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[quote=JoeRedskin;1194661]My prediction for this year's Training Camp Man-Crush award: [url=http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/36509/final-pick-trey-quinn-confident-hell-be-relevant-with-redskins]Mr. Irrelevant Trey Quinn confident he'll be relevant with Redskins - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN[/url]

It seems to me that, normally, the TCMC is reserved for undrafted guys. However, as the last pick taken by anyone, I think he qualifies.[/quote]

would like to see him backing up all that talk (which he claims he will do)

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1194638]The real Question is: If Allen “brings nothing to the table,” why is he still here?


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What did Vinny Cerrato bring to the table? And he was fired and rehired.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1194661]My prediction for this year's Training Camp Man-Crush award: [url=http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/36509/final-pick-trey-quinn-confident-hell-be-relevant-with-redskins]Mr. Irrelevant Trey Quinn confident he'll be relevant with Redskins - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN[/url]

It seems to me that, normally, the TCMC is reserved for undrafted guys. However, as the last pick taken by anyone, I think he qualifies.[/quote]

Trey Quinn could be very relevant when Crowder comes up for contract next year. Crowder's 2017 season was underwhelming and if he has a similar year he wouldn't be worth the overpriced contracts slot receivers are getting noawadays.. He may be replaced by Irrelevancy.

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Edit. I googled it - and PFF has a good analysis.. Maybe Crowders production last year simply reflected good opposing defenses, and maybe he bounces back this year. Still if Trey Quinn is any good, he may replace Crowder to save us money

[QUOTE]Washington Redskins – As we outlined on Tuesday, the Redskins have our easiest schedule for outside wide receivers, but also our fourth-easiest schedule for slot wide receivers. Jamison Crowder ran 74.4 percent of his routes from the slot last season and should reprise this role in 2018. Crowder saw a decline in production last year, averaging 11.0 fantasy points per game after averaging 12.0 in the season prior (and on 0.68 more targets per game). Still, our grades suggest he’s actually improved over this stretch (and massively so), grading out 32nd at the position after ranking 85th in 2016. His ADP is fine (WR41), but there are other names within that tier that I prefer.

[url]https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/fantasy-football-the-best-and-worst-schedules-for-the-fantasy-slot-wide-receivers[/url]
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Trey Quinn is the next Wes Welker lol.

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We might want to temper the Quinn hype train, talking about him replacing Crowder is just a little silly at this point. Let’s see if he makes the team first.

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[quote=MTK;1194673]We might want to temper the Quinn hype train, talking about him replacing Crowder is just a little silly at this point. Let’s see if he makes the team first.[/quote]

He'll definitely make the team, it's not like competition at his position is super crazy either...

Replacing Crowder is one too many step ahead though, I agree.

Side note: 100% selfishly, I'd love us to bring [U]WR Anthony Mahoungou[/U] in if he gets cut by the Eagles. They have a solid receiving corps, and he happens to be [B]french[/B] and to have initially learned football in the closest team to my house, le Flash de la Courneuve ^^

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[url=http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/23547751/dallas-cowboys-wr-terrance-williams-arrested-public-intoxication]Dallas Cowboys WR Terrance Williams arrested for public intoxication[/url]

Cowboys ballin

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CT was our breakout star last season, who is that guy going to be this season?

Dunbar?

Nicholson?

Doc?

or someone else?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1194687]CT was our breakout star last season, who is that guy going to be this season?

Dunbar?

Nicholson?

Doc?

or someone else?[/quote]



Defense...I think Preston Smith finally puts it all together and gets a Sack total in the mid teens. Payne and Allen will help his production.

Offense....Id lean towards Guice...but someone is gonna catch a ton of balls underneath check downs. Could be Crowder or Quinn in that role.

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[quote=Chico23231;1194688]Defense...I think Preston Smith finally puts it all together and gets a Sack total in the mid teens. Payne and Allen will help his production.

Offense....Id lean towards Guice...but someone is gonna catch a ton of balls underneath check downs. Could be Crowder or Quinn in that role.[/quote]

Speaking of DG he said about Alex "I don't know what people have seen but he's got an arm on him"

As far as PS goes, I hope he has a huge yr. My guy on Defense is Nich, I think he has 4-5 INTS

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[quote=MTK;1194673]We might want to temper the Quinn hype train, talking about him replacing Crowder is just a little silly at this point. Let’s see if he makes the team first.[/quote]

This. He talks a good game. He has good stats against mid-level college teams in a pass heavy offense. Gruden apparently likes him, and I think JG has a pretty good eye for talent. So, yes, he is primed for being a really good player for us.

