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[quote=Mechanix544;718036]Oh, and yeah, lets let all of these people with communicable diseases into the Army, where I as a medic am going to be at a RIDICULOUSLY increased risk of contracting HIV/AIDS/HERPES/HEPSATITIS/all other STD's when dealing with these gays on the battlefield where open blood is commonplace.

Sorry, stay at home and go to your parades. Id rather die from the enemy than die from some gay ally who gave me aids while I was bandaging him up. Just the risk from exposure should ban them from military service. And knowing their sexuality increases the likeliehood of them contracting an STD and passing along the military ranks, come on, gimme a break.[/quote]

Wow.

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Wow, it's getting ugly.

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[quote=Mechanix544;718034]Here u are.

It takes approximately $300,000 to take care of each AIDS victim, so thanks to the promiscuous lifestyle of homosexuals, medical insurance rates have been skyrocketing for all of us(10).


Close-up of one of the New York "Gay Parades"

Homosexuals were responsible for spreading AIDS in the United States, and then raised up violent groups like Act Up and Ground Zero to complain about it.[B] Even today, homosexuals account for well over 50% of the AIDS cases in the United States, which is quite a large number considering that they account for only 1-2% of the population. [/B]
Homosexuals account for a disproportionate number of hepatitis cases: 70-80% in San Francisco, 29% in Denver, 66% in New York City, 56% in Toronto, 42% in Montreal, and 26% in Melbourne (8).
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37% of homosexuals engage in sadomasochism, which accounts for many accidental deaths. In San Francisco, classes were held to teach homosexuals how to not kill their partners during sadomasochism (8).
41% of homosexuals say they have had sex with strangers in public restrooms, 60% say they have had sex with strangers in bathhouses, and 64% of these encounters have involved the use of illegal drugs (8).
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[B]The median age of death of homosexuals is 42 (only 9% live past age 65). This drops to 39 if the cause of death is AIDS[/B]. The median age of death of a married heterosexual man is 75 (8).
The median age of death of lesbians is 45 (only 24% live past age 65). The median age of death of a married heterosexual woman is 79 (8).
Homosexuals are 100 times more likely to be murdered (usually by another homosexual) than the average person, 25 times more likely to commit suicide, and 19 times more likely to die in a traffic accident (8).
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There is a notable homosexual group, consisting of thousands of members, known as the North American Man and Boy Love Association ( NAMBLA). This is a child molesting homosexual group whose cry is "SEX BEFORE 8 BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE." This group can be seen marching in most major homosexual parades across the United States.
[B]Homosexuals commit more than 33% of all reported child molestations in the United States[/B], which, assuming homosexuals make up 2% of the population, means that 1 in 20 homosexuals is a child molestor, while 1 in 490 heterosexuals is a child molestor (19).
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Of homosexuals questioned in one study reports that 43% admit to 500 or more partners in a lifetime, 28% admit to 1000 or more in a lifetime, and of these people, 79% say that half of those partners are total strangers, and 70% of those sexual contacts are one night stands (or, as one homosexual admits in the film "The Castro", one minute stands) (3). Also, it is a favorite past-time of many homosexuals to go to "cruisy areas" and have anonymous sex.
[B]78% of homosexuals are affected by STDs [/B](20).[/quote]

Aren't these numbers a bit skewed by the fact that homesexuals, as you say, make up about 2% of the population?

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[quote=Mechanix544;718037]And a couple more..........
To date, the Bagley & Tremblay (1997) study remains as the only study to have used a household-based random sampling technique - stratified random sampling - producing both a sample of homosexually oriented males and of their heterosexual counterparts for comparison purposes. This study replicated the Bell & Weinberg (1978) results and is also the best and most recent indicator available of the "self-harm" at risk status of homosexually oriented males. Compared to heterosexual males, homosexually oriented males (12.7% of sample) accounted for 26% of males in the "self-harm" category (including suicide attempts) and 62.5% of suicide attempters. They were 3-times more at risk for reporting "self-harm" and almost 14-times more at risk for reporting having attempted suicide.
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In 2008, CDC estimated that approximately 56,300 people were newly infected with HIV in 20061 (the most recent year that data are available). Over half (53%) of these new infections occurred in gay and bisexual men. Black/African American men and women were also strongly affected and were estimated to have an incidence rate than was 7 times as high as the incidence rate among whites.



Just a coincidence though, right?

Wait, probably some problem with my sources. I am sure that the United States CDC is conservatively biased. You know what, thats true, its prolly just a bunch of hogwash. I think we should all embrace homosexuality, and all of the drugs, diseases, suicide and legal constipation it brings...............lol[/quote]

I can't understand why they would feel suicidal. I mean they're so easily accepted in society. It just makes no sense.

