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53Fan 08-25-2011 11:37 PM

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[quote=Gmanc711;827558]In all seriousness, my only concern right now is Jenkins. I hope the sprained knee prognosis is correct and its not something more serious.[/quote]

Same here. I think our starters did very well against the Ravens starters. HTTR!!!

rbanerjee23 08-25-2011 11:37 PM

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Alls I'm going to say is ... it's the preseason. That being said, this had the feel of a real game. WTF is up with the QBs making it so difficult to make a call. Both were pretty good tonight, Hightower was a beast as per usual. Hopefully Jenkins isn't banged up too bad.

skinsnut 08-25-2011 11:38 PM

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[quote=DynamiteRave;827562]Learning to what? Block? If you haven't learned that after 7 years, it might be time to reconsider your football career.[/quote]

Scheme, he's only been with the team...what ...2 weeks?

KI Skins Fan 08-25-2011 11:39 PM

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[quote=DynamiteRave;827562]Learning to what? Block? If you haven't learned that after 7 years, it might be time to reconsider your football career.[/quote]

Good point. He sucks. Where did you say that dronk thread ids, again? I think I'm about ready to migrate over there now.

DynamiteRave 08-25-2011 11:40 PM

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[quote=skinsnut;827567]Scheme, he's only been with the team...what ...2 weeks?[/quote]

I'm probably wrong because admittedly I dunno a thing about playbooks, but I would think blocking schemes aren't as hard to learn as it is QB reads and hot routes and WR routes and what not. I would think blocking stays pretty consistent from playbook to playbook. Outside of shifts, audibles and what not.

MTK 08-25-2011 11:42 PM

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[quote=DynamiteRave;827570]I'm probably wrong because admittedly I dunno a thing about playbooks, but I would think blocking schemes aren't as hard to learn as it is QB reads and hot routes and WR routes and what not. I would think blocking stays pretty consistent from playbook to playbook. Outside of shifts, audibles and what not.[/quote]

Well, it took our OL a full year to really come together. The zone blocking scheme takes a lot of continuity and timing.

FRPLG 08-25-2011 11:43 PM

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Congrats Balt...bunch of idiots dancing like they won the eff'n SB. Memo: our ones beat your ones.

On a more pragmatic note: Decent game for us. Certainly again we had some issues but we definitely compete and don't get out classed. Gotta fix the penalties. They killed us more than a few times. But against a serious D we looked better than average and our D looked damn good. The points they gave up came on drives where a 3rd down penalty prolonged the drive. I was encouraged overall. To me at least our imminent 2-14 season looks less and less likely.

SFREDSKIN 08-25-2011 11:43 PM

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Where are all the Gano haters? The guy has been as solid as a rock and it would have been stupid to cut him. Austin is solid, got keep him, Paul, Hankerson, Banks and go with 2 QB's to keep the extra WR. I would say thank you and goodbye to Stalworth, Sellers and Kelly.

Ruhskins 08-25-2011 11:45 PM

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Comcast is saying a sprain for Jenkins, but the rumors on Twitter are that he's out for the year. I would hate for that to happen and I hope those are just rumors.

FRPLG 08-25-2011 11:45 PM

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[quote=DynamiteRave;827570]I'm probably wrong because admittedly I dunno a thing about playbooks, but I would think blocking schemes aren't as hard to learn as it is QB reads and hot routes and WR routes and what not. I would think blocking stays pretty consistent from playbook to playbook. Outside of shifts, audibles and what not.[/quote]

The zone scheme isn't hard to "learn" it is hard to perfect as a unit because it is a moving machine with multiple moving parts that have to synchronize their efforts. You have to have players with the proper skill set and some time together to develop the ubiquitous "chemistry".

DynamiteRave 08-25-2011 11:46 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;827575]Where are all the Gano haters? The guy has been as solid as a rock and it would have been stupid to cut him. Austin is solid, got keep him, Paul, Hankerson, Banks and go with 2 QB's to keep the extra WR. I would say thank you and goodbye to Stalworth, Sellers and Kelly.[/quote]

He's definitely made a strength and accuracy improvement since last season. Knowing I probably capped on him last season, I'll eat some crow.