However, talk is talk, let's see if he can walk the walk at this level before crowning him the next, best great slot receiver of this generation.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1194690]This. He talks a good game. He has good stats against mid-level college teams in a pass heavy offense. Gruden apparently likes him, and I think JG has a pretty good eye for talent. So, yes, he is primed for being a really good player for us.

However, talk is talk, let's see if he can walk the walk at this level before crowning him the next, best great slot receiver of this generation.[/quote]

He has the confidence that is for sure, I agree about Crowder. Just 2 years ago many were saying he is a top 5 slot WR, last yr he was asked to do more without PG and DJAX. If Reed can actually play more than 4 games a yr Crowder would be much better

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1194689]Speaking of DG he said about Alex "[B]I don't know what people have seen but he's got an arm on him"[/B]
As far as PS goes, I hope he has a huge yr. My guy on Defense is Nich, I think he has 4-5 INTS[/quote]

Alex has a big wind up and needs time to get it down field. He had that in KC..time will tell if he will have it here.

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[quote=Chico23231;1194692]Alex has a big wind up and needs time to get it down field. He had that in KC..time will tell if he will have it here.[/quote]

True

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[url]https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-five-teams-who-could-surprise-in-the-nfl-playoffs?utm_content=buffer1f1f3&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=nfl[/url]

Quick Note: I am now a member of PFF and PFF_College. I will try not to post many stats on here though. This is a good read from PFF Gordon.

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[quote=Chico23231;1194692]Alex has a big wind up and needs time to get it down field. He had that in KC..time will tell if he will have it here.[/quote]

Our pass blocking line has been good to very good, especially when healthy. Something that benefitted KC, but will benefit AS more. It's also said that AS is better at off schedule passes, something KC struggled with.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1194694][url]https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-five-teams-who-could-surprise-in-the-nfl-playoffs?utm_content=buffer1f1f3&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=nfl[/url]

Quick Note: I am now a member of PFF and PFF_College. I will try not to post many stats on here though. This is a good read from PFF Gordon.[/quote]

Good read, seems like the author knows what he is talking about.

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Bills released OG Richie Incognito

This would be a substantial upgrade...but he is a headcase. I would hope we are a strong enough team who could handle a 1 year deal for him. I would at least give them a call.

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[quote=Chico23231;1194697]Bills released OG Richie Incognito

This would be a substantial upgrade...but he is a headcase. I would hope we are a strong enough team who could handle a 1 year deal for him. I would at least give them a call.[/quote]

I think he's going to retire but I agree if he stays in the league

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[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000933092/article/xavier-rhodes-headlines-nfls-top-10-cornerbacks-for-2018?campaign=tw-nf-sf189973230-sf189973230&sf189973230=1&utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral]Xavier Rhodes headlines NFL's top 10 cornerbacks for 2018 - NFL.com[/url]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1194698]I think he's going to retire but I agree if he stays in the league[/quote]

I was about to agree, and googled it for back up. Looks like he wants to unretire:

[quote]Adam Schefter
Verified account
@AdamSchefter

Richie Incognito told the Bills he wants to unretire, per source, which is why Buffalo released him from its Reserve/Retired list. Bills and Incognito both moving on - Incognito with hope of playing somewhere else.[/quote]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1194698]I think he's going to retire but I agree if he stays in the league[/quote]

Sign him

[url=http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3291/richie-incognito]Richie Incognito - Unsigned Free Agent - 2018 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com[/url]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1194699][url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000933092/article/xavier-rhodes-headlines-nfls-top-10-cornerbacks-for-2018?campaign=tw-nf-sf189973230-sf189973230&sf189973230=1&utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral]Xavier Rhodes headlines NFL's top 10 cornerbacks for 2018 - NFL.com[/url][/quote]

I have trouble with Sherman being 5 when he is coming back from an achilles. The list looked more like names than who will be the top this coming year.

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[quote=Irrefutable;1194701]Sign him

[url=http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3291/richie-incognito]Richie Incognito - Unsigned Free Agent - 2018 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com[/url][/quote]

Agreed.
80,5 PFF grade, so he's still delivering at nearly 35 years old... if he agrees to a 1y 3M/4M deal, I like that.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1194703]Agreed.
80,5 PFF grade, so he's still delivering at nearly 35 years old... if he agrees to a 1y 3M/4M deal, I like that.[/quote]

he had a base salary of 3.175M that he wanted renegotiated. I imagine he will want closer to $5 total for a one year deal.

