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[quote=Dirtbag59;819033]He's gone. My tweet officially proved it.[/quote]

He had a tweet 14 minutes ago saying he wasn't cut, which sort of makes me upset. His time will come soon enough though.

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he has said im staying he said sorry for the confusing message exact quote

My apologies Redskin Nation definitely didnt mean to throw mixed signals just frustrated about things I can't control.. Not cut lol

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[quote=Monkeydad;818533]It was more of a salary issue. He's one of the top available CBs now, but was under contract for over $6 million this year and has had some injuries. The Colts decided to go cheaper with less injury risk. They have decent CBs left with Jarraud Powers, Jacob Lacey and Justin Tryon.

I'd be willing to take the risk on him for the Skins. He'd probably play behind Wilson and could allow Barnes to be a backup FS instead of CB. If Landry can't start the season, Horton is likely next on the depth chart. OJ Atogwe could shift to SS and let Barnes play at FS...which I think would be better than a starting duo of Horton and Atogwe.[/quote]

I would be very cautious in signing a CB from a team that chose to let him go because they had Justin Tryon on the squad to replace him...

Just saying...

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[quote=mbedner3420;819034]He had a tweet 14 minutes ago saying he wasn't cut, which sort of makes me upset. His time will come soon enough though.[/quote]

@AdamSchfler
Redskins cut Robert Henson. Famous for lashing out against Redskin fans and McDonald workers alike.

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Anyone heard any word as to how the visits with Lofa and the Colts Hayden?

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;819057]Anyone heard any word as to how the visits with Lofa and the Colts Hayden?[/quote]

I think they're tomorrow. Would be cool though if someone had word on that. Like 'yeah guys I just came back from Friday and the visit went pretty well, he's officially a Redskin.'

Anyway what I want to know is, how is Phillip Buchannon suspended for four games, but Haynesworth and Harrison are still set to play on opening day?

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[quote=Dirtbag59;819059]I think they're tomorrow. Would be cool though if someone had word on that. Like 'yeah guys I just came back from Friday and the visit went pretty well, he's officially a Redskin.'

Anyway what I want to know is, how is Phillip Buchannon suspended for four games, but Haynesworth and Harrison are still set to play on opening day?[/quote]

Well we do know that both Harrison and Hayneswworth were less than "NFL model citizens" in the past six months - - - SO - - -

The only logical conclusion is that whatever they have on Buchannon has to be pretty serious and virtually airtight.

Just a guess but Harrison will not be suspended by the NFL for his remarks in the magazine article - - and - -

The Haynesworth situation could go either way

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[quote=sportscurmudgeon;819065]Well we do know that both Harrison and Hayneswworth were less than "NFL model citizens" in the past six months - - - SO - - -

The only logical conclusion is that whatever they have on Buchannon has to be pretty serious and virtually airtight.

Just a guess but Harrison will not be suspended by the NFL for his remarks in the magazine article - - and - -

The Haynesworth situation could go either way[/quote]

I agree on the Harrison situation but the Haynesworth one has to result in a suspension.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;819059]I think they're tomorrow. Would be cool though if someone had word on that. Like 'yeah guys I just came back from Friday and the visit went pretty well, he's officially a Redskin.'

Anyway what I want to know is, how is Phillip Buchannon suspended for four games, but Haynesworth and Harrison are still set to play on opening day?[/quote]

Just in case anyone else was wondering.
[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/report-tatupu-hayden-to-visit-wednesday/2011/08/02/gIQAHf15pI_blog.html]Report: Tatupu, Hayden to visit Wednesday - The Insider - The Washington Post[/url]

I would like both at the right price

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[quote=Dirtbag59;819066]I agree on the Harrison situation but the Haynesworth one has to result in a suspension.[/quote]

I don't see how it can't. He's already been suspended once for his actions, and now add all the off the field trouble. Roger will be a complete jackass if he allows fatboy to slide on his transgressions, but ding others on theirs.

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Harrison does not deserve a suspension. It is freedom of speech. Let him talk.

Haynesworth, yes I believe that he deserves just a small suspension, it would not affect the Pats at all, and I think his offenses & the amount of offenses warrants league action.

P. B. I wonder if he failed a drug test of some kind? Was this a legal issue, and if so why has it not been reported?

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[quote=sportscurmudgeon;819051]I would be very cautious in signing a CB from a team that chose to let him go because they had Justin Tryon on the squad to replace him...

Just saying...[/quote]Or of a team that released Tryon

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Tryon was young and I never understood why we let him go. He played well last year in Indy, I saw a handful of games. Justin played well, was he not one of ESPN's top five breakout players in 2010?

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;819088]Tryon was young and I never understood why we let him go. He played well last year in Indy, I saw a handful of games. Justin played well, was he not one of ESPN's top five breakout players in 2010?[/quote]

LOL no not close

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;819086]Harrison does not deserve a suspension. It is freedom of speech. Let him talk.

