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mredskins 01-20-2016 02:49 PM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
Strengths:
Ideal build and size
Quickness to the hole
Vision
Tough, physical runner
Runs behind pads
Proper pad level
Has good straight-line speed
Can break off long runs
Shiftiness
Capable of handling a large amount of touches
Excellent hands
Phenomenal receiving ability
Willing blocker in blitz pickup; has potential to be very good
Didn't take a massive pounding in college
Hard-nosed runner between the tackles
Improved study habits as a junior
Looks durable; backup for two seasons before becoming a starter



Weaknesses:
Will need to continue to improve blitz pickup
Intelligence?

That is Trent Richardson and he turned out so awesome.

punch it in 01-20-2016 05:15 PM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
[QUOTE=mredskins;1138097]Strengths:

Ideal build and size

Quickness to the hole

Vision

Tough, physical runner

Runs behind pads

Proper pad level

Has good straight-line speed

Can break off long runs

Shiftiness

Capable of handling a large amount of touches

Excellent hands

Phenomenal receiving ability

Willing blocker in blitz pickup; has potential to be very good

Didn't take a massive pounding in college

Hard-nosed runner between the tackles

Improved study habits as a junior

Looks durable; backup for two seasons before becoming a starter







Weaknesses:

Will need to continue to improve blitz pickup

Intelligence?



That is Trent Richardson and he turned out so awesome.[/QUOTE]


In all fairness - intelligence under weaknesses should be at least a minor red flag....
Ezekiel will not be another Trent Richardson.

Irrefutable 01-20-2016 06:23 PM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
[quote=JoeRedskin;1138060]There are some good guards coming open - a lot in fact. The Ravens G who stepped in and performed admirably as LT jumps out at me. I am unconvinced that Luvaou is the answer at LG and Long may be depth but he was pushed around by D linemen a lot. As for A. Kouandjio, he may have a great attitude but he is serious project ([url=http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/10407/arie-kouandjio]Arie Kouandjio - Washington Redskins - 2016 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com[/url] : AK "is tight hipped and athletically deficient. Arie was a maddeningly inconsistent blocker on college tape, almost to the point of being undisciplined.").

The run game sucked. Even if Lauvuo is the answer (he left due to injury, run game goes south), I don't trust either Long or AK to step up. If we can get a quality guard at a good price, I wouldn't object. I can see it as not a priority but I wouldn't rule it out.

Nobody on the list other than Wisnewski stands out to me at center. To me, that's the real priority on the line. The pivot position needs to be upgraded either through free agency or the draft.[/quote]

Center Ben Jones might be a good option. Reportedly Lauvuo's recovery has been slow. He could be cut and be replaced by a FA.

SFREDSKIN 01-20-2016 07:03 PM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
[quote=Irrefutable;1138107]Center Ben Jones might be a good option. Reportedly Lauvuo's recovery has been slow. He could be cut and be replaced by a FA.[/quote]

Kouandjio wins the LG position next year.

Bangee7 01-20-2016 08:39 PM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;1138111]Kouandjio wins the LG position next year.[/quote]

I'm not so sure about that...didn't he only play 1 snap this year?

If he's the heir apparent, they couldn't find a few more snaps for him?

OmahaRedskins 01-20-2016 08:50 PM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
[quote=Bangee7;1138119]I'm not so sure about that...didn't he only play 1 snap this year?

If he's the heir apparent, they couldn't find a few more snaps for him?[/quote]

Does anybody know how Kouandjio is doing? I haven't ready any reports on him.

DYoungJelly 01-20-2016 09:01 PM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
[quote=Bangee7;1138119]I'm not so sure about that...didn't he only play 1 snap this year?

If he's the heir apparent, they couldn't find a few more snaps for him?[/quote]

It's the exception when a 4th round draft pick can contribute in game situations in his rookie year.

I don't have any numbers, but from memory, he wasn't active for a lot of games.

From the outside looking in, I don't think we can say he is or isn't going to be good. Only folks inside the organization would know how he is adapting to the pro game at this stage.

Case in point, Morgan Moses. Tom Compton played in front of him last year and this year Moses came in and played extremely well.

