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[quote=Shadowbyte;798934]I stand corrected. Kerrigans overall Combine numbers are superior to Jordans. So he's a better athlete on paper.[/quote]

I'm glad to see you've come out of your skirt about the draft negative nancy ;)

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[quote=Lotus;798953]Not really good ones.[/quote]

A guy like Justin Bannan can be put on the D-line for cheap. If we had picked Jordan, we probably would have told him to fatten up and become a space eater. I don't think that a space eater is worth burning a 1st rounder on.

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I like Stanzi, but not sure he is really NFL caliber to be honest. Kid was gutsy at Iowa, but he wilted under pressure from the better Ds. If the kid from Nevada was picked well before him, scouts know something.

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[quote=Mattyk;798957]Per SS some names to keep an eye out for tomorrow: Greg Jones, Greg McElroy, Damien Berry[/quote]

Greg Jones would be a good value...solid player

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[quote=Mattyk;798957]Per SS some names to keep an eye out for tomorrow: Greg Jones, Greg McElroy, Damien Berry[/quote]

If they're looking at Jones I'd imagine that they'd take him in the fourth. McElroy can be had in the 5th or 6th and Berry can be had in the 7th.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;798956]I think if we're going offensive lineman tomorrow I would hope to see Zach Hurd on their radar.

[url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1277475]Zach Hurd, Connecticut, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com[/url]

Positives: [B]Has good athleticism and quick feet for his size[/B]. Uses his bulk and strength to create lanes as a run blocker. Gets under the pads of defenders and drives them out of the play. Sustains his blocks once he gets leverage on the defender.[B] Kicks out and seal the edge and gets out to pull despite his hulking frame[/B]. Engulfs undersized linebackers. Has a strong upper body and uses his arms to sustain blocks in pass protection. Has good balance and recovers well when getting knocked backwards.[B] Shows the ability to cut block[/B]. Knocks players to the ground when coming with a full head of steam.[B] Has a quick first step off the snap[/B]. Explodes off the line and keeps his pad level low. Prevents quick penetration on running plays.[B] Gets to the second level quickly[/B]. Works his way outside and squares up nicely on outside linebackers and cornerbacks.

Negatives: Lacks football instincts, often hitting the wrong target or seeming unsure whom to block. Looks uncomfortable as a pass blocker and tries to attack defenders with his body instead of keeping his balance and engaging them. Tends to catch the defender in pass protection instead of making the first contact. Doesn't keep his legs running when engaged. Fails to stay square at times and can be shed by defenders. Tends to lead with his shoulder rather than engage linemen with his hands. Gets lazy at times and prefers not to block downfield if the play isn't directly in his area. Doesn't take great angles and can fail to keep the defender in front of him.[/quote]

Let Oakland take him. Seems to not be the brightest bulb in the house.

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By the way if you can get Kendall Hunter (RB Ok State) tommorrow then thats a HUGE steal.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;798960]A guy like Justin Bannan can be put on the D-line for cheap. If we had picked Jordan, we probably would have told him to fatten up and become a space eater. I don't think that a space eater is worth burning a 1st rounder on.[/quote]

Justin Bannan would not provide the pass rush abilities that Jordan would. Average 3-4 ends eat space; good ones make plays, too.

Look at the Jets, Steelers, and Ravens: they often spend first round picks on guys you pejoratively termed "space eaters."

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[quote=Dirtbag59;798965]By the way if you can get Kendall Hunter (RB Ok State) tommorrow then thats a HUGE steal.[/quote]

this.

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Guys did Moffitt from Wisconsin get picked up at all?

Seattle got him at #75. I knew it. That guy was a total beast.

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Shows a bit of everything. From beautiful rushes and ability to take on tackles, but also him missing on some clear running lanes.