Haynesworth, yes I believe that he deserves just a small suspension, it would not affect the Pats at all, and I think his offenses & the amount of offenses warrants league action.

P. B. I wonder if he failed a drug test of some kind? Was this a legal issue, and if so why has it not been reported?[/quote]

As much as I hate Harrison b/c he's such a crybaby I agree that he shouldn't be suspended. I'm sure the Rooneys reprimanded him privately though.

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For sure they will handle that situation in house.

As far as my Tryon comment, I should have said preseason top 5 or 10 breakout players not an end of the season list. I would certainly not put him in that category. You also have to factor in his contract situation, and the deal they needed to get down with Peyton. This played a bigger role in his termination than his injuries.

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The last 2 sentences were pertaining to Hayden

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[quote=sportscurmudgeon;819065]Well we do know that both Harrison and Hayneswworth were less than "NFL model citizens" in the past six months - - - SO - - -

The only logical conclusion is that whatever they have on Buchannon has to be pretty serious and virtually airtight.

Just a guess but Harrison will not be suspended by the NFL for his remarks in the magazine article - - and - -

The Haynesworth situation could go either way[/quote]

Heard that no players including harrison will be suspended or reprimanded for anything they said during lockout and that any suspensions due to conduct unbecoming, criminal stuff (AH, britt, etc) cant be handed out until union is ratified aug 4th.

imagine PB is sub abuse/banned sub suspension but we will never know if it was weed (probably likely to slightly increase this season given players banking on lockout) or ped. alot of them guys smoke weed when they get the chance. lockout = chance

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dang man, alot of yall on here almost 1 am. effin football junkies!

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[quote=over the mountain;819103]dang man, alot of yall on here almost 1 am. effin football junkies![/quote]

1 am? That's nothing. I'm on this bitch at 4 am sometimes, although there's usually nobody else on at that point.

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[quote=over the mountain;819103]dang man, alot of yall on here almost 1 am. effin football junkies![/quote]

More like football crackheads. LOL.

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[quote=Ruhskins;819107]More like football crackheads. LOL.[/quote]


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Apparently Carlos Rogers is visiting the 49ers tonight and tomorrow.

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more like 10 or 11 mountain time zone

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Good article about the Redskins' youth movement...

[url=http://www.csnwashington.com/08/03/11/Redskins-trend-toward-getting-younger-co/landing_redskins_loud3r.html?blockID=545687&feedID=6458]Redskins trend toward getting younger continues[/url]

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[quote=mooby;819104]1 am? That's nothing. [B]I'm on this bitch at 4 am sometimes[/B], although there's usually nobody else on at that point.[/quote]

In the interest of full disclosure, is that not generally in the "Drunk Thread"?

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[quote=Hog1;819365]In the interest of full disclosure, is that not generally in the "Drunk Thread"?[/quote]

I should post in there more often, but surprisingly, when I'm on the 'Path and not sober I find myself in other areas. Then again that rarely happens to me nowadays. Usually when I'm on at 4 am it's because there's absolutely nothing to do, hence getting on the 'path.

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Golston stays with the Redskins...

"Chris Russell
Kedric Golston just re-signed with the #Redskins. He said #Cowboys & other teams were interested."

So one more season of people calling him "Gholston". LOL.

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[quote=Ruhskins;819359]Good article about the Redskins' youth movement...

[url=http://www.csnwashington.com/08/03/11/Redskins-trend-toward-getting-younger-co/landing_redskins_loud3r.html?blockID=545687&feedID=6458]Redskins trend toward getting younger continues[/url][/quote]

Great now wheres the article on the Eagles trend of getting older and more expensive :D

Haha, seriously though, a lot of you guys are going to have to get used to the idea that a decently healthy Eagles team is going to win no less then 12 games this year. Think about it, if the Redskins were in the Eagles position right now you guys would be talking non stop about how we were going to win the Super Bowl. And don't even begin to compare the Snyder spending sprees to what the Eagles have right now.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;819439]Great now wheres the article on the Eagles trend of getting older and more expensive :D

Haha, seriously though, a lot of you guys are going to have to get used to the idea that a decently healthy Eagles team is going to win no less then 12 games this year. Think about it, if the Redskins were in the Eagles position right now you guys would be talking non stop about how we were going to win the Super Bowl. And don't even begin to compare the Snyder spending sprees to what the Eagles have right now.[/quote]

I am trying to think what team has recently won the SB by going on a shopping spree during the offseason.

