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I hope they go 3-13 next year, get the #1 overall pick and draft Tua.

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If they get the #1 next year they’d be stupid not to take Herbert - QB


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So no updates from the team? Nothing? Jay G hasn’t heard anything? Wtf is going on?

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[quote=Chico23231;1215778]So no updates from the team? Nothing? Jay G hasn’t heard anything? Wtf is going on?[/quote]

I think Danny is behind the curve. Seeking Joe G's advice about his next move indicates he was unprepared for the fan backlash. Maybe he blames everything on the injuries this year, after all we were 6-3 at one point (even though 2 of those losses were absolutely horrible).

He's probably vacationing in the Bahamas trying to drink away the memories of this year, hoping the backlash will die down if he gives it some time.

He probably doesn't even understand why we don't like Bruce Allen.

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Since the retirement of Joe Gibbs after the 1992 season, a full year removed from the Redskins’ last Super Bowl on January 26, 1992, the team has posted a combined, cumulative regular season record of 168 – 230 – 2. The 168 wins is ranked 27th in the NFL, with the following teams being the only franchises that have fewer victories:

28: Rams (166)

29: Jaguars (165)

30: Lions (161)

31: Browns (111)

32: Texans (110)

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1215784]Since the retirement of Joe Gibbs after the 1992 season, a full year removed from the Redskins’ last Super Bowl on January 26, 1992, the team has posted a combined, cumulative regular season record of 168 – 230 – 2. The 168 wins is ranked 27th in the NFL, with the following teams being the only franchises that have fewer victories:



28: Rams (166)



29: Jaguars (165)



30: Lions (161)



31: Browns (111)



32: Texans (110)[/QUOTE]



And it’s important to note that the Texans first season was 2002. Based on the trajectories of the teams, i think it’s safe to say the skins will fall behind the rams, and possibly even jaguars next year.


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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1215778]So no updates from the team? Nothing? Jay G hasn’t heard anything? Wtf is going on?[/QUOTE]



Instead of making critical decisions regarding the future of the franchise, Snyder decided to take a vacation in the Bahamas.


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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1215785]And it’s important to note that the Texans first season was 2002. Based on the trajectories of the teams, i think it’s safe to say the skins will fall behind the rams, and possibly even jaguars next year.


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Cleveland wasn't around for some of those years either.

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"Jay Gruden has one request and that's to have stronger communication between the FO and coaching staff. What does Snyder do? Takes off for the Bahamas without meeting with his head coach."

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1215786]Instead of making critical decisions regarding the future of the franchise, Snyder decided to take a vacation in the Bahamas.


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There might be a simple explanation of why Snyder went on vacation at this time - and you're not going to like it. If Snyder has already decided to retain Bruce Allen and Jay Gruden, then he doesn't have any more urgent decisions to make. All he had to do was to tell them to fix it and then fly off to the Bahamas.

Right about now, his butler is probably delivering him his first Bahama Mamma of the day to drink on the beach. No problem, mon!

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1215789]There might be a simple explanation of why Snyder went on vacation at this time - and you're not going to like it. If Snyder has already decided to retain Bruce Allen and Jay Gruden, then he doesn't have any more urgent decisions to make. All he had to do was to tell them to fix it and then fly off to the Bahamas.



Right about now, his butler is probably delivering him his first Bahama Mamma of the day to drink on the beach. No problem, mon![/QUOTE]


Well if he’s decided Jay is staying, he certainly didn’t communicate that to him before he left. As of his press conference on Monday, jay had not spoken with dan and was twisting in the wind. That’s a pretty big dick move in my opinion.


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Just because no one on the Redskins got fired on block Monday, you are mistaken. Changes are coming

[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/jay-gruden-knows-changes-are-coming-redskins-unsure-where-or-when[/url]

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1215794]Just because no one on the Redskins got fired on block Monday, you are mistaken. Changes are coming

[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/jay-gruden-knows-changes-are-coming-redskins-unsure-where-or-when[/url][/quote]

If Allen and Gruden aren't replaced, it will be all for naught. Firing assistant coaches and keeping the real culprits (GM and HC) never works.

