Re: Do You Want Jason Campbell Back in 2010?
 

I say yes. My reasoning would be that how do you evaluate this guy with everything that happened?

My two big negatives for evaluating -

- Crappy o-line in front of him
- Playcalling change mid-season

And then I look at his body of work and say, well he still didn't have that horrible of a season in spite of everything that happened and he's shown enough for me to say that with a decent o-line in front of him his prospects would probably fare better, I'd say keep him. As a gm I wouldn't give him that multi-year deal with long term security but I'd give him at least another season or two to gauge him.

But as a GM I'd also have to consider the prospects of another team wanting to sign him. In the event he remains a restricted free agent all offseason (I'm not too sure what the deal is with that) and teams came at me with decent offers, such as a 1st/3rd or even a 1st/2nd to sign him then I'd have to consider what might be the best deal for the new coach/long term future of the team might be.

Re: Do You Want Jason Campbell Back in 2010?
 

[quote=GusFrerotte;648246]Quinn absolutely sucks Big Hair. How can you get pulled for Derek Anderson? Last decent NFL QB from ND was Joey T. It is like a curse or something, even bigger than the Madden curse.[/quote]

How about Joe Montana?

Re: Do You Want Jason Campbell Back in 2010?
 

[quote=GusFrerotte;648246]Quinn absolutely sucks Big Hair. How can you get pulled for Derek Anderson? Last decent NFL QB from ND was Joey T. It is like a curse or something, even bigger than the Madden curse.[/quote]

Actually Anderson got pulled for Quinn this year, and he only got his job back when Quinn went on IR with a broken foot.

Re: Do You Want Jason Campbell Back in 2010?
 

[quote=mooby;649245]... teams came at me with decent offers, such as a 1st/3rd or even a 1st/2nd to sign him then I'd have to consider what might be the best deal for the new coach/long term future of the team might be. ...[/quote]

You are overreaching by a large margin with those expectations, but a trade is the best case scenario at this point.

One thing I have realized this year is that if you have to consistently make excuses for a quarterback then you do not have a very good player.

Re: Do You Want Jason Campbell Back in 2010?
 

It's almost torture for him because here comes yet another system and yet another patchwork offensive line. We should keep him because there are no FA QBs that we will land that will be better and we need many other areas that need to be addressed before QB.

Re: Do You Want Jason Campbell Back in 2010?
 

The only way I'd have him back is as 'cannon fodder'. By that I mean that if we are in a rebuilding year, why beat up a young QB.

Re: Do You Want Jason Campbell Back in 2010?
 

His final numbers:

3,618 yards, 20 TDs, 15 INTs, 64.5% completions, 86.4 rating

All while playing behind a bad OL. Seems like a guy worth keeping around to me.

Re: Do You Want Jason Campbell Back in 2010?
 

[quote=Mattyk;649409]His final numbers:

3,618 yards, 20 TDs, 15 INTs, 64.5% completions, 86.4 rating

All while playing behind a bad OL. Seems like a guy worth keeping around to me.[/quote]

I've already tried using this logic in other threads Matty. There are still many people who don't want Campbell back. Campbell's name is associated with bad seasons and for that reason he's the scapegoat. I think there are many more areas that need to be addressed first. Get rid of the below average players before the ones who finished slightly above average.

Re: Do You Want Jason Campbell Back in 2010?
 

[quote=Mattyk;649409]His final numbers:

3,618 yards, 20 TDs, 15 INTs, 64.5% completions, 86.4 rating

All while playing behind a bad OL. Seems like a guy worth keeping around to me.[/quote]

Just an FYI - Carson Palmer's numbers:

3,094, 21 TDs, 13 INTs, 60.5% completions, 83.6 rating

Re: Do You Want Jason Campbell Back in 2010?
 

[quote=SKINS73;649430]Just an FYI - Carson Palmer's numbers:

3,094, 21 TDs, 13 INTs, 60.5% completions, 83.6 rating[/quote]

Plus a far better running game and line for Carson.


The poll answer is YES.

Re: Do You Want Jason Campbell Back in 2010?
 

[quote=Mattyk;649409]His final numbers:

3,618 yards, 20 TDs, 15 INTs, 64.5% completions, 86.4 rating

All while playing behind a bad OL. Seems like a guy worth keeping around to me.[/quote]Very servicable numbers considering that this team had a terrible running game and subpar pass protection. The Snyder Doctrine of drafting perimeter/skill position players (especially DB's and WR's) has failed Campbell and the franchise miserably. I don't care if Eric Berry is the 2nd coming of Ed Reed in the 2010 draft. Consistently good teams win the battle in the trenches. It is high time to address the O-line early and often. Give Campbell a fighting chance in the pocket - even Tom Brady could not function behind this sieve.

Re: Do You Want Jason Campbell Back in 2010?
 

I'll be happy with the decision that the new administration makes, because it's not Cerrato's dumb ass.

Re: Do You Want Jason Campbell Back in 2010?
 

[quote=SKINS73;649430]Just an FYI - Carson Palmer's numbers:

3,094, 21 TDs, 13 INTs, 60.5% completions, 83.6 rating[/quote]

before yesterday's game on JC's 3,000 passing yds, more than 2,000 came after the catch. about 58% of his pass yds are from yac. thats by far more than any other team in the nfl.

he is what he is. an average qb with most of his completions being within 10 yds.

Re: Do You Want Jason Campbell Back in 2010?
 

[quote=over the mountain;649504]before yesterday's game on JC's 3,000 passing yds, more than 2,000 came after the catch. about 58% of his pass yds are from yac. thats by far more than any other team in the nfl.

he is what he is. an average qb with most of his completions being within 10 yds.[/quote]

He's also what virtually every analyst who did a Redskins game said he is, a QB that a team can win with. He's not, and will probably never will be, elite at the level of a Peyton, Brady, Brees but in the right situation I think he can be every bit of the Eli, Schaub, McNabb type of QB. He's not going to carry a team but he's not going to torpedo your teams chances either.

Re: Do You Want Jason Campbell Back in 2010?
 

[quote=Mattyk;649409]His final numbers:

3,618 yards, 20 TDs, 15 INTs, 64.5% completions, 86.4 rating

All while playing behind a bad OL. Seems like a guy worth keeping around to me.[/quote]

mark brunell had similar numbers and everyone wanted to run him off.