MTK 08-25-2011 11:46 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;827576]Comcast is saying a sprain for Jenkins, but the rumors on Twitter are that he's out for the year. I would hate for that to happen and I hope those are just rumors.[/quote]

Who are the rumors coming from? Reliable sources or Joe Schmo Fan?

DynamiteRave 08-25-2011 11:47 PM

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[quote=FRPLG;827577]The zone scheme isn't hard to "learn" it is hard to perfect as a unit because it is a moving machine with multiple moving parts that have to synchronize their efforts. You have to have players with the proper skill set and some time together to develop the ubiquitous "chemistry".[/quote]

So basically you're a centipede. If you have a bum "leg" then the entire bug just kinda falls over.

Ruhskins 08-25-2011 11:49 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;827581]Who are the rumors coming from? Reliable sources or Joe Schmo Fan?[/quote]

HogsHeaven...so I dunno. I dunno if they are reliable but l thing everyone should wait for a reliable source though. Still, a scary rumor.

REDSKINZ-RIDEORDIE 08-25-2011 11:51 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;827576]

.....but the rumors on Twitter are that he's out for the year. [/quote]


Just threw up in my mouth......

MTK 08-25-2011 11:52 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;827584]HogsHeaven...so I dunno. I dunno if they are reliable but l thing everyone should wait for a reliable source though. Still, a scary rumor.[/quote]

Yeah I see some back tracking a bit already on that rumor, I hate Twitter sometimes. Everyone wants to break news. :doh:

SFREDSKIN 08-25-2011 11:53 PM

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[url=http://twitter.com/#!/HogsHaven]Twitter[/url]

MTK 08-25-2011 11:54 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;827589][url=http://twitter.com/#!/HogsHaven]Twitter[/url][/quote]

It's getting ugly

Bucket 08-25-2011 11:54 PM

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I'm not going to take anything serious from someone who made a Chase Daniel reference.. The guy threw one lob pass to Marko mitchell for a TD and everyone thought he looked fluid?

Come on..

Ruhskins 08-25-2011 11:54 PM

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Seems that the rumor has been retracted...it was Tweeted by HogsHeaven and re-tweeted by Phillip Daniel.

Ruhskins 08-25-2011 11:56 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;827588]Yeah I see some back tracking a bit already on that rumor, I hate Twitter sometimes. Everyone wants to break news. :doh:[/quote]

For real. A knee injury for big guys is scary though. I hope he's able to recover. Although not a starter, he's good to have in the rotation and has had a spectacular camp/preseason.

JWsleep 08-25-2011 11:58 PM

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Locklear completely whiffed on that sack. Nothing to do with scheme. We still might add some vet backups on the line, IMO. Let's see who gets cut.

MTK 08-26-2011 12:00 AM

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[quote=Ruhskins;827594]Seems that the rumor has been retracted...it was Tweeted by HogsHeaven and re-tweeted by Phillip Daniel.[/quote]

Automatic unfollow for me. What a douche.

FRPLG 08-26-2011 12:01 AM

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We have a depth problem at Tackle. Locklear just isn't very good. Hasn't been good in practice either it sounds. Losing Heyer (face palm for real here) actually looks like a tough loss right now.

Ruhskins 08-26-2011 12:02 AM

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[quote=Mattyk;827600]Automatic unfollow for me. What a douche.[/quote]

He replied to HogsHeaven actually, but of course all of his followers saw that.

MTK 08-26-2011 12:03 AM

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[quote=Ruhskins;827603]He replied to HogsHeaven actually, but of course all of his followers saw that.[/quote]

I meant Hogs Haven is a douche, not PD

rbanerjee23 08-26-2011 12:03 AM

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Apparently Jenkins himself said "it shouldn't be too bad" through John Keim so pretty substantive -- mri tomorrow

JWsleep 08-26-2011 12:03 AM

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[quote=FRPLG;827602]We have a depth problem at Tackle. Locklear just isn't very good. Hasn't been good in practice either it sounds. Losing Heyer (face palm for real here) actually looks like a tough loss right now.[/quote]

I expect us to be watching the cut lists closely. Don't know if Heyer would help, but he's better than Locklear (aint saying much!).

