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JoeRedskin 03-05-2010 04:05 PM

Re: Schefter: "There's no way" the Rams won't pick Sam Bradford at No. 1
 
If Suh is there when we pick, we find someone to ransom him off too. As a player, he is a luxury at one of the few positions we are set. As trade bait, he is gold waiting to be cashed in.

53Fan 03-05-2010 04:09 PM

Re: Schefter: "There's no way" the Rams won't pick Sam Bradford at No. 1
 
^ And gold is going up all the time. :)

Trample the Elderly 03-05-2010 06:33 PM

Re: Schefter: "There's no way" the Rams won't pick Sam Bradford at No. 1
 
[quote=JoeRedskin;670215]If Suh is there when we pick, we find someone to ransom him off too. As a player, he is a luxury at one of the few positions we are set. As trade bait, he is gold waiting to be cashed in.[/quote]

I wouldn't mind picking him either if we go to a 3-4. If we didn't need a whole new offensive line he and Taylor Mays would be my choice. Well at least right now.

The Goat 03-05-2010 06:58 PM

Re: Schefter: "There's no way" the Rams won't pick Sam Bradford at No. 1
 
I mean the thing w/ Suh is it all depends whether he can dominate as NT in the 3-4 since we'll see it a fair bit. I sorta think back to last year w/ BJ Raji. Understandably injury held him back but in general he found it hard to adjust to the 3-4. Very hard to say if Suh would make an immediate impact.

I also doubt Haslett would stay in a 4-3 base just because we got Suh. We got awesome dline play last year, especially when Griff was 100%. Coming up we had Jarmon coming into his own possibly at LDE and Alexander progressing as a rotation lineman. Haslett is forcing the 3-4 regardless of personnel is my feeling so again everything depends about Suh's ability in the 3-4.

Ruhskins 03-05-2010 11:59 PM

Re: Schefter: "There's no way" the Rams won't pick Sam Bradford at No. 1
 
[quote=The Goat;670259]I mean the thing w/ Suh is it all depends whether he can dominate as NT in the 3-4 since we'll see it a fair bit. I sorta think back to last year w/ BJ Raji. Understandably injury held him back but in general he found it hard to adjust to the 3-4. Very hard to say if Suh would make an immediate impact.

I also doubt Haslett would stay in a 4-3 base just because we got Suh. We got awesome dline play last year, especially when Griff was 100%. Coming up we had Jarmon coming into his own possibly at LDE and Alexander progressing as a rotation lineman. Haslett is forcing the 3-4 regardless of personnel is my feeling so again everything depends about Suh's ability in the 3-4.[/quote]

I think Suh and McCoy would be good 3-4 DEs. I think we should pick up Jamal Williams for a year or two, and maybe pick up Dan Williams (329 lbs) from Tennessee or Cam Thomas (330 lbs) from UNC; they seem to have the physique to be 3-4 NTs.

Pocket$ $traight 03-06-2010 12:11 AM

Re: Schefter: "There's no way" the Rams won't pick Sam Bradford at No. 1
 
[quote=JoeRedskin;670215]If Suh is there when we pick, we find someone to ransom him off too. As a player, he is a luxury at one of the few positions we are set. As trade bait, he is gold waiting to be cashed in.[/quote]

I don't know...I kind of prefer handing our pick card to the commissioner before he has even finished announcing the pick before ours. Who needs to use our allotted time to see if another team is interested in trading up.

GMScud 03-06-2010 12:16 AM

Re: Schefter: "There's no way" the Rams won't pick Sam Bradford at No. 1
 
[quote=JoeRedskin;670215]If Suh is there when we pick, we find someone to ransom him off too. As a player, he is a luxury at one of the few positions we are set. As trade bait, he is gold waiting to be cashed in.[/quote]

After releasing Griffin, I wouldn't really say we're "set" at DT. Montgomery and Golston aren't exactly studs by any means. If we're fully committed to a switch to a 3-4, we're going to need some flux with D-lineman. I wonder how Suh would be as a 3-4 DE? My gut is that he's best suited as a 4-3 DT.

