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[quote=Ruhskins;1338322]I think what is going in Snyder's favor is the market. Sports in general see the East Coast as a desirable TV market (see Big 10 deal that brought in Rutgers and Maryland).

On the other hands, potential buyers are aware that Snyder is in a quasi "must sell" situation. With that in mind, they are not going to be over bid for the team.[/quote]

7 billion and have to build a 3-4 billion dollar stadium going to be a hard sell.

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This was sort of stunning, but then again not surprising: Washington has averaged 20 or more points per game only FIVE times since 2000. They're 28th in PPG since that year. They've averaged fewer than 18 ppg 12 times. EB can provide a jump; he'll need help from others. KEIM

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1338329]Since 2018 Washington has had 12 different QBs start a game. That’s 4 more than 2nd place Denver , Miami and Indy.

Yikes


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It felt like more. Sheesh.


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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1338290]4 bids is good action for a sale this big. The big question is Bezos one of the four because he is very interested. He coming in at a point with a bid[/QUOTE]


Let’s hope that the tour doesn’t include prospective owners being showered in toilet water while walking through the stadium.

In all seriousness, the worry about Wright flying to LA to ink Bienemy doesn’t concern me. In fact, landing him may help sell a buyer that some pieces are coming together for immediate improvement.

Man - get this done.


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Honestly the day this becomes official will be like our Super Bowl.. I can't wait until DS is GONE

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[quote=calia;1338366]Let’s hope that the tour doesn’t include prospective owners being showered in toilet water while walking through the stadium.

In all seriousness, the worry about Wright flying to LA to ink Bienemy doesn’t concern me. In fact, landing him may help sell a buyer that some pieces are coming together for immediate improvement.

Man - get this done.


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I swear the city should honestly throw a parade once the deal is finish. Good riddance to a guy who ruined this franchise

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[quote=Chico23231;1338372]I swear the city should honestly throw a parade once the deal is finish. Good riddance to a guy who ruined this franchise[/quote]

We are definitely for sure, 100% doing an impromptu tailgate party at Fed Ex

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Every day, I wake up hoping to see news that the deal is imminent. Literally, I do this before having a cup of coffee. I suspect I am not alone.

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just wait until the next owner isn't any better...

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[QUOTE=That Guy;1338384]just wait until the next owner isn't any better...[/QUOTE]


Dude, seriously, if that’s what you think, why haven’t you left? It’s hard to imagine a new owner doing any worse.


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[quote=calia;1338385]Dude, seriously, if that’s what you think, why haven’t you left? It’s hard to imagine a new owner doing any worse.


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Just wait until the new owner fires Ron and replaces him with Jeff George who's never coached at any level before.

:laughing2

"I saw the glory days of the early 2000's and thought he was the best guy for the job."

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Ben Standig just reported that we are expected to franchise tag Payne. Great move if/when this happens. I'm a little bit leery of signing Payne to multi years contract since he blew up in the contract year, plus there are some reports stating that Payne doesn't interact much with rest of the Dline players. I think I would prefer for us to tag him 1 or 2 times then let him go.

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[quote=GridIron26;1338426]Ben Standig just reported that we are expected to franchise tag Payne. Great move if/when this happens. I'm a little bit leery of signing Payne to multi years contract since he blew up in the contract year, plus there are some reports stating that Payne doesn't interact much with rest of the Dline players. I think I would prefer for us to tag him 1 or 2 times then let him go.[/quote]

Tagging him once is the way to go. Leary of the 2nd tag though. Gets more expensive and never gets us anywhere.

I think getting 6 years of solid to very good play is a worthy investment of a 1st round pick. If we can't extend him, I'd let him walk after this year, with a hearty handshake on the way out.

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If we're going down the tag road with him it better lead to a trade or long term deal. Can't just tag him twice and let him walk.

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Payne had a great year, and he deserves his pay day. However, I am hoping that the intent is to tag him, then let him see if he can negotiate a deal with another club. I don't think we'd get two first round picks for him, but I'm sure we can flip him for something better than a future late 3rd round compensatory pick. Then use the $19 million saved to upgrade the O-line, and LB/CB. We'd still have a very solid D-line with Sweat, Allen, Mathis, Ridgeway, Obada, Young...

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[quote=MTK;1338429]If we're going down the tag road with him it better lead to a trade or long term deal. Can't just tag him twice and let him walk.[/quote]

I think they'll trade him

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[quote=MTK;1338429]If we're going down the tag road with him it better lead to a trade or long term deal. Can't just tag him twice and let him walk.[/quote]

6 years of solid play and a likely 3rd down compensatory pick is a pretty good use of a 1st round pick. I hope they keep him, but it takes 2 to party, and some guys staying just isn't in the cards.

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5 years of solid play, keep the $19 million, and acquire a couple more picks would be even better.

Can't keep them all, and I think we can get by without him while using that $$ and potential picks to upgrade other areas of need.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1338435]5 years of solid play, keep the $19 million, and acquire a couple more picks would be even better.

Can't keep them all, and I think we can get by without him while using that $$ and potential picks to upgrade other areas of need.[/quote]

I'm not against trading him, if we can get up to a 2nd rounder or a combination of picks.

But I think the most feasible plan for next year is that we either extend him or he plays here on the tag.

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Yeah as really wished Eric was a head coach in the very first place. But hey he will take what he can get.

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[quote=MTK;1338429]If we're going down the tag road with him it better lead to a trade or long term deal. Can't just tag him twice and let him walk.[/quote]

This is his first tag.