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Jenkins doesn't have to be a beast or have sacks -- if he is a durable NT who can play even half the snaps, take some double teams and just eats up space, it'll mean less people for Rak and now Kerrigan to fight on the way to the QB

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[url=http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=2527]Marcus Cannon Scouting Report - 2011 NFL Draft Prospect[/url]

Seems like this guy would be a steal -- someone posted this a little earlier and seems like a great pickup in the 4th or 5th

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Loving this FO's draft so far....the adults are in charge.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;798970]Guys did Moffitt from Wisconsin get picked up at all?[/quote]

[url=http://blog.seattlepi.com/football/2011/04/29/nfl-draft-seahawks-select-wisconsin-guard-john-moffitt-at-no-75/]NFL draft: Seahawks select Wisconsin guard John Moffitt at No. 75 | Seattle Seahawks & NFL News - seattlepi.com[/url]

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[quote=GusFrerotte;798970]Guys did Moffitt from Wisconsin get picked up at all?[/quote]

Dude I asked earlier who was the Moffitt fan. Why didn't you come forward?

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[quote=drew54;798975][URL="http://blog.seattlepi.com/football/2011/04/29/nfl-draft-seahawks-select-wisconsin-guard-john-moffitt-at-no-75/"]NFL draft: Seahawks select Wisconsin guard John Moffitt at No. 75 | Seattle Seahawks & NFL News - seattlepi.com[/URL][/quote]


I missed the pick. Damn shame. I would have loved some Big Ten hogs up front on offense. 2012 will have plenty more though!!!!!!!!

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;798897]This guy could be our Wes Welker, maybe in the 5th round.

[URL="http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=2832"]Jeff Maehl Scouting Report - 2011 NFL Draft Prospect[/URL][/quote]

Yes, agreed. Would love to add Jeff Maehl as well. Our WR corps would have a lot of quickness, and we definitely need to get younger there.

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[quote=theJBexperience;798978]Yes, agreed. Would love to add Jeff Maehl as well. Our WR corps would have a lot of quickness, and we definitely need to get younger there.[/quote]

Guys guys. Lets not go all Vinny here. Hankerson was a hell of a steal. Lets not push it.

ILB, RB, OG, and maybe QB are the positions we should be looking at tomorrow.

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[url=http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events/article-1/Redskins-Catch-Hankerson-In-Third-Round/8a162999-a722-424e-939b-b9c6ca82fb9c]Redskins Catch Hankerson In Third Round[/url]

[QUOTE]The team had planned to draft him at No. 53 and No. 62 in the second round, but they opted to trade down both times and acquire more mid-round picks instead.

He was still on the draft board when the Redskins finally selected at No. 79 overall.[/QUOTE]

BOOYAH!

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[quote=rbanerjee23;798973][url=http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=2527]Marcus Cannon Scouting Report - 2011 NFL Draft Prospect[/url]

Seems like this guy would be a steal -- someone posted this a little earlier and seems like a great pickup in the 4th or 5th[/quote]

So would him: [url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2011/players/80361.html]Jacquizz Rodgers - 2011 Draft Tracker - SI.com[/url]

and him: [url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2011/players/70277.html]Jeff Maehl - 2011 Draft Tracker - SI.com[/url] my poor man's Wes Welker

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Great job tonight. Jenkins seems solid, didn't expect that pick.

Known for a few weeks now we liked Hankerson, that we could add him and multiple picks is great

We can use our 5ths to try to move up

QB is not a priority tomorrow

was shadowbyte sniffing glue during tonights thread?

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So we have 9 or 10 [icks tommorrow?

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I'm sure Cannon's cancer is scaring some teams off

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[quote=Lotus;798967]Justin Bannan would not provide the pass rush abilities that Jordan would. Average 3-4 ends eat space; good ones make plays, too.

Look at the Jets, Steelers, and Ravens: they often spend first round picks on guys you pejoratively termed "space eaters."[/quote]

Wrong, bud. I said spend 1st round picks on 3-4 DEs. Please provide the 1st round 3-4 DEs(not NTs) they have that such beastly pass rushers.

Pitt rarely spend 1st round picks on 3-4 DEs. Hood was the only DE picked by Pitt recently. Hampton is a NT, not a DE. Hood also was the very last pick in the first round.

Same with the Jets. Gholston was initially picked to be an OLB, but he failed at that, so they tried him at DE. Ellis is the only 1st round DE they picked that didn't fail out of the NFL. There are two other guys who flamed out.

Same with Baltimore. In fact, Ngata is the ONLY DL in their ENTIRE HISTORY that they took in the first round.

So, where are these 3-4 DEs being snatched out of the first round again???????????