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[quote=Mechanix544;718037]And a couple more..........
To date, the Bagley & Tremblay (1997) study remains as the only study to have used a household-based random sampling technique - stratified random sampling - producing both a sample of homosexually oriented males and of their heterosexual counterparts for comparison purposes. This study replicated the Bell & Weinberg (1978) results and is also the best and most recent indicator available of the "self-harm" at risk status of homosexually oriented males. Compared to heterosexual males, homosexually oriented males (12.7% of sample) accounted for 26% of males in the "self-harm" category (including suicide attempts) and 62.5% of suicide attempters. They were 3-times more at risk for reporting "self-harm" and almost 14-times more at risk for reporting having attempted suicide.
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In 2008, CDC estimated that approximately 56,300 people were newly infected with HIV in 20061 (the most recent year that data are available). Over half (53%) of these new infections occurred in gay and bisexual men. Black/African American men and women were also strongly affected and were estimated to have an incidence rate than was 7 times as high as the incidence rate among whites.



Just a coincidence though, right?

Wait, probably some problem with my sources. I am sure that the United States CDC is conservatively biased. You know what, thats true, its prolly just a bunch of hogwash. I think we should all embrace homosexuality, and all of the drugs, diseases, suicide and legal constipation it brings...............lol[/quote]

So Mech, I take it that you don't any gay people?

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And I never got this fear people have that if a guy is gay they must be checking you out. I don't assume every heterosexual girl is checking me out (even though they probably are :) ), so why should I assume every gay guy is ogling me. That makes no sense to me

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[quote=SmootSmack;718041]I can't understand why they would feel suicidal. I mean they're so easily accepted in society. It just makes no sense.[/quote]

Yeah no stress, it's easy to see why some people make that lifestyle choice.

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LOL...they already serve with you and you don't know who has it...not that heterosexuals don't.

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America doesn't people like [url=http://www.ct.gov/dcf/lib/dcf/wmv/pdf/gay_military_hero.pdf]this[/url] defending our right to treat him like less than a human being!

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what a ridiculous argument. it basically boils down to what you believe. are you born that way, or is it your choice?

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I have the cure for AIDS. Anyone with common sense knows what it is. It doesn't cost any money, there isn't a need for a march, or any government funding or research.

(1) Get married

(2) Don't cheat

(3) Don't shoot dope

(4) Stay away from hospitals and blood donations. (This is extreme but they do eff up every once in awhile)

If you follow those rules, you'll be AIDS (and most other diseases) free. Homosexuals don't really get this?

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[quote=SmootSmack;718040]Aren't these numbers a bit skewed by the fact that homesexuals, as you say, make up about 2% of the population?[/quote]

SmootSmack, they are not skewed.(And what is up with the blaming the suicides of homosexuals on the public who disagree with their orientation? Pass the buck much? Pretty Lame. They made their bed, lay in it.) The point is that even tho they only make up that % of the population, they are still responsible for over 53% of the HIV/AIDS infections and over 1/3 of the child molestation charges in the country.

And where is all these comments coming from that I dont like them ogling me? Never said I had a problem with that, they can do what they want. But just dont expect my tax dollars to go to your healthcare when your sexual orientation had everything to do with you contracting several diseases, some of which are debilitating and very costly to treat. I've treated plenty of people with HIV/AID in nursing homes, most of the in their 40's, early 50's, all of them gay. That is not just a coincidence.

And I didn't even notice that the life expectancy of a homsexual is 20 years shorter than that of a heterosexual. Fairly suprising fact..........didn't expect it to be that drastic. But when over 75% of homosexuals say they have over 150+ sexual partners in their lifetime, well, it just seems like with all this information out there, they are asking for it. I feel not one bit of sorrow for any homosexual who contracts these diseases. They did bring it on themselves. Sorry, but the truth hurts.

And yes, it is getting ugly. These statistics are very ugly. But they are accurate, and that is sad.

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[quote=SmootSmack;718049]America doesn't people like [url=http://www.ct.gov/dcf/lib/dcf/wmv/pdf/gay_military_hero.pdf]this[/url] defending our right to treat him like less than a human being![/quote]

When was the last time the military won a war? Hero? What is he fighting for? Freedom? The military is a worthless institution now. I left when they started putting in women. Oh I'm sorry! Am I being politically incorrect? I don't like taking showers with homosexuals. If I wanted to take orders from a woman I'd get married. So you can keep the military. A lot of good that military did us on 9/11. They couldn't ever stop a bunch of terrorist with box cutters.

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[quote=12thMan;718042]So Mech, I take it that you don't any gay people?[/quote]

12th, no, I dont any gay people..........


If you were asking if I know any gay people, the answer is, of course. I have 2 gay guys whom I call friends. But as friends, they also know that I completely disagree with their lifestyle choices, and we leave it at that.

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One can only hope that some of you guys end up with a gay child. Oh man that sure would be a bitch.