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SkinzWin 07-21-2011 07:56 PM

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 
Let's play a game Dirt. How many times can DirtBag sell plug himself on the warpath in an hour? Go...

SkinzWin 07-21-2011 07:59 PM

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 
P.S. - I watched the video, Beck made some good throws but overall wasn't that good IMO. Not good.

Dirtbag59 07-21-2011 08:39 PM

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 
[quote=SkinzWin;811908]Let's play a game Dirt. How many times can DirtBag sell plug himself on the warpath in an hour? Go...[/quote]

You're just jealous because now I'm a published editor. It's official. I'm now a better person then all of you.

SmootSmack 07-21-2011 08:48 PM

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 
[quote=Dirtbag59;811922]You're just jealous because now I'm a published editor. It's official. I'm now a better person then all of you.[/quote]

You're so good, the rules of homophones don't apply to you

53Fan 07-21-2011 08:52 PM

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 
I feel a sense of enlightenment just from reading your posts Dirt.

tryfuhl 07-21-2011 10:25 PM

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 
[quote=musicmaster45;811907]i Could see Terrance Austin making the team because Beck seems to throw to him in the pre season games a lot.[/quote]

that stuff is all design see how he targets austin a number of times in a row and then hodge several times after that... I know that I'm no talent evaluator but I did not like what I saw there at all

calia 07-22-2011 04:02 PM

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 
[quote=tryfuhl;811949]that stuff is all design see how he targets austin a number of times in a row and then hodge several times after that... I know that I'm no talent evaluator but I did not like what I saw there at all[/quote]

Nor did I -- he has a fair bit of zip on the ball, but the accuracy wasn't great, especially on the shorter and the longer throws (anything in the 8-15 yard range looked pretty good). I hope that he's improved a lot in the year since that game.

TheSmurfs22 07-22-2011 04:20 PM

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 
This may be a qb by committee this year. Honestly I am expecting this to be a pretty ugly year for the Skins. I hope I am wrong, but I am not expecting too much. I think the teams that have been consistent the last 3-5 years are the ones who will do the best especially after a lockout.

SkinzWin 07-22-2011 07:59 PM

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;811925]You're so good, the rules of homophones don't apply to you[/quote]

LOL. Beat me to it. Rule #137 of the published editor's rule book (abridged). "All published editors of online resources, including but not limited to, You Tube, Twitter, Facebook, FaceboxSquared, Twittube and the like, are hereby bequeathed and henceforth granted permission to abstain from the use of homophones, if so desired." You are so hott right now Dirt. OMG.

30gut 07-22-2011 08:15 PM

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 
[quote=Dirtbag59;811922]You're just jealous because now I'm a published editor. It's official. I'm now a better person then all of you.[/quote]If you want to impress me post a cut-up of the throws that show Beck's ball speed/velocity. ;)

[SIZE="1"].....please, seriously[/SIZE]

Dirtbag59 07-22-2011 08:24 PM

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 
WHO CAN MAKE A VIDEO?!?!?!? I CAN! WHO CAN MAKE A VIDEO?!?! I CAN

Get your popcorn ready!

QUOTE ME JEFF/Donovan/Tony/Ryan/Carson I'M OPEN! I'M ALWAYS OPEN!

Next question.

[quote=30gut;812088]If you want to impress me post a cut-up of the throws that show Beck's ball speed/velocity. ;)

[SIZE="1"].....please, seriously[/SIZE][/quote]

I love the fans.

30gut 07-22-2011 08:27 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag59;812090]QUOTE ME JEFF/Donovan/Tony/Ryan/Carson I'M OPEN! I'M ALWAYS OPEN![/quote]I don't get it but for some reason its still funny, reminds me of something my buddy yelled while getting tossed out of club in Buckhead.

SmootSmack 07-22-2011 08:31 PM

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[quote=30gut;812091]I don't get it but for some reason its still funny, reminds me of something my buddy yelled while getting tossed out of club in Buckhead.[/quote]

Did you then say "That's my buddy *sniff, sniff* that's my buddy"

30gut 07-22-2011 08:36 PM

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;812093]Did you then say "That's my buddy *sniff, sniff* that's my buddy"[/quote]

I yelled R O C H A! from across the club in a Brando like wail.

