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Briles doesn't have a traditional playbook, but they put everything on an iPad and label and number the plays.

[URL="http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9833069/baylor-coach-art-briles-builds-offense-quarterback"]Baylor coach Art Briles builds his offense around each quarterback - ESPN[/URL]

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[quote=skinsfan69;1042032]The "sleeping in the office" is a bunch of BS. That doesn't win football games. Players making plays does.[/quote]

I think "sleeping in the office" shouldnt be discounted.
It sure bodes better than showing up, getting paid, and home on time.
The coaching position requires as much sacrifice and dedication than the players.
Heck in any successful business, upper mgt works just as hard as the working class.
Gibbs slept in his office. What do you think would happen if he gave up when sleepy or if his tummy hurt? Good teams has work ethic that trickles down.

I love hearing about guys who Arrive early and care to perfect their craft and want to win. That's why we've been upgrading and investing in team facilities.

No more mercenaries or pay check attendance collectors. Coaches an players are in need to want to lead and work hard

Hail Skinsguy

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[quote=Mattyk;1042050]Briles doesn't have a traditional playbook, but they put everything on an iPad and label and number the plays.

[URL="http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9833069/baylor-coach-art-briles-builds-offense-quarterback"]Baylor coach Art Briles builds his offense around each quarterback - ESPN[/URL][/quote]

i wouldnt mind bringing Briles in, but he cant run everything on his own. We would need a strong d cordinator, someone who can bring him along. Someone who is known and respected in the lockeroom. We are losing alot vets and leadership out of the lockeroom this year.

If we brought Briles with a weak staff, I have no doubt it would be another Spurrier epic fail.

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[quote=Green Monk Machine;1042051]I think "sleeping in the office" shouldnt be discounted.
It sure bodes better than showing up, getting paid, and home on time.
The coaching position requires as much sacrifice and dedication than the players.
Heck in any successful business, upper mgt works just as hard as the working class.
Gibbs slept in his office. What do you think would happen if he gave up when sleepy or if his tummy hurt? Good teams has work ethic that trickles down.

I love hearing about guys who Arrive early and care to perfect their craft and want to win. That's why we've been upgrading and investing in team facilities.

No more mercenaries or pay check attendance collectors. Coaches an players are in need to want to lead and work hard

Hail Skinsguy[/quote]

I'm sure Shanahan and his assistants put in a ton of hours. I highly doubt they show up at 9am and are out by 5pm. I just find that really hard to believe. They're just not getting it done on gameday. But I will not doubt their work ethic.

Ritchie Petibone, while he was DC under Gibbs never slept in his office. Yet he was one of the best at his craft. To me it's quality time working, not the amount of hours you're at the facility.

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[quote=Chico23231;1042054]i wouldnt mind bringing Briles in, but he cant run everything on his own. We would need a strong d cordinator, someone who can bring him along. Someone who is known and respected in the lockeroom. We are losing alot vets and leadership out of the lockeroom this year.

If we brought Briles with a weak staff, I have no doubt it would be another Spurrier epic fail.[/quote]

If there is any question or concern that the head coach would not be strong enough to be respected and looked upon as a disciplinarian, then this franchise doesn't need him. The coordinators can't appear to have more respect than the head coach. That's a setup for failure every time. A coach like Belichick, Gibbs, Parcells, or Schottenheimer succeeds/have succeeded because they are disciplinarians. It is clear who's in charge.

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[quote=Mattyk;1042050]Briles doesn't have a traditional playbook, but they put everything on an iPad and label and number the plays.

[URL="http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9833069/baylor-coach-art-briles-builds-offense-quarterback"]Baylor coach Art Briles builds his offense around each quarterback - ESPN[/URL][/quote]

This passage from that article is pretty much all I needed to see to cement in my mind that Briles would flop at the pro level.