Who else plays there? Selvish Capers? ????

skinsnut 08-26-2011 12:04 AM

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[quote=FRPLG;827602]We have a depth problem at Tackle. Locklear just isn't very good. Hasn't been good in practice either it sounds. Losing Heyer (face palm for real here) actually looks like a tough loss right now.[/quote]

Perhaps you are right in the short term...but a bad game after 2 weeks shouldn'd determine new depth value.....I'd hold onto locklear another week.

based on statistics alone...one more week would give him 50% more familiarity with the team and scheme

CultBrennan59 08-26-2011 12:05 AM

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I don't care about losing this meaningless game, but i'll be pissed if we lost our Rookie DE this year to an ACL tear.

JWsleep 08-26-2011 12:05 AM

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[quote=rbanerjee23;827605]Apparently Jenkins himself said "it shouldn't be too bad" through John Keim so pretty substantive -- mri tomorrow[/quote]

MRI will tell--nothing more to do or say tonight, I guess.

Twitter on the loose again!

Loose Twits sink ships.

SFREDSKIN 08-26-2011 12:05 AM

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[quote=JWsleep;827606]I expect us to be watching the cut lists closely. Don't know if Heyer would help, but he's better than Locklear (aint saying much!).

Who else plays there? Selvish Capers? ????[/quote]

Willie Smith, whom they like.

JWsleep 08-26-2011 12:07 AM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;827612]Willie Smith, whom they like.[/quote]

Wonder how he looked tonight? Hard to see--guess it's a decent sign when they DON'T call his name.

FRPLG 08-26-2011 12:09 AM

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[quote=JWsleep;827606]I expect us to be watching the cut lists closely. Don't know if Heyer would help, but he's better than Locklear (aint saying much!).

Who else plays there? Selvish Capers? ????[/quote]

Capers has had one of the worst camps of all players...he's a cut waiting to happen. We don't really have any actual Ts other than Locklear. Not any that should be playing in the NFL at least. A couple camp-fodder types. Locklear was the plan at backup T and he looked bad at RT tonight and isn't very good at LT to begin with.

CultBrennan59 08-26-2011 12:11 AM

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[quote=rbanerjee23;827605]Apparently Jenkins himself said "it shouldn't be too bad" through John Keim so pretty substantive -- mri tomorrow[/quote]

ACL's are a funny thing. Sometimes they hurt like no other when you tear it and then walk off the field like its not that bad. Just like Tom brady a few years ago. I think, and not to be a negative nancy, but I think Jarvis tore it. If you hear a pop and walk off on your own, after being in pain earlier, most of the time its a tear. Sucks cause I was looking forward to seeing him play a lot this year. I really hope its just a sprain!

JWsleep 08-26-2011 12:16 AM

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[quote=FRPLG;827614]Capers has had one of the worst camps of all players...he's a cut waiting to happen. We don't really have any actual Ts other than Locklear. Not any that should be playing in the NFL at least. A couple camp-fodder types. Locklear was the plan at backup T and he looked bad at RT tonight and isn't very good at LT to begin with.[/quote]

Yup. Neither looks good. Wonder if there's any vets out there facing a numbers game? Hopefully.

SirClintonPortis 08-26-2011 12:17 AM

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Josh Gorges was able to play hockey for years without an ACL at all using a brace. Obviously, football is a sport with different demands on the body than hockey, but the point is that guys with a busted ACL will not necessarily be totally in need of crutches.

FRPLG 08-26-2011 12:19 AM

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It's hard to find Ts in the NFL that have the athleticism that Shanny's super-wide zone scheme needs. Few of them get cut to boot.

mooby 08-26-2011 12:25 AM

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[quote=CultBrennan59;827609]I don't care about losing this meaningless game, but i'll be pissed if we lost our Rookie DE this year to an ACL tear.[/quote]

This. As for the game, I liked what I saw, but I can't wait until our entire secondary (Hall, Wilson, Atogwe, and Landry) are healthy so we can see them gell together. Our secondary hasn't really impressed this preseason.

SmootSmack 08-26-2011 12:28 AM

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[quote=Bucket;827593]I'm not going to take anything serious from someone who made a Chase Daniel reference.. The guy threw one lob pass to Marko mitchell for a TD and everyone thought he looked fluid?

Come on..[/quote]

I'm going to pretend I didn't see this blasphemous post


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