SmootSmack 07-24-2011 12:13 PM

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 
[url=http://bloggingthebeast.com/2011/07/24/john-beck-game-film-review-is-mike-shanahan-truly-serious-that-john-beck-could-be-the-redskins-2011-starting-qb/]John Beck game film review: Is Mike Shanahan truly serious that John Beck could be the Redskins’ 2011 starting QB? – Blogging the bEast[/url]

30gut 07-24-2011 01:23 PM

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;812304][url=http://bloggingthebeast.com/2011/07/24/john-beck-game-film-review-is-mike-shanahan-truly-serious-that-john-beck-could-be-the-redskins-2011-starting-qb/]John Beck game film review: Is Mike Shanahan truly serious that John Beck could be the Redskins’ 2011 starting QB? – Blogging the bEast[/url][/quote]That's the worst psuedo-game charting I've ever read.
Seriously, terrible breakdown.
A game chart is supposed to follow some structure for evaluate physical skillset and its supposed to form an obejective conclusions not: um i really didn't see anything I liked.

Matt Waldman breakdown is a bit more professional:
[url=http://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2011/07/06/emerging-nfl-talents-qb-john-beck-redskins/]Emerging NFL Talents: QB John Beck « The Rookie Scouting Portfolio[/url]

SmootSmack 07-24-2011 01:46 PM

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Well, he is an Eagles fan. That he's literate is accomplishment enough. Seriously though, didn't really read it. Next time I will before linking

53Fan 07-24-2011 01:52 PM

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;812318][B]Well, he is an Eagles fan. That he's literate is accomplishment enough[/B]. Seriously though, didn't really read it. Next time I will before linking[/quote]

:laughing2 Go Smoot!

skinsfaninok 07-24-2011 03:29 PM

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 
The closer we get the more hyped I am about Beck, also the fact that Bill Parcells drafted him really helps

tryfuhl 07-24-2011 03:42 PM

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;812332]The closer we get the more hyped I am about Beck, also the fact that Bill Parcells drafted him really helps[/quote]
And dumped him, as did ozzie newsome
/devilsadvocate

skinsfaninok 07-24-2011 03:43 PM

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 
[quote=tryfuhl;812334]And dumped him, as did ozzie newcomer
/devilsadvocate[/quote]


Well.... LOL true but still

NC_Skins 07-24-2011 04:05 PM

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;812332]The closer we get the more hyped I am about Beck, also the fact that Bill Parcells drafted him really helps[/quote]

Actually he wasn't drafted by Parcells. He was drafted in the 2007 draft, and Bill Parcells came aboard on Dec 2007. The first draft of Parcells saw Jake Long and Chad Henne drafted with their first couple of picks. It's probably the reason Beck didn't get a fair shake is because he wasn't picked by Parcell's regime.

skinsfaninok 07-24-2011 06:32 PM

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^ thanks I forgot henne was bills first QB there

Dirtbag59 07-24-2011 07:36 PM

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;812304][url=http://bloggingthebeast.com/2011/07/24/john-beck-game-film-review-is-mike-shanahan-truly-serious-that-john-beck-could-be-the-redskins-2011-starting-qb/]John Beck game film review: Is Mike Shanahan truly serious that John Beck could be the Redskins’ 2011 starting QB? – Blogging the bEast[/url][/quote]

What a stupid article. Using dated footage. My videos were wide open. Everyone boycott this blog.

SkinzWin 07-25-2011 12:43 AM

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 
Starting Quarterback: John Beck? NOPE

[url=http://www.rotoworld.com/recent/nfl/3214/kyle-orton]Recent news on Kyle Orton - Denver Broncos - Rotoworld.com[/url]

Dirtbag59 07-25-2011 01:02 AM

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 
[quote=SkinzWin;812398]Starting Quarterback: John Beck? NOPE

[url=http://www.rotoworld.com/recent/nfl/3214/kyle-orton]Recent news on Kyle Orton - Denver Broncos - Rotoworld.com[/url][/quote]

[B][SIZE="5"]LaCanfora [/SIZE][/B]was the lone holdout on a potential Orton trade the past few months, possibly hearing from Broncos sources trying to drive up the price tag. "For a long time I didn't think he'd be dealt," said LaCanfora. "But ... I hear more and more teams with an eye on him." The Cardinals, Vikings, Dolphins, and Redskins have been mentioned as the most likely dance partners.

SmootSmack 07-25-2011 05:34 AM

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 
You're probably going to hear some Carson Palmer rumors in the next few days as well. But I don't think he's coming here.

NC_Skins 07-25-2011 08:08 AM

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;812408]You're probably going to hear some Carson Palmer rumors in the next few days as well. But I don't think he's coming here.[/quote]

Dear god make it stop. I'd rather go with Rex/Beck any day of the week, than give up picks for yet another aged vet who's time has come and gone.