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1215799]If Allen and Gruden aren't replaced, it will be all for naught. Firing assistant coaches and keeping the real culprits (GM and HC) never works.[/QUOTE]


Like every other Redskins fan, I agree with you on Allen, but I’m not remotely excited about any of the HC candidates on the open market. For this year, atleast, it makes sense to stick with Jay unless/until some other candidate emerged.




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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1215801]Like every other Redskins fan, I agree with you on Allen, but I’m not remotely excited about any of the HC candidates on the open market. For this year, atleast, it makes sense to stick with Jay unless/until some other candidate emerged.[/quote]

I'm on same page with you - I believe the FO must improve before getting a new head coach. Any coach will have difficult time achieving winning seasons with current FO.

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I think Dan himself doesn't know what he wants to do yet. He's probably mulling it over. I'm sure he's already recognizing that if he fires either Allen or Gruden then he'll have to replace them, and he doesn't have a damn clue how to go about choosing the right successor. So he'll eventually stick with them.

If we get a new defensive coordinator I'll still view that as a step in the right direction, even if Allen remains in place.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;1215814]I think Dan himself doesn't know what he wants to do yet. He's probably mulling it over. I'm sure he's already recognizing that if he fires either Allen or Gruden then he'll have to replace them, and he doesn't have a damn clue how to go about choosing the right successor. So he'll eventually stick with them.



If we get a new defensive coordinator I'll still view that as a step in the right direction, even if Allen remains in place.[/QUOTE]


What are the chances Dan knows he needs to make a change and get rid of Allen (and possibly Gruden), but doesn’t know WHAT that change will be yet? What if he left for the Bahamas specifically to get away from Allen so he can evaluate his options (and make phone calls) to potential replacements without the Prince of Darkness looking over his shoulder? The Bahamas would be a nice place (removed from reporters) to secretly meet with a potential franchise savior.

I know this is all unlikely, but i have to believe there will be some significant change. Regardless of what Snyder thinks, he must by now realize how horribly he’s underestimated how bad the situation is. He must know he has to do some kind of major shakeup if he wants to get the fans interested again.


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I'm kind of erring on the side of keeping Gruden for one more season, putting Kyle Smith in charge and seeing what happens. What coach would want to come here giving the state that the organization is in? At least if they feel there's a more, stable, person as GM running football operations, then if you have to can Gruden next year, then you feel like you have some guys in the front office that are well respected.

We all know Snyder isn't selling the team.

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If that final game in our stadium where we were SHUT OUT, where shit-bird Eagles fans outnumbered Redskins fans TWO to ONE, where our offense couldn't hear the QB call signals in our own stadium, and where Redskins fans were taunted by shit-bird Eagles fans on their way out of our own stadium wasn't humiliating enough to make Snyder want to clean house, then someone should check his sorry ass for a pulse.

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1215824]If that final game in our stadium where we were SHUT OUT, where shit-bird Eagles fans outnumbered Redskins fans TWO to ONE, where our offense couldn't hear the QB call signals in our own stadium, and where Redskins fans were taunted by shit-bird Eagles fans on their way out of our own stadium wasn't humiliating enough to make Snyder want to clean house, then someone should check his sorry ass for a pulse.[/QUOTE]



Two to one? It was much worse than that brother


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That last game was as embarrassing as it gets for any organization. The fact that you had nobody but eagles fans show up to a HOME GAME is an all time low.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1215827]That last game was as embarrassing as it gets for any organization. The fact that you had nobody but eagles fans show up to a HOME GAME is an all time low.[/QUOTE]



There was video of them bullying and scaring Redskins fans out of their own parking lot


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Interesting Tweet from Mike Lombardi

[URL="https://twitter.com/mlombardiNFL/status/1079751561788751872/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1079751561788751872&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Farticles%2F2813295-mike-freemans-10-point-stance-is-the-rooney-rule-broken"]https://twitter.com/mlombardiNFL/status/1079751561788751872/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1079751561788751872&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Farticles%2F2813295-mike-freemans-10-point-stance-is-the-rooney-rule-broken[/URL]

