 1 year for another failed test before we signed him.[/quote]

exactly. And Shanahan did also draft Maurice Clarette and Brandon Marshall, sign Romanowski and other guys who were viewed as bad people in the public eye. Hell Josh morgan last year did an incredibly stupid thing on the field, and when most people were saying "Cut that headcase" Shanahan and Allen kept him. So no we're not a team full of choir boys.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1002407]exactly. And Shanahan did also draft Maurice Clarette and Brandon Marshall, sign Romanowski and other guys who were viewed as bad people in the public eye. Hell Josh morgan last year did an incredibly stupid thing on the field, and when most people were saying "Cut that headcase" Shanahan and Allen kept him. So no we're not a team full of choir boys.[/quote]

Off the field Morgan is a great man in the community. He let his emotions get the best of him in the Rams game but that was an isolated incident.

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[quote=Skinzman;1002405]While they may have put a premium on it, they certainly arent afraid to try some lesser character guys. They did sign TJax and Merriweather. We were desperate at that position, but they have experimented with trying talent and seeing if our team leaders could keep them in place.

You cant just cut everyone that screws up once such as Davis and Williams (they seem to have gotten it), but we arent talking about that with Tokemup Jackson. He came over with a ton of baggage. He was already at the gone indefinitely with the option to appeal in 1 year for another failed test before we signed him.[/quote]

Good points.

LOL Tokemup

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1002407]exactly. And Shanahan did also draft Maurice [B]Clarette and Brandon Marshall, sign Romanowski[/B] and other guys who were viewed as bad people in the public eye. Hell Josh morgan last year did an incredibly stupid thing on the field, and when most people were saying "Cut that headcase" Shanahan and Allen kept him. So no we're not a team full of choir boys.[/quote]

IMO Shanny in DC has put more of an emphasis on character than Shanny in Denver, and if so, the Broncos you mention don't really affect the discussion of current Shanny.

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[quote=Lotus;1002411]IMO Shanny in DC has put more of an emphasis on character than Shanny in Denver, and if so, the Broncos you mention don't really affect the discussion of current Shanny.[/quote]

Shanahan will still take chances (as someone else said) he's gone after Meriweather with his head hunting on the field and DUI's off the field, to Tanard and his constant suspensions, Trent and Fred may have had good seasons last year but they're also one puff away from being suspended for a while, so they're not perfect character guys, because weed and being tolerant of it can also put a bad culture in a lockeroom (not saying Shanahan isn't, because he's not going to cut his LT or starting TE). I understand McClain to you would fit more in the Meriweather catergory because he got arrested, but he's worth a chance. You don't loose anything if you sign him to a 1 year deal w/ limited guaranteed money.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1002414]Shanahan will still take chances (as someone else said) he's gone after Meriweather with his head hunting on the field and DUI's off the field, to Tanard and his constant suspensions, Trent and Fred may have had good seasons last year but they're also one puff away from being suspended for a while, so they're not perfect character guys, because weed and being tolerant of it can also put a bad culture in a lockeroom (not saying Shanahan isn't, because he's not going to cut his LT or starting TE). I understand McClain to you would fit more in the Meriweather catergory because he got arrested, but he's worth a chance. You don't loose anything if you sign him to a 1 year deal w/ limited guaranteed money.[/quote]

But then the question becomes would McClain sign a one year deal. Market will dictate that. But then you also have the problem with London too, because of his contract.

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It's killing me how stupid the Jets are. I mean STUUUUUPID. They might as well have kept Tennebum was moronic stuff like this. So you have ONE team that wants this guy, and they are willing to give you a 1st, 3rd, and 6th round picks and you STILL haven't pulled the trigger? This is a guy you don't want to pay and want to move on to. Guess what? That deal isn't going to get any sweeter, it's only going to get worse.

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/news/report-bucs-losing-patience-jets-124025765--nfl.html]Y! SPORTS[/url]


Woody Johnson should asking his new GM why hasn't this deal been made yet.

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They Jets should make any team trading for Revis take Tebow as a throw-in.

Jets are becoming the raiders east. And honestly I'm tired of hearing about the jets, they have never been any good honestly, they have 1 SB title and that was 40 years ago. Only reason they get any time is because of the NY factor. They aren't much better historically than Philadelphia

How do the Cowboys have enough money to possibly sign Winston & we don't?

@AdamSchefter: Cowboys now in talks to sign former Chiefs OT Eric Winston.

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yeah, the jets have made a lot of weird decisions in the rex ryan era... if they aren't paying revis, take your picks and be happy about it.

I personally wouldn't want revis, since he never seems to be happy with his contract, and he's missed games recently as well.

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[quote=Gtothearry;1002528]How do the Cowboys have enough money to possibly sign Winston & we don't?

@AdamSchefter: Cowboys now in talks to sign former Chiefs OT Eric Winston.[/quote]

ditto

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[quote=Gtothearry;1002528]How do the Cowboys have enough money to possibly sign Winston & we don't?

