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Healthy ankles dont make you read a defense better.

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[QUOTE=Alvin Walton;1106369]Healthy ankles dont make you read a defense better.[/QUOTE]


Lol. He needs to just stfu.

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[quote=davy;1106368][url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2015/01/29/redskins-rgiii-says-he-wasnt-healthy-last-season-and-it-sucked/]Redskins’ RGIII says he wasn’t healthy last season and ‘it sucked’ - The Washington Post[/url]

“Last year I wasn’t healthy, and it sucked, so there’s no other way to say it other than that,” Griffin said. “When you dislocate your ankle in the second week of the season, when you and your team have big things in mind. It’s just getting healthy, getting the mental break getting a chance to spend time with family, and then formulate my plan going forward for this year and we can go out there and win games and be playing at this time next year.”

“And that didn’t happen when I got back out there, and coach made a decision. And that’s an unfortunate decision, and something we all had to go with because that was coach’s choice."

"I think it just comes with the organizational support that [Brady and Wilson] have as well to be the players that they are, to understand that this is our guy no matter what. I think the [NFC Championship] game with the Packers shows that more than anything. When a guy goes out there and throws four interceptions and then leads them to a victory, I think that guy knows in the back of his head that his entire team has his back, and the entire organization has his back. And I think that’s important, and I think it’s been the same way for Tom Brady."

Still not accepting any responsibilty for his own poor play. Injuries, coaches, organization but not RGIII.


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Utter crap. Game tape don't lie when u miss receivers running free, wrong drops away from center, and misreading defenses...

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Besides the excuses he should never ever ever even remotely hint at the fact that he might be anything like Tom Brady.

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He does make some valid points but I know, he's not allowed to talk for some reason.

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1106373]Besides the excuses he should never ever ever even remotely hint at the fact that he might be anything like Tom Brady.[/QUOTE]


He was asked about what he can learn from watching Brady and Wilson.

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We live in a new generation, they talk alot now theres so many outlets for them to do that. I have no problem with them talking, I have more of a problem with the media twisting there words to suit there purpose.

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[quote=Mattyk;1106375]He does make some valid points but I know, he's not allowed to talk for some reason.[/quote]

He can talk after he takes us to the playoffs two years in a row.
Until then hes highly suspect as a bust.
We want wins, not coulda woulda shoulda stuff.

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[quote=davy;1106368][url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2015/01/29/redskins-rgiii-says-he-wasnt-healthy-last-season-and-it-sucked/]Redskins’ RGIII says he wasn’t healthy last season and ‘it sucked’ - The Washington Post[/url]

“Last year I wasn’t healthy, and it sucked, so there’s no other way to say it other than that,” Griffin said. “When you dislocate your ankle in the second week of the season, when you and your team have big things in mind. It’s just getting healthy, getting the mental break getting a chance to spend time with family, and then formulate my plan going forward for this year and we can go out there and win games and be playing at this time next year.”

“And that didn’t happen when I got back out there, and coach made a decision. And that’s an unfortunate decision, and something we all had to go with because that was coach’s choice."

"I think it just comes with the organizational support that [Brady and Wilson] have as well to be the players that they are, to understand that this is our guy no matter what. I think the [NFC Championship] game with the Packers shows that more than anything. When a guy goes out there and throws four interceptions and then leads them to a victory, I think that guy knows in the back of his head that his entire team has his back, and the entire organization has his back. And I think that’s important, and I think it’s been the same way for Tom Brady."

Still not accepting any responsibilty for his own poor play. Injuries, coaches, organization but not RGIII.


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That's the vibe that I got, too.

However, toward the end of the season he did show signs of at least trying to listen to others. Maybe the mental clouds still can break.

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Right now, I have very little faith in Griffin. He just doesn't seem to have the instincts to play the position at a high level. Then factor in the injuries. But even before he got hurt last year, the coaches had very little belief that he could run the offense. Hope he proves me wrong, but time is running out.

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I think the biggest mistake that this team made was to put a mediocre team around an unproven/developing/so-so set of QBs.

Unless we happen to get our hands on the likes of Rodgers, Manning, and Brees. We're not going to win games until all of our units can play at a respectable level. Just about all of our units, except maybe the running game, have been trash over the past two seasons.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk;1106375]He does make some valid points but I know, he's not allowed to talk for some reason.[/QUOTE]


First off wilson shouldnt be mentioned with brady either. Lol. If brady played on seattle they would win every game they play!
Im glad that you pointed out the question it takes alot of the stupid out of the answer.
As for his not being allowed to talk - no not at all. But to bring up injuries etc? The dude was faaaar from impressive against houston while he was healthy. Also bad ankle or not he flat out stunk - had the mechanics of a tin man running low on oil. He missed wide open targets all damn year and could not read the field to save his life. He wasnt just missing throws he was flat out missing reads.
Hey hopefully he gets it next year, but if i had to put money on him being succesful lets just say it wouldnt be much. Lol.

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He is a supreme athlete without supreme mechanics that is injury prone. The song goes two outta three aint bad.......
I dont think he is the answer.

