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punch it in 07-05-2020 11:21 AM

Re: Skins getting heat again over name issue
 
[QUOTE=mooby;1253840]Yeah, the NFL also strikes me as a league short on cash. Some say the XFL was doing even better than the NFL was.[/QUOTE]



LOL. Those are the same people that say their dogs are the ones who told them to kill those people.

MTK 07-05-2020 11:30 AM

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1253848]Do they have enough cash to be sidelined for multiple seasons while the virus calms down? Nobody has that kind of cash and you know it.[/quote]

NFL shut down for multiple seasons? This is so detached from reality I don’t know where to even begin.

SolidSnake84 07-05-2020 11:54 AM

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[quote=MTK;1253868]NFL shut down for multiple seasons? This is so detached from reality I don’t know where to even begin.[/quote]

My guess is two seasons at the most. This year is lost because of the COVID getting out of control, and next year will be lost as the country continues to recover socially and economically, but there is still very high daily case numbers because the vaccine needs time to reach as many people as possible.

So i think it is two seasons without football, but no more than that.

MTK 07-05-2020 12:04 PM

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It’s simple economics, there’s too much TV money on the table to fold up shop. The NFL will press forward.

Chico23231 07-05-2020 12:17 PM

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I wonder if this will evolve into the intellectual dishonest discussion now if you wear redskins items...or say redskins then you are a racist? I gotta feeling it will

Then I’ll ask fans if you pull that garbage bullshit, how in the fuck were u ever a fan of the redskins in the first place?

SolidSnake84 07-05-2020 12:20 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1253873]I wonder if this will evolve into the intellectual dishonest discussion now if you wear redskins items...or say redskins then you are a racist? I gotta feeling it will

Then I’ll ask fans if you pull that garbage bullshit, how in the fuck were u ever a fan of the redskins in the first place?[/quote]

Also a very good point. Our own fanbase will criticize each other for being racist for supporting the team that we all used to love and support.

I have a camouflage redskins hat that i have worn for years, now i am legit afraid of wearing it. Same thing with all of my T-Shirts, jerseys, etc..

MTK 07-05-2020 12:29 PM

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I’ve never once had someone in public criticize me for wearing Redskins gear. Outside of the hardcore football fan world nobody gives a shit.

Meks 07-05-2020 12:37 PM

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It's all.lame and stupid as fuck. Sick of it,go find the next big thing and leave us alone you communists.

Chico23231 07-05-2020 12:55 PM

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[quote=MTK;1253880]I’ve never once had someone in public criticize me for wearing Redskins gear. Outside of the hardcore football fan world nobody gives a shit.[/quote]

Lol...things change buddy. And when they come for you...say ole Chico called it!

I can see Florio now writing his bullshit headlines “white supremacist in racist attire still attending Washington Warriors games” or “should Warrior ban racist attire at their games?”


People can’t see this, seriously?

skinsfan69 07-05-2020 01:04 PM

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Florio and Peter King are not even worth my time.

Warthog 07-05-2020 01:39 PM

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I’m really surprised that ppl are saying the NFL is “just about done”. Ready to go out of business. Seriously??

1. MLB lost a season and it’s still here. Baseball is boring as shitte and people still go to games or watch it in tv.

2. All the NFL teams are owned by BILLIONAIRES. They can lose a few bucks because the COVID 19 Pandemic has cut the preseason by 2 games.

3. Lets just take one of the worst owners in the NFL. Our own Dan Snyder. He bought the team for $800 mill and the team is now worth over $3 bill. That’s after 20 years of pure mediocrity and piss poor football- most of it caused by Snyder himself. Our 20 year history under Snyder has seen our team go from a SB contender to 28th in the NFL (underneath us - Browns and Bengals). Our stadium is horrible and run down. All the food and beverages at FEDEX are way overpriced and service is really bad. There are as many fans from TGE OTHER TEAM - as from actual Redskins fans.

I personally think that the team is going to FINALLY turn it around. But the teams value has increased even with all of Snyder’s gross buffoonery. WHY? Because the NFL is the most popular sport in this country. Games are on 4-5 days a week. Teams play in England and people THERE go to see the games. The NFL has games on ENGLISH TV (admittedly at 1:00 or 2:00 am). This is a country where the people understand and like cricket [emoji967].