The Goat 03-06-2010 12:17 AM

Re: Schefter: "There's no way" the Rams won't pick Sam Bradford at No. 1
 
[quote=Ruhskins;670348]I think Suh and McCoy would be good 3-4 DEs. I think we should pick up Jamal Williams for a year or two, and maybe pick up Dan Williams (329 lbs) from Tennessee or Cam Thomas (330 lbs) from UNC; they seem to have the physique to be 3-4 NTs.[/quote]

I don't know these dudes offhand but the defensive scheme change is pretty important...so ya know I guess I'll look em up :)

Pocket$ $traight 03-06-2010 12:17 AM

Re: Schefter: "There's no way" the Rams won't pick Sam Bradford at No. 1
 
[quote=Ruhskins;670348]I think Suh and McCoy would be good 3-4 DEs. I think we should pick up Jamal Williams for a year or two, and maybe pick up Dan Williams (329 lbs) from Tennessee or Cam Thomas (330 lbs) from UNC; they seem to have the physique to be 3-4 NTs.[/quote]

I think Suh would be a DE in the 3-4 as well and I like Williams too. Can we really afford to sign Williams and use a pick on a NT?

Ruhskins 03-06-2010 12:27 AM

Re: Schefter: "There's no way" the Rams won't pick Sam Bradford at No. 1
 
[quote=Pocket$ $traight;670357]I think Suh would be a DE in the 3-4 as well and I like Williams too. Can we really afford to sign Williams and use a pick on a NT?[/quote]

Well, I think Williams is in the tail end of his career, and I think BA could get a good deal done there. I think right now he's the top UFA NT available, and we need players that have 3-4 experience.

[quote=The Goat;670356]I don't know these dudes offhand but the defensive scheme change is pretty important...so ya know I guess I'll look em up :)[/quote]

I saw them during the combine on the NFLN, and the pundits were talking about these guys fitting well in the 3-4 at NT.

Pocket$ $traight 03-06-2010 12:32 AM

Re: Schefter: "There's no way" the Rams won't pick Sam Bradford at No. 1
 
[quote=Ruhskins;670360]Well, I think Williams is in the tail end of his career, and I think BA could get a good deal done there. I think right now he's the top UFA NT available, and we need players that have 3-4 experience.




I saw them during the combine on the NFLN, and the pundits were talking about these guys fitting well in the 3-4 at NT.[/quote]


If that is the case, then we should leave Williams alone, especially if we need to use a draft pick on the nose. I am hoping Monty steps up....finally.

Ruhskins 03-06-2010 12:42 AM

Re: Schefter: "There's no way" the Rams won't pick Sam Bradford at No. 1
 
[quote=Pocket$ $traight;670362]If that is the case, then we should leave Williams alone, especially if we need to use a draft pick on the nose. I am hoping Monty steps up....finally.[/quote]

Yeah but Monty has no 3-4 experience. These youngsters would learn from Williams. I'm getting more confidence in the FO to be able to make a good deal and not overpay someone like Williams.

The Goat 03-06-2010 01:00 AM

Re: Schefter: "There's no way" the Rams won't pick Sam Bradford at No. 1
 
Jeez it would be fantastic if Monty could breakout as a dominant NT, but it would be downright irresponsible for our FO to gamble on it. Monty hasn't flashed jack squat and may not have the talent to be a legit NT anyway.

CultBrennan59 03-06-2010 01:18 AM

Re: Schefter: "There's no way" the Rams won't pick Sam Bradford at No. 1
 
So what are the chances we trade jason campbell, I say this because you'd be surprised what teams are willing to give up draft pick wise to get a QB.

CultBrennan59 03-11-2010 10:36 PM

Re: Schefter: "There's no way" the Rams won't pick Sam Bradford at No. 1
 
So I was just watching Sam Bradford's Highlights and Clausen's highlights, and I got to say that all Sam throws are short passes, and mid passes, rarely to never did he go deep. Also part of the reason why he had so many yards passing is because his receivers would get twice the yards on a throw from Sam (if Sam threw the ball 7 yards the receivers would pick up 14yards for example). Clausen however, throws the ball all over the field. The farthest throw I saw him make and complete was a 55 yard ball, where as Bradfords farthest from what I saw was 40 yards. I'm sure people are saying hey throwing deep balls doesn't matter that much, but they do, especially in the NFL they sure as hell matter. Also in the NFL the corners know how to wrap up and take down receivers after the catch unlike Washington or Baylor for example from his highlight tape where Jauquin Igelisas or Ryan Broyles turns a 7 yard slant into a 65 yard TD. Clausen definitely seems like the NFL QB for sure, plus he didn't play with a good OL anyway so he's already fit for the skins. I'm very curious to see how far Sam can throw..


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