SFREDSKIN 01-20-2016 10:33 PM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
[quote=Bangee7;1138119]I'm not so sure about that...didn't he only play 1 snap this year?

If he's the heir apparent, they couldn't find a few more snaps for him?[/quote]

McC loves him because of his nasty style of play, I bet you he wins the job.

skinsfaninok 01-21-2016 09:22 AM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
If we let garçon go which I hope we don't but if we did, would anyone like Jermaine Kearse? Word is he won't be back in Seattle.

Schneed10 01-21-2016 09:34 AM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
Kiper gave us a good grade right after the draft, and he improved the grade after seeing our rookies play this year.

[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/23247/redskins-2015-rookie-class-receives-high-mark-from-mel-kiper]Redskins 2015 rookie class receives high mark from Mel Kiper - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN[/url]

The best part about this, is I remember McCloughan standing at the podium reviewing the draft after the 3-day event concluded. He was asked how he thought he did, and went through espousing the positive traits of each guy, then took a sip of water he cracked a half-smile and said "it's a good group, you'll see."

He knew it all along. He knew going into that draft who was good, who wasn't. And he came away with plenty of his guys.

I just love his level of mastery over the whole thing. You come away KNOWING it's a good group of players, not wondering whether everything will pan out.

30gut 01-21-2016 09:39 AM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1138142]If we let garçon go which I hope we don't but if we did, would anyone like Jermaine Kearse? Word is he won't be back in Seattle.[/quote]Depends on the money.

I don't think Garcon is anything special and he doesn't play to dollar imo.
Garcon is great after the catch, works hard/blocks...appears like a team guy, locker room guy.

But...Garcon isn't a deep threat, doesn't high point the ball well, doesn't gain great separation, doesn't easily/consistently beat press man without scheme help.

I don't think Kearse is an upgrade. Chop-chop has inconsistent hands and has some of the same issues as Garcon. But Kearse is a deep threat, can high point the ball and should cost much, much less.

skinsfaninok 01-21-2016 09:41 AM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
[QUOTE=30gut;1138146]Depends on the money.

I don't think Garcon is anything special and he doesn't play to dollar imo.
Garcon is great after the catch, works hard/blocks...appears like a team guy, locker room guy.

But...Garcon isn't a deep threat, doesn't high point the ball well, doesn't gain great separation, doesn't easily/consistently beat press man without scheme help.

I don't think Kearse is an upgrade. Chop-chop has inconsistent hands and has some of the same issues as Garcon. But Kearse is a deep threat, can high point the ball and should cost much, much less.[/QUOTE]
I like PG he's a great team guy it appears and he does do the dirty work. Kearse has some upside he played really well this yr.

punch it in 01-21-2016 09:42 AM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
Keep Garcon. Sign our own. Pay our own. Win through the draft and by keeping the team together.

KI Skins Fan 01-21-2016 10:52 AM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
I'm thinking about dumping my wife. She's a good wife but she doesn't high point the ball well anymore. I'm looking for a new wife who's about the same as my current wife but can highpoint the ball. I hope my new wife will be able to get along with the kids.

artmonkforhallofamein07 01-21-2016 11:24 AM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
I've read through a bit of this thread.

Needs on offense:

C

WR

TE

RB

I dont look at LG as a need. If you remember early in the year in the two games vs the Rams and Dolphins. We had Lauvo as our LG. He was really showing well this season before he was injured. With all the guys we lost he was one of the biggest. It did allow for Long to get acclimated to laying but Shaun was looking to really have a great year next to Trent. I want to see him back in the mix and with Lebrius and Long now both having a season of work there I see them as a great 1-2 G/C backuo combo.

C is a must though. Both Kory and Josh arent terrible but should not be used as the main starter.

WR- Very interested to see what we do with Garcon and Jackson to see how big the immediate need is. If we can keep both with a restructure or extension then great. I would like to keep both. So drafting a big #1 that can be developed is a good idea.

TE- again here we should be getting reinforcements from IR but we still need a guy here

RB- Jones and Thompson will be back. Young should be back. I would like to see Thomas (brought back) and a young guy brought back in.

other than those areas we are good on offense.

DEFENSE

DL-

LB-

CB-

S-


All are needs on defense.


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