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Oh joy, can't wait for them to resign Bostic.

Nicki Jhabvala on Twitter

The Commanders signed LB David Mayo and RB Jonathan Williams to one-year contract extensions.

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Not the UFA LB I was hoping they would bring back...

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We are the kings of the random dudes that stay around forever.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1338498]We are the kings of the random dudes that stay around forever.[/QUOTE]


He played for Carolina he isn’t ever going anywhere. He checks all of Rons boxes,….
A) played for Carolina
B) familiar with the system

Means he can nap for extra long instead of coaching someone up.

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[quote=punch it in;1338521]He played for Carolina he isn’t ever going anywhere. He checks all of Rons boxes,….
A) played for Carolina
B) familiar with the system

Means he can nap for extra long instead of coaching someone up.[/quote]

I don't understand how Ron can look at the linebacking corp from the last 3 years (Davis excluded) and think anyone is worthy of bringing back.

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I would try to bring Holcomb back for the right price. Mayo is going to get the bulk of his reps on ST, not on defense unless there's injury. They are in 2 LB sets the majority of time, so it will likely be Davis and Holcomb again - or his replacement if they let him move on.

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I would draft a LB in the first 4 rounds. Holcomb is a great depth guy to have around but I am still not sold on him as a starter.

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[quote=punch it in;1338542]I would draft a LB in the first 4 rounds. Holcomb is a great depth guy to have around but I am still not sold on him as a starter.[/quote]

While I’m all for using a pick on a LB later in the draft, but could you imagine tagging Payne and then adding Wagner next to Jamin Davis?

Adding a vet a LB the caliber of Wagner to this defense, I think it’s a top 5, maybe top 3.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1338546]While I’m all for using a pick on a LB later in the draft, but could you imagine tagging Payne and then adding Wagner next to Jamin Davis?

Adding a vet a LB the caliber of Wagner to this defense, I think it’s a top 5, maybe top 3.[/QUOTE]


Adding Wagner would certainly change that. Yes.

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Looks like Jamies Winston will be available. Anyone want to eat a W?

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[quote=skinsfan69;1338568]Looks like Jamies Winston will be available. Anyone want to eat a W?[/quote]

Fuck no

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[quote=skinsfan69;1338568]Looks like Jamies Winston will be available. Anyone want to eat a W?[/quote]

No.

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Chad Henne would be the perfect type of veteran to come in and help mentor Howell, assuming he wants to keep playing.

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[quote=MTK;1338571]Chad Henne would be the perfect type of veteran to come in and help mentor Howell, assuming he wants to keep playing.[/quote]


I believe he just retired . . .

Source: [URL="https://www.nfl.com/news/chiefs-qb-chad-henne-announces-retirement-following-super-bowl-lvii-victory#:~:text=Chad%20Henne%20is%20retiring%20a,Eagles%20in%20Super%20Bowl%20LVII."]https://www.nfl.com/news/chiefs-qb-chad-henne-announces-retirement-following-super-bowl-lvii-victory#:~:text=Chad%20Henne%20is%20retiring%20a,Eagles%20in%20Super%20Bowl%20LVII.[/URL]

[quote]Chad Henne is retiring a Super Bowl champion.

The Chiefs backup quarterback announced his retirement through Instagram on Sunday following Kansas City's 38-35 victory over the Philadelphia Eagles in Super Bowl LVII.[/quote]

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[quote=SkinsGuru;1338580]I believe he just retired . . .

Source: [URL="https://www.nfl.com/news/chiefs-qb-chad-henne-announces-retirement-following-super-bowl-lvii-victory#:~:text=Chad%20Henne%20is%20retiring%20a,Eagles%20in%20Super%20Bowl%20LVII."]https://www.nfl.com/news/chiefs-qb-chad-henne-announces-retirement-following-super-bowl-lvii-victory#:~:text=Chad%20Henne%20is%20retiring%20a,Eagles%20in%20Super%20Bowl%20LVII.[/URL][/quote]

yeah that's why I said assuming he wants to play

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The Commanders are releasing DB Bobby McCain, source confirms.
(
@AdamSchefter
1st).

Washington developed a young safety corps, which pushed McCain to nickel corner.

SFredskins gonna be happy!

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[quote=Chico23231;1338582]The Commanders are releasing DB Bobby McCain, source confirms.
(
@AdamSchefter
1st).

Washington developed a young safety corps, which pushed McCain to nickel corner.

SFredskins gonna be happy![/quote]

That's kinda surprising, not that I'm complaining. Does that mean Butler will be the nickel CB in some plays?

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[quote=GridIron26;1338583]That's kinda surprising, not that I'm complaining. Does that mean Butler will be the nickel CB in some plays?[/quote]

Guess he is expendable now that Apke is back :D

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1338584]Guess he is expendable now that Apke is back :D[/quote]

I just threw up in my mouth a little when I read that.

Honestly, McCain had flashes here and there -- frustrating player in that respect. Got beat too often for a starter. It feels to me like the safety position hasn't been emphasized in recent years. I can't think of a safety in the game now that I would characterize as dominant the way that guys like Ed Reed, Earl Thomas, Ronnie Lott, and, of course, Sean Taylor were. Derwin James, and a handful of other guys like Minkah Fitzpatrick are good (even very good), but teams aren't really designing plays to avoid them. It's such an awesome position (to me, at least) when done right.