@AdamSchefter: Cowboys now in talks to sign former Chiefs OT Eric Winston.[/quote]

They freed up about $5M with Romo's new deal.

[QUOTE=Mattyk;1002535]They freed up about $5M with Romo's new deal.[/QUOTE]

I thought they made that deal in order to sign the 2 players they already had deals agreed upon with but were unable to sign due to cap room.

Justin Durant & someone else.

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[quote=Gtothearry;1002536]I thought they made that deal in order to sign the 2 players they already had deals agreed upon with but were unable to sign due to cap room.

Justin Durant & someone else.[/quote]

They also cut Armstrong, who subsequently came back at a lower price.

Winston isn't some all pro player, hes decent but that's it.

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[quote=Gtothearry;1002528]How do the Cowboys have enough money to possibly sign Winston & we don't?

@AdamSchefter: Cowboys now in talks to sign former Chiefs OT Eric Winston.[/quote]

They'll cut Doug Free. He's as good as gone next off-season anyways looking at his cap number.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1002538]Winston isn't some all pro player, hes decent but that's it.[/quote]

He doesn't really fit their big bruiser system either.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1002538]Winston isn't some all pro player, hes decent but that's it.[/quote]

I wonder why the Chiefs released him. I guess they're intent on taking one of the tackles with their first pick and create a monster of a duo at both tackle spots.

At the very least it looks like character was the least among the reasons that led to his release. Lots of respect from his now former teammates.
[url=http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/3/6/4073094/eric-winston-released-kansas-city-chiefs-free-agency]Eric Winston cut by the Kansas City Chiefs - Arrowhead Pride[/url]

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@nfltrade_rumors: RT @MarkBermanFox26 Free agent right tackle Ryan Harris will stay with the Texans. Sources: He signs a 1-year contract with Houston.

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Don't fear the Seahawks. They just signed a new backup QB. [U]WHEN[/U] Wilson gets injured, [B]Brady Quinn[/B] will be running their offense (into the ground).

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Looks like Rolando McClain will sign with the ravens per schefter.

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Good match. He could be a good replacement for Ray Lewis....off the field. :D

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@RapSheet: #Redskins fought hard for Winfield. Others too. But it's down to 2 in a whirlwind battle that feels like a big-money deal early in FA period

He's referring to Seattle and Minnesota.

@AdamSchefter: And @Edwerderespn is reporting that former Vikings CB Antoine Winfield is close to agreeing to terms with the Seattle Seahawks.

[QUOTE=CultBrennan59;1002916]@RapSheet: #Redskins fought hard for Winfield. Others too. But it's down to 2 in a whirlwind battle that feels like a big-money deal early in FA period

He's referring to Seattle and Minnesota.[/QUOTE]

Well he's not worth big $$ he's getting old. O well good for Seattle, they still won't win a Superbowl

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Definately would not pay him a big contract.

[QUOTE=Gtothearry;1002917]@AdamSchefter: And @Edwerderespn is reporting that former Vikings CB Antoine Winfield is close to agreeing to terms with the Seattle Seahawks.[/QUOTE]

Fawk!

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There's making good moves and too many moves. Seattle is making too many moves; I can see an Eagles Dream team disaster on that team if one of their big names gets hurt. Plus its San Frans division to lose.

@Edwerderespn: CB Antoine Winfield was close to deal with Seahawks and still seems his preference but other teams now involved at last minute. Stay tuned

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1002927]There's making good moves and too many moves. Seattle is making too many moves; I can see an Eagles Dream team disaster on that team if one of their big names gets hurt. Plus its San Frans division to lose.[/quote]

They are building an ego-based team from the foundation of a sound selfless team.

We will roll them next playoff visit.

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[quote=RedskinRat;1003023]They are building an ego-based team from the foundation of a sound selfless team.

We will roll them next playoff visit.[/quote]

The best parts of that team were drafted and developed by that team, loud moves usually are not good moves, but we will see.

[QUOTE=CultBrennan59;1002927]There's making good moves and too many moves. Seattle is making too many moves; I can see an Eagles Dream team disaster on that team if one of their big names gets hurt. Plus its San Frans division to lose.[/QUOTE]

I disagree, I think it's Seattle's division to lose. IMO Wilson will prove he's better than kaepernick next year, I'm not sold on Colin like most are, he has a good arm but I haven't seen him throw as accurate as the other young guns in the NFL.

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[quote=RedskinRat;1003023]They are building an ego-based team from the foundation of a sound selfless team.

We will roll them next playoff visit.[/quote]

I see them as New York Jets West with Pete Carroll as an equivalent clown car driver to Rex Ryan.

The difference, however, is Russell Wilson. He's solid and shown he's both more talented and an exponentially better leader than Sanchez.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1003034]I disagree, I think it's Seattle's division to lose. [B]IMO Wilson will prove he's better than kaepernick next year, I'm not sold on Colin like most are, he has a good arm but I haven't seen him throw as accurate as the other young guns in the NFL[/B].[/quote]

Agree 100%, I like kaep but I don't think he's the answer for the 9ers.