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If Cavanaugh can get RG3 footwork right things can turn around quickly. Since his knee injury I believe he has been trying to use pure arm strength.

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Yeah but the missed reads are the real worry. Again he isnt just missing throws hes missing wide open wr's? Thats scary.

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[quote=davy;1106368][url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2015/01/29/redskins-rgiii-says-he-wasnt-healthy-last-season-and-it-sucked/]Redskins’ RGIII says he wasn’t healthy last season and ‘it sucked’ - The Washington Post[/url]

“Last year I wasn’t healthy, and it sucked, so there’s no other way to say it other than that,” Griffin said. “When you dislocate your ankle in the second week of the season, when you and your team have big things in mind. It’s just getting healthy, getting the mental break getting a chance to spend time with family, and then formulate my plan going forward for this year and we can go out there and win games and be playing at this time next year.”

“And that didn’t happen when I got back out there, and coach made a decision. And that’s an unfortunate decision, and something we all had to go with because that was coach’s choice."

"I think it just comes with the organizational support that [Brady and Wilson] have as well to be the players that they are, to understand that this is our guy no matter what. I think the [NFC Championship] game with the Packers shows that more than anything. When a guy goes out there and throws four interceptions and then leads them to a victory, I think that guy knows in the back of his head that his entire team has his back, and the entire organization has his back. And I think that’s important, and I think it’s been the same way for Tom Brady."

Still not accepting any responsibilty for his own poor play. Injuries, coaches, organization but not RGIII.


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This is disheartening to me because it sounds like RGIIII hasn't learned a damn thing. Now, I have to doubt that he'll ever get with the program here in D.C.

Oh well, we'll see what he's got this summer. At this point, I don't much care how it goes with him. If necessary, we'll just go forward with someone else at QB.

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I read the article. It certainly can be interpreted in a couple of different ways.

Bottom line, he simply has to figure out a 3 step drop. Foot hits, ball out. If you can't do that consistently, and do it well, you can't play QB in this league. He has yet to show the ability to do that, injury or no injury. The deeper drops, the pocket presence, maybe he can learn and assimilate that over time, but if you can't do the "move the chains" throws consistently well, he'll never get the time to do that.

I still am hoping he gets his had out of his a** and comes through for us. I just don't know if he can.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1106388]I think the biggest mistake that this team made was to put a mediocre team around an unproven/developing/so-so set of QBs.

Unless we happen to get our hands on the likes of Rodgers, Manning, and Brees. We're not going to win games until all of our units can play at a respectable level. Just about all of our units, except maybe the running game, have been trash over the past two seasons.[/quote]

I think there are a lot of QB's that would like to have Garcon, Jackson and a healthy Reed. They've put weapons around him. Yeah the line isn't the 91 group, but he doesn't do himself any favors by not getting rid of the ball when he's suppose to. He's sacked at a alarmingly high rate. Can't just keep saying "the line sucks!" He makes them worse than they really are.

I'm at the point where if he plays poorly this off-season/pre-season then they should just trade him. It's not worth the headache/drama.

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RG3 not only has to overcome his glaring lack of the basic fundamentals of playing Qb in the nfl, but he has the more difficult job overcoming his huge ego. That is what has held him back more than anything else. It starts by him admitting it was more than injuries.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1106422]This is disheartening to me because it sounds like RGIIII hasn't learned a damn thing. Now, I have to doubt that he'll ever get with the program here in D.C.

Oh well, we'll see what he's got this summer. At this point, I don't much care how it goes with him. If necessary, we'll just go forward with someone else at QB.[/quote]

I agree. He's almost off our roster, and still doesn't seem to admit or understand he's part of the problem. He used to handle the media so well when things were going well, but has just created a mess with the media ever since he got hurt. I always cringe when I see him give news conferences.

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“For me, what I’ve learned is, at times like these you have to focus in on yourself a whole lot harder and that’s what I’ve tried to do,” Griffin said. “I’ve tried to figure what I can do to be more consistent, go out there and play the game that you love, the way that you know how to play it."


Clearly no accountability.

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^^People hear what they want to, never mind what he actually said.

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No more talk, no more excuses. Put it all on the field. Simple enough.

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He isnt good enough. Plain and simple. I dont care what he said or didnt say. He stinks. He is a bust. Move on.

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[quote=davy;1106368][url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2015/01/29/redskins-rgiii-says-he-wasnt-healthy-last-season-and-it-sucked/]Redskins’ RGIII says he wasn’t healthy last season and ‘it sucked’ - The Washington Post[/url]

“Last year I wasn’t healthy, and it sucked, so there’s no other way to say it other than that,” Griffin said. “When you dislocate your ankle in the second week of the season, when you and your team have big things in mind. It’s just getting healthy, getting the mental break getting a chance to spend time with family, and then formulate my plan going forward for this year and we can go out there and win games and be playing at this time next year.”

“And that didn’t happen when I got back out there, and coach made a decision. And that’s an unfortunate decision, and something we all had to go with because that was coach’s choice."