SkinzWin 07-25-2011 10:04 AM

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 
[quote=NC_Skins;812412]Dear god make it stop. I'd rather go with Rex/Beck any day of the week, than give up picks for yet another aged vet who's time has come and gone.[/quote]

You seriously think Orton has come and gone? He's only 28.

SmootSmack 07-25-2011 10:11 AM

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 
[quote=SkinzWin;812449]You seriously think Orton has come and gone? He's only 28.[/quote]

Pretty sure he was referring to Carson Palmer

Alvin Walton 07-25-2011 10:23 AM

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 
Possible starting QB win probability -

Grossman - a few
Beck - a few
Orton - a few
Jackson - a few
Palmer - maybe more than a few
Young - maybe more than a few

We're screwed either way until we get a hot shot first round QB.

CRedskinsRule 07-25-2011 02:37 PM

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 
I don't know how Beck will play out, but I am rooting for him. Seems like he has the drive to be the Redskins QB:

DanHellie Dan Hellie
by granthpaulsen
John Beck just tried to get into #redskins park & was turned away, for now. New security kid @ gate to beck: your name again sir?
12 minutes ago

Lockout barely over and he's knocking at the door of Redskins Park!

CRedskinsRule 07-25-2011 02:38 PM

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 
and this:
Rich_Campbell Rich Campbell
John Beck on getting back to work: "This is it. This is what I've put in all the work for. I'm excited to get going."
14 seconds ago

Gmanc711 07-25-2011 06:03 PM

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;812607]I don't know how Beck will play out, but I am rooting for him. Seems like he has the drive to be the Redskins QB:

DanHellie Dan Hellie
by granthpaulsen
John Beck just tried to get into #redskins park & was turned away, for now. New security kid @ gate to beck: your name again sir?
12 minutes ago

Lockout barely over and he's knocking at the door of Redskins Park![/quote]

Me too...its probably a long shot, but he definitely is someone Im pulling for. Would be a cool story if he turns out to be something...just heard an interview with him on 980 and he says everything right to make you believe in the guy...I hope he can put it together....

I'm also very open to trying to get kyle orton...and I don't know but I'm not totally opposed to vince young. The guy wins.

Dirtbag59 07-25-2011 06:05 PM

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[QUOTE]There was only one problem. According to Mike Jones of the Washington Post, the guard at the gate didn’t know who he was.

[B]“I’m OK with that,” Beck said. “I haven’t done anything yet.”
[/B]
It wouldn’t have mattered if Beck was a more recognizable face, however. Players aren’t allowed to report to the team facilities until Tuesday, a piece of information that left Beck, per Jones, “slightly disappointed, but not offended.”[/QUOTE]

What a great story this will be if it works. Still we've seen it coming from to far away. Aren't Cinderella stories suppose to come at you from the middle of no where? :FIREdevil

tryfuhl 07-25-2011 06:14 PM

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 
Beck on radio said Skins have told him that they are re-signing Rex and that there will be an open competition for QB, nothing that we didn't really know but the communication line is open at least

SmootSmack 07-25-2011 07:21 PM

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 
[quote=Dirtbag59;812736]What a great story this will be if it works. Still we've seen it coming from to far away. Aren't Cinderella stories suppose to come at you from the middle of no where? :FIREdevil[/quote]

I can't figure out yet if it's a great story. If he does succeed, is he the 2nd round pick who's finally getting his shot or is he the 2nd round pick who's finally taking advantage of his shot?

I guess to me it seems many see him as some late round/FA not what he really was, a fairly highly touted 2nd round pick

Dirtbag59 07-25-2011 07:23 PM

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;812756]I can't figure out yet if it's a great story. If he does succeed, is he the 2nd round pick who's finally getting his shot or is he the 2nd round pick who's finally taking advantage of his shot?

I guess to me it seems many see him as some late round/FA not what he really was, a fairly highly touted 2nd round pick[/quote]

Drew Brees was a great story in 2004 and 2005 so I imagine if Beck played well he would be held in similar esteem.

Alvin Walton 07-25-2011 07:29 PM

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 
Keep in mind that all this "Beck is the starter" hype has come about from very unnoficial channels and during a lockout. If Grossman leaves I'd still be very surprised to see Beck start.

NC_Skins 07-25-2011 07:38 PM

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 
[quote=Alvin Walton;812760]Keep in mind that all this "Beck is the starter" hype has come about from very unnoficial channels and during a lockout. If Grossman leaves I'd still be very surprised to see Beck start.[/quote]

Grossman will be signed. The real question is will Beck beat out Grossman in camp. It's either going to be one or the other. I don't see another QB coming in here without any OTAs or other prep-work and beating those two guys who've had experience under Kyle's system.


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