I am mixed on this one. Our line would be improved with a guard of his caliber, but when he retired he called the Bills out several times. I could imagine if things go south here, he would be more of a headache than his play would be worth.

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As to Incognito, I just don't see the need to sign a head case like him. Sure, he's got a nasty streak but, it doesn't matter where he has been, it always goes south.

Again, LG is simply not a position of need and certainly not one where you need to sign a 35 year old problem child.

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35 year old head case who wants more money and flirted with retirement? No thanks.

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I think the headcase label a bit overblown. it’s a guarantee on the field he will play on a good and sometimes great level...like he’s done everywhere he’s been. There is zero risk in his play.

I wouldn’t mind him being here on a one year deal. This is exactly the type of cut vet who could fill a gaping hole on the roster.


Did Callahan have him at Nebraska?

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1194702]I have trouble with Sherman being 5 when he is coming back from an achilles. The list looked more like names than who will be the top this coming year.[/quote]

Josh should be top 10 but overall I disagree with the list too

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1194704]he had a base salary of 3.175M that he wanted renegotiated. I imagine he will want closer to $5 total for a one year deal.

I am mixed on this one. Our line would be improved with a guard of his caliber, but when he retired he called the Bills out several times. I could imagine if things go south here, he would be more of a headache than his play would be worth.[/QUOTE]Anyway I really don't think this is the kind of FA our FO is getting after. There are less expensive and less flashy guys available (Jahri Evans, Brian Schwenke ...), my guess is we won't sign anybody unless there's a late cut that we could sign on the cheap.

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This is from an article by Chris Trapasso of cbssports.com on rookies he predicts will make an impact on their teams in 2018:

[U]Greg Stroman, CB, Redskins[/U]

"Like many before him at Virginia Tech, Stroman was a super-productive member of the Hokies secondary for many years. He finished his career in Blacksburg with nine interceptions and 26 pass breakups in three seasons. His smaller size lends itself to outstanding suddenness, which is very useful when covering the slot. Orlando Scandrick can play there, yet I wouldn't rule out Stroman making the most of his opportunities on the inside in a division with the likes of slot targets like Sterling Shepherd, Cole Beasley, and Nelson Agholor."

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[quote=Chico23231;1194707]I think the headcase label a bit overblown. it’s a guarantee on the field he will play on a good and sometimes great level...like he’s done everywhere he’s been. There is zero risk in his play.

I wouldn’t mind him being here on a one year deal. This is exactly the type of cut vet who could fill a gaping hole on the roster.


Did Callahan have him at Nebraska?[/quote]

I agree with you, Chico. Plug Incognito in at LG for one year and we're set until we can find a long-term solution at that position next season. The guy can play. The ideas that some of us have that LG is not an important position or that we're set at LG are misguided, IMO. He could complete our OL.

Yes, he is a major jerk but he's shown he can behave for a while if he must. The Skins would need to put him in a box contractually, as far as his behavior is concerned, and be willing to cut him immediately if he misbehaves.

I'm not too concerned that he might bully Trent Williams, although I'd like to see him try. Actually, Trent's leadership could help keep him in line.

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At the right price I’d take Incognito, why the heck not?

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[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DdzjWLvUwAAJnqn.jpg[/IMG]

Scherff is in that ELITE category of Guards.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1194722][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DdzjWLvUwAAJnqn.jpg[/IMG]

Scherff is in that ELITE category of Guards.[/quote]

Kinda surprised to see Saffold in the list.. I remember he was drafted to be LT for Rams but it didn't went well and he was labeled as bust; good thing for Rams they didn't give up on him.

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[quote=GridIron26;1194723]Kinda surprised to see Saffold in the list.. I remember he was drafted to be LT for Rams but it didn't went well and he was labeled as bust; good thing for Rams they didn't give up on him.[/quote]

That gives me hope about TY playing G this yr... I would still look at Richie if he still wants to play

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I'm really curious how the experiment with Ty will turn out.. We just signed Isiah Williams - apparently he was with us last year, I don't even remember that but then we had to sign multiple Oline players last year.. With lot of LG candidates on our roster, I don't see us signing Richie.

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#Redskins guard Tyler Catalina went down during OTAs yesterday and left practice, per source. Don’t know severity of injury. Will learn more today. This comes a week After Kouandjio out for season w torn quad.

Unreal

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1194733]#Redskins guard Tyler Catalina went down during OTAs yesterday and left practice, per source. Don’t know severity of injury. Will learn more today. This comes a week After Kouandjio out for season w torn quad.

Unreal[/quote]

Catalina just isn't good enough to sweat over this, but the feeling that we always get more injuries than others is indeed weird...