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[quote=Ruhskins;819442]I am trying to think what team has recently won the SB by going on a shopping spree during the offseason.[/quote]

Eagles got pretty close last time adding T.O, Kearse, and Trotter. As did the Pats

[quote]The offseason also brought the arrival of seven unrestricted free agents to the Patriots. On offense, the Patriots added running back Sammy Morris,[28] tight end Kyle Brady,[29] as well as wide receivers Donté Stallworth and Kelley Washington.[30] On defense, they added linebacker Pro Bowl linebacker Adalius Thomas[31] and cornerbacks Tory James[32] and Eddie Jackson.[33]


Randy Moss lined up with the offense during the first training camp practice
Free agents or potential free agents Heath Evans, Billy Yates,[34] Larry Izzo,[35] Rashad Baker, Gene Mruczkowski,[36] Junior Seau,[37] Randall Gay,[38] Troy Brown,[39] and Vinny Testaverde[40] were all re-signed. Defensive end Ty Warren also received a long-term contract extension.[41][/quote]

It's only a matter of time before a team succeeds in winning the Super Bowl with the type of offseason the Eagles are having. Sure maybe today a team has never bought a Super Bowl but as I said before the Eagles came within a field goal last time they made a major push. As long as you have a solid core and a quality coaching staff you can do the free agent frenzy thing and put yourself in position to win it all.

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A shortened offseason hurts them too. Less time to develop chemistry.

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[quote=Mattyk;819470]A shortened offseason hurts them too. Less time to develop chemistry.[/quote]

True. However I still don't see them loosing less then 4 games. And the positions they're adding players to have assignments that can be learned quicker, or at least simplified enough to rely solely on talent. The real kicker will be is if they can get the more complicated concepts down by the end of the season in time for the playoffs.

However lets look at the changes.

O-Line - Watkins and Harris. Harris might have a bit of a learning curve however I think camp should give him enough time to learn the basics. Watkins has been learning the playbook since April.

RB - Ronnie Brown is a backup running back playing the easiest position to learn in football besides Kicker.

QB - Vince Young, all they can hope for is any use for him will come no earlier then midseason.

DL - Cullen Jenkins - Pretty sure Cullen can learn the defense before the season starts. I don't expect Jason Babin to get 12.5 sacks again but he should be fine until Brandon Grahm is healthy again.

CB - Nnadmi and Cro - Don't know about Cro but Nnadmi is talented enough where you can just throw him out there and say play man. Cro at this point is a nickle corner.

I don't see anywhere except maybe Corner and backup QB as to much of a concern. And both of those concerns will likely be gone by the end of the year.

I think everyone should start getting use to the fact that the Eagles are going to be very good this year save major injuries at key positions.

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I say they'll top out at 11-5 if they're lucky.

I can't believe people are buying their hype. They still have holes and adding big names doesn't translate to instant success the way it does in other sports.

I still think the Packers are the more complete team.

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[quote=Mattyk;819478]I say they'll top out at 11-5 if they're lucky.

I can't believe people are buying their hype. They still have holes and adding big names doesn't translate to instant success the way it does in other sports.

[B]I still think the Packers are the more complete team.[/B][/quote]

Funny, I'm still trying to figure out how the Packers won the freaking Super Bowl, outside of the obvious answer of having a franchise QB. Still I made this mistake with the Eagles back in 04. I kept on talking about how they were overrated and they wouldn't even make the Super Bowl, and the T.O experiment was going to fail. I don't plan on making that same mistake again.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;819443]Eagles got pretty close last time adding T.O, Kearse, and Trotter. As did the Pats



It's only a matter of time before a team succeeds in winning the Super Bowl with the type of offseason the Eagles are having. Sure maybe today a team has never bought a Super Bowl but as I said before the Eagles came within a field goal last time they made a major push. [B]As long as you have a solid core and a quality coaching staff[/B] you can do the free agent frenzy thing and put yourself in position to win it all.[/quote]

I honestly think those are the changes we are striding for right now. In 2- 5 years hopefull Danny will be able to use his money to actually achieve something and give us the best oppertunity to win.

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I do think the eagles are going to need jermy macklin to be the hands down faviorts to win it all. But at this point they look almost as good as you can on paper

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[quote=Mattyk;819478]I say they'll top out at 11-5 if they're lucky.

I can't believe people are buying their hype. They still have holes and adding big names doesn't translate to instant success the way it does in other sports.

I still think the Packers are the more complete team.[/quote]Packers. Saints. Giants. The class of the NFC this year.

The Eagles have moved themselves into the discussion with a strong free agency period. And, like the Saints, they should be at this level for two or three years. So they very easily could win the SB with this core. Maybe not this year, but they'll be in it for awhile.

But yeah, a one win increase over last year is probably a ceiling for that team. And that's only obtainable because the NFC West is on the schedule. I see this team doing worse than 4-2 in the division this year.

9-7 would be somewhere around my expectation level for them. But they will make the playoffs this year.