The reason the NFL makes so much money is TELEVISION. That is why even a numbnut like Snyder has seen his team increase in value. Because the NFL is a huge cash cow. The SB sells a 30 second spot of advertising for over a million$$. Hell, the NFL even makes money on the COMBINE and the DRAFT. Over 25 years ago ppl didn’t even know what the Combine was! The NFL has ppl watching the draft - with most of the players that are drafted are out of the NFL five years later.

The Redskins will NOT lose fans because the name or uniform changes. The fan base will INCREASE. Why? It will show that even a bad owner like Snyder can change. After 20 years he finally gave control to the HC, without a GM like Cerrato or Allen to secretly do his bidding. Rivera said yesterday that he wanted to change the team’s name. He’s been talking it over with Snyder for the last couple weeks. Rivera wants the team name to HONOR THE MILITARY. What’s wrong with that? Snyder wants to honor the Native Americans. What’s wrong with that?

Changing the name gets money flowing to the team so they can pay BIG BUCKS to the coaches, GM, scouts, executives, etc who wouldn’t come work for this crappy team otherwise. That is until this team starts to win.

Changing the name gets the team back to DC, with a new, modern Stadium. Maybe it gets the team a new practice facility.

Change just for changes sake is bad. But it’s time for this team to change for the better. Picking a new name that honors the military is a great idea. That new name may get the military servicemen and women and veterans who are a big part of the DC population to come for OUR team, not the opponent. Picking a name that honors a tribe or the Native Americans is going to show Snyder can change and improve as an owner.

Changing the name gets ppl excited about this team again. New name, new HC, new GM (hopefully), new DC, new OC, Chase Young! This team will turn around. In 5-7 years we may have a new stadium (if Snyder abandons the FEDEX contract early - not likely but here’s hoping).

The old name is going. I hope that Snyder gets the new name right. But he’s got Rivera and probably Alex Smith to help him improve.

Oh yeah, and the NFL will be around long after we are gone. Lol.


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JackLord 07-05-2020 01:58 PM

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Suffice it to say, I think the name change controversy is one that has been manufactured and amplified by small, but voraciously vocal group. But where we are is where we are.

Still, this notion that changing it will Give Danny a new lease and the team will flourish is wishful thinking exemplified. Danny's ownership would the same if he owned the Giants, Saints, or any other franchise.

The problem has not been the name or the crappy stadium. It's been Snyder's much documented impatience, arrogance, and micro-managing. Changing the label and moving it to a new environment is not going to change that.

I am encouraged by Ron Rivera and hints that Snyder has changed. But we have seen that before. It is tempting to think that this might be time to cease being a fan of Washington. And perhaps the NFL.

MTK 07-05-2020 02:10 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1253883]Lol...things change buddy. And when they come for you...say ole Chico called it!

I can see Florio now writing his bullshit headlines “white supremacist in racist attire still attending Washington Warriors games” or “should Warrior ban racist attire at their games?”


People can’t see this, seriously?[/quote]

No I don’t see that happening. I know conservatives love to come up with these ridiculous slippery slope arguments like gay marriage will lead to people marrying animals, but I think once the name changes it’s mission accomplished.

Giantone 07-05-2020 02:12 PM

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I've said this before, No I don't think the name is Offensive but in today's Political climate it's a hot topic . I personally would like to see Dan Stand by his word and not change it but as far as money goes he could make some big money on the sales of a new logo and moniker plus it would open up the chance that all Redskin fans have wanted and that is to build a New stadium on the RFK site and bring the team back to DC. So I think it will happen and I will take a guess that it will be the [B]"Red Tales or the Senators"[/B] .IMO.

Giantone 07-05-2020 02:15 PM

Re: Skins getting heat again over name issue
 
[quote=Chico23231;1253883]Lol...things change buddy. And when they come for you...say ole Chico called it!

I can see Florio now writing his bullshit headlines “white supremacist in racist attire still attending Washington Warriors games” or “should Warrior ban racist attire at their games?”


People can’t see this, seriously?[/quote]

LOL,"chico called it"..............., if chico said the sun was up I would have to look out the window to double check!


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