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I like adding these guys just based on the fact that we have not been able to add a ton of players with a decent draft positions in years. The way they have moved back in the second was incredible. Top notch work, we can really build some depth with all the picks tom and at the very least we should get maybe 4 or 5 guys that can make the team.

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Draft this man. You want smart, versatile, experienced, and high character guys? This man is a future starter.
[url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1273201]Clint Boling, Georgia, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com[/url]

Positives: Football smart, durable and very experienced against top competition. Quick feet and can get to the second level and hit a moving target. Technique and hand placement are good. Hands have some power. Can trap, pull and seal effectively. Decent drive blocker. Light on his feet and extends his arms well in pass protection. Excellent Intangibles.

Negatives: Not a great athlete. Marginal knee bend and plays high. Waist bends. May not be athletic enough for the NFL tackle position, and may not play with the knee bend and low center of gravity needed to succeed inside. Can be bull rushed. Struggled against elite competition, including Nick Fairley of Auburn.

--Brad Noel

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[quote=SmootSmack;798984]was shadowbyte sniffing glue during tonights thread?[/quote]

I think he was having some Vinny flashbacks. It's hard to get used to having more draft picks at the end of the night than when you started.

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Homer McFanboy
@HomerMcFanboy Homer McFanboy
#Redskins are clearly making up for lost time with all these draft day trades.

Dude must read Warpath.


[quote=NC_Skins;798610]They are making up for all the years we pissed away draft picks. God bless you Bruce and SHanny.[/quote]

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[quote=SmootSmack;798986]I'm sure Cannon's cancer is scaring some teams off[/quote]

Hmm... didn't know about that, hope he gets better

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[quote=rbanerjee23;798994]Hmm... didn't know about that, hope he gets better[/quote]

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2011/news/story?id=6432659]Sources: TCU draft NFL prospect Marcus Cannon has cancer - ESPN[/url]

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So now weve Got ourselves a real nose tackle. I'm sorry but after today I can't stop thinking about how sick our front 7 would be if offensive lines had to account for orakpo, Kerrigan,..... And haynesworth (playing defensive end).

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Don't like the Jenkins pick when Paea was still there. Hankerson is a great value pick at # 79.

Here's some targets for tomorrow:

Lawrence Guy, DT (3-4 DE), Az. St.
Christian Ballard, DT (3-4 DE), Iowa
Clint Bolling, G, Georgia
Andrew Jackson, G, Fresno St. (6th or 7th rd)
Richard Sherman, CB, Stanford (6th or 7th)
Jordan Todman, RB, Conn
Chris Hairston, RT, Clemson
Colin McCarthy, ILB, Miami

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[QUOTE=Slingin Sammy 33;799001]Don't like the Jenkins pick when Paea was still there. Hankerson is a great value pick at # 79./QUOTE]

Agreed. We could have had 2 really high motor guys in Kerrigan and Paea along with Orakpo. Jenkins looks soft (fat and out shape) he better get to the gym and lift hard.

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3 Picks - 3 Starters. Cant wait for tomorrow.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;799001]Don't like the Jenkins pick when Paea was still there. Hankerson is a great value pick at # 79.

Here's some targets for tomorrow:

Lawrence Guy, DT (3-4 DE), Az. St.
Christian Ballard, DT (3-4 DE), Iowa
Clint Bolling, G, Georgia
Andrew Jackson, G, Fresno St. (6th or 7th rd)
Richard Sherman, CB, Stanford (6th or 7th)
Jordan Todman, RB, Conn
Chris Hairston, RT, Clemson
Colin McCarthy, ILB, Miami[/quote]

Have you seen Paea play lol? He's terrible.

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[quote=IrMitchell;799004]Have you seen Paea play lol? He's terrible.[/quote]

Oh really? How many Pac-10 games a year do you watch? The man is a beast, he plays like an angry samoan.

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[quote=IrMitchell;799004]Have you seen Paea play lol? He's terrible.[/quote]

No but I've seen him bench press and he could raise a lot of money for us in the teams lift-a-thon :silly:

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So does anyone know if our NT was Jenkins or if he's our 3-4 DE?

SS, who are some of our targets tomorrow and who were some guys today we wanted but just missed?