"I think it just comes with the organizational support that [Brady and Wilson] have as well to be the players that they are, to understand that this is our guy no matter what. I think the [NFC Championship] game with the Packers shows that more than anything. When a guy goes out there and throws four interceptions and then leads them to a victory, I think that guy knows in the back of his head that his entire team has his back, and the entire organization has his back. And I think that’s important, and I think it’s been the same way for Tom Brady."

Still not accepting any responsibilty for his own poor play. Injuries, coaches, organization but not RGIII.


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What RG3 has to understand is that Brady and Wilson earned the trust and support of their teammates, coaches, and organizations. Week in and week out they earn respect. They consistently make big plays. These guys don't constantly go to the media saying dumb sh*t that they know will cause problems for themselves. That is the difference.

My question is this. When the hell is the kid going to get it? When is he going to realize that it's his play that has caused his career to take a nose dive? He caused our team games. We could have beat the Seahawks in 2012. This idiot refuse to come out according to him in his post game interview. He was all in for week one in 2013 even though he was clearly not ready. I think that caused the team a lot of games. Last year he seem to take a step back. He was horrible.

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[url=http://www.csnwashington.com/redskinsblog/so-much-can-happen-when-rg3-posts-instagram]So much can happen when RG3 posts on Instagram | Comcast SportsNet Washington[/url]

Spends a lot of effort on the "haters"

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Haters need to get a life.

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[quote=Mattyk;1107219]Haters need to get a life.[/quote]

This, +1, Like, and all that.

Guy posted a pic of him singing a classic tune. (I actually expected the hate to be centered on him saying "I am the one") and some Nimrod feels the need to use it as an opportunity to explain to a 22 year old millionaire how he ought to live his life.

Crazy times.

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He can't even promote his foundation without morons asking him why he isn't practicing or watching film.

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[quote=Mattyk;1107222]He can't even promote his foundation without morons asking him why he isn't practicing or watching film.[/quote]

*RG3 sits on the pot and takes a dump*

"THIS IS ALL TIME THAT COULD'VE BEEN SPENT PRACTICING"

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[quote=Mattyk;1107219]Haters need to get a life.[/quote]

Couldn't agree more. People who waste their time telling him he needs to study film while driving to work are idiots.

The one thing that needs to happen even more than the haters getting a life: Our would be franchise QB not getting into a verbal fight he can't win on social media with said haters.

If he wants to post videos covering all of Jackson's number 1 hits go for it.

But, why even acknowledge any anonymous critic who is predicting RGIII's release from the Redskins?

Who else does this? Luck, Rogers, Manning, Manning, Brady, Wilson, Roethlisberger, Flacco.

Nope. Our guy. He is going into his 4th year. He should know how this works.

The entire back and forth between RG3 and the haters is a bit embarrassing.

Just my opinion, he needs to completely erase his social media presence and show up to camp and show people how much time and work he has put into this off season. Make the new GM want to sign him early.

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He's certainly not the first celeb to get into it with a hater, and I don't recall him doing it before. Yeah he'd be better off not saying anything but everyone has their limits.

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I had a long post going BUT I will just agree..HATERS NEED TO GET A LIFE!!

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[quote=Mattyk;1107222]He can't even promote his foundation without morons asking him why he isn't practicing or watching film.[/quote]

I agree. It is a shame that fans act this way, but I'm more worried that he even responds do those idiots and defends himself. He's got to have thicker skin than that. I wouldn't even acknowledge them.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1107221]This, +1, Like, and all that.

Guy posted a pic of him singing a classic tune. (I actually expected the hate to be centered on him saying "I am the one") and some Nimrod feels the need to use it as an opportunity to explain to a 22 year old millionaire how he ought to live his life.

Crazy times.[/quote]

There needs to be an internet On/Off switch for some people. "Mmkay, son, you did that thing we talked about again, so no more internet for you." <click>

Just don't put NC Skins in charge. :D

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What RGIII should of done was reply with the Michael Jackson song Leave Me Alone.

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Griffin needs to stop the social media or don't respond to negative comments. Responding to someone that's obviously trolling him makes him look like he's insecure. Makes him look like he cares what everyone thinks. Oh wait...

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[quote=NC_Skins;1107229]I agree. It is a shame that fans act this way, but I'm more worried that he even responds do those idiots and defends himself. He's got to have thicker skin than that. I wouldn't even acknowledge them.[/quote]

That's one of his problems. He doesn't have thick skin.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1107259]Griffin needs to stop the social media or don't respond to negative comments. Responding to someone that's obviously trolling him makes him look like he's insecure. Makes him look like he cares what everyone thinks. Oh wait...[/quote]

And that is what is wrong with the PC clouded world we live in, I don't care who you are, if you feel the need to say something to me, then you have opened yourself up for a response.

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I have no problem w RG3 politely responding to an off-base critic.

We have torn this guy apart enough for his on-field play, attacking him for off field stuff like this seems so unnecessary.

We are way to hyper critical. This is insane. hes not posting pics of his junk or partying like a rockstar.

He is having good clean wholesome fun with his family.

We as a fan base are tunnel-visioned cannibals at this point. I feel bad for RG3 and hope he does well when he gets away from us. We so deserve the DS, we are the DS.