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Not sure if he’s stating the obvious regarding Snyder’s frustration or if he has any insider knowledge, but found this tweet from Chris Russell interesting:

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As I said on @1067theFan yesterday & I believe it is still true today - I like that Dan Snyder hasn't fired anybody (yet) to allow his emotions & anger to calm down. He's frustrated as all hell (as he should be) but the right thing to do is to think hard before you do something.[/quote]




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^ True but I think it's mostly he doesn't know what the heck to do

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[quote=MTK;1215832]^ True but I think it's mostly he doesn't know what the heck to do[/quote]



I agree dan doesn't know what to do hell its only been 20 years now …

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[quote=gibbsrcnfan;1215837]I agree dan doesn't know what to do hell its only been 20 years now …[/quote]

Selling the team to the Milstein brothers might be a good and just option on what he should do...Snyder was going to be a minority owner under the Milstein brothers initially....

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1215839]Selling the team to the Milstein brothers might be a good and just option on what he should do...Snyder was going to be a minority owner under the Milstein brothers initially....[/quote]

yeah I keep going back to him too where all began back then and yes im with you there

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The fact that everything is silent, and there’s been no word from Washington is telling.

Also, Gruden has been there for what, 5 years? He said it himself a week before season end. That he always had a season ending, wrap up meeting with Snyder to review everything. It’s telling that it hasn’t happened this year, and Gruden hasn’t even heard from him.

Something is up. Hopefully something BIG




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[QUOTE=5superbowls3wins;1215844]The fact that everything is silent, and there’s been no word from Washington is telling.

Also, Gruden has been there for what, 5 years? He said it himself a week before season end. That he always had a season ending, wrap up meeting with Snyder to review everything. It’s telling that it hasn’t happened this year, and Gruden hasn’t even heard from him.

Something is up. Hopefully something BIG




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The least Snyder could do is call jay up to say, “I’m firing Bruce. Will you tell him for me? I’m too busy sipping on pina coladas and he doesn’t deserve the respect of hearing it from me.”


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My Thinking on this whole deal is Dan needs to do what he needs to do to
bring in the people.Get out of the way but we know he won't.silence can be a good thing but then again ...not really ... Looking for that bigger pig to put lipstick on. Hope he eventually gets it right . ,You know it's only been 20 years ..

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[QUOTE=5superbowls3wins;1215844]The fact that everything is silent, and there’s been no word from Washington is telling.

Also, Gruden has been there for what, 5 years? He said it himself a week before season end. That he always had a season ending, wrap up meeting with Snyder to review everything. It’s telling that it hasn’t happened this year, and Gruden hasn’t even heard from him.

Something is up. Hopefully something BIG




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I fear the BIG move from Snyder as much as no move. Too many things are f’ed up to trust that we’re one GM or one HC or one FA signing away from getting right. Methodical tear-down and rebuild over 2-3 years is needed, and if Snyder doesn’t see it now, he should stay the course with Allen and Gruden and see it after possibly being humiliated on Hard Knocks and going 4-12 next season. By then maybe the prospect of a humbled owner, a high 2020 draft pick, and a no-place-to-go-but-up scenario would be attractive to a new FO and HC. Snyder has no credibility right now to attract talent of any consequence.

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Heading toward rock bottom and fast ..we're the sports version of misery ....Great post HTTR

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[QUOTE=gibbsrcnfan;1215851]Heading toward rock bottom and fast ..we're the sports version of misery ....Great post HTTR[/QUOTE]



I think it’s safe to say we’re already at rock bottom, at least from a dysfunction standpoint.


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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1215852]I think it’s safe to say we’re already at rock bottom, at least from a dysfunction standpoint.


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Yes they are being disfunctional and mediocrity is what they are for sure..

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Was listening to Czaban's show this afternoon and he pointed out, it's Wednesday and we still don't know if Jay gruden is the coach.

That's messed up on a whole other level.

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Gruden is under contract so until someone says otherwise he’s the coach.


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There is no point of firing Gruden if Allen is still here. If anything its worse. Allen hasn't been fired, so I'm glad Gruden is still here.

Bruce is problems 2-98 with this franchise. Jay and Manusky are 99,100.