[i]"We don't put too much pressure on quarterbacks to have to make reads and decipher defenses," said Kendal Briles, Baylor's passing game coordinator and wide receivers coach. "We allow them to be comfortable and know where the ball should go in coverage instead of having to read a lot of things before a play. They're not having to read a lot of things on the run."

Art Briles said the less a quarterback has to think, the faster he can play.

"I think we're a little unique in that we do that," he said. "We try to ease the load on the quarterback. I've always felt like that guy has enough stuff going on without trying to slow him down. I'd rather free him up and let him play fast. He's got a lot on him already."[/i]

This also supports what John Keim has said repeatedly, that RG3 wasn't nearly as refined of a passer than some of his peers coming out of college who were in more 'pro-style' offenses and had to read pre-snap and post-snap coverages at the college level. He's clearly smart enough to get there and with a full offseason of reps and prep I'd anticipate a nice leap next year in his passing abilities, Briles would be a detriment to his development.

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I don't want Briles I'm hoping for Shaw if we go the college route

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1042062]I don't want Briles I'm hoping for Shaw if we go the college route[/quote]

Same, but I'm not holding my breath

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[quote=skinsfan69;1042056]I'm sure Shanahan and his assistants put in a ton of hours. I highly doubt they show up at 9am and are out by 5pm. I just find that really hard to believe. They're just not getting it done on gameday. But I will not doubt their work ethic.

Ritchie Petibone, while he was DC under Gibbs never slept in his office. Yet he was one of the best at his craft. To me it's quality time working, not the amount of hours you're at the facility.[/quote]

Agreed. That's why I'm rooting for Snyder to lean house at this point. Boot Shanahans tough guy Eastwood persona along with kyle to the curb, ban Haslett and his Jane lynch looking self from the property, and have a conversation with Burns that the new staff will replace him.

What will most likely happen- Snyder will do didily-squat. Too much garunteed money is probably promised that Mikes team will get another benefit of the doubt and be allowed to stay. Long enough for Robert to get hurt, further animosity and division in the locker room, Kyle will get a job on some team that needs an OC, and we will be even deeper in the hole with our dicks in our hands looking and feeling dumb.

Leaving most of us maddened by shanahan repeatin the same failed philophies and expecting different results.

If only the redskins HQ was close enough to picket before and after work, I swear I'd be there 2-3x's a week for myself and the entire redskin nation till Snyder grew a pair.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1042065]Same, but I'm not holding my breath[/quote]

SS, what you think the chances Shanny returns next year? 50-50?

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[quote=SmootSmack;1042065]Same, but I'm not holding my breath[/quote]


Dan needs to Fire up the jet!

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[quote=Paintrain;1042061]This passage from that article is pretty much all I needed to see to cement in my mind that Briles would flop at the pro level.

[I]"We don't put too much pressure on quarterbacks to have to make reads and decipher defenses," said Kendal Briles, Baylor's passing game coordinator and wide receivers coach. "We allow them to be comfortable and know where the ball should go in coverage instead of having to read a lot of things before a play. They're not having to read a lot of things on the run."[/I]

[I]Art Briles said the less a quarterback has to think, the faster he can play.[/I]

[I]"I think we're a little unique in that we do that," he said. "We try to ease the load on the quarterback. I've always felt like that guy has enough stuff going on without trying to slow him down. I'd rather free him up and let him play fast. He's got a lot on him already."[/I]

This also supports what John Keim has said repeatedly, that RG3 wasn't nearly as refined of a passer than some of his peers coming out of college who were in more 'pro-style' offenses and had to read pre-snap and post-snap coverages at the college level. He's clearly smart enough to get there and with a full offseason of reps and prep I'd anticipate a nice leap next year in his passing abilities, Briles would be a detriment to his development.[/quote]

Sure he would flop if he took that same approach in the NFL. I would guess he's smarter than that.

A lot of this just comes down to coaching in college vs the pros. There's a lot of stuff you can get away with in college.

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Lol. Him saying he doesn't use a playbook just means he doesn't have that big 100 page binder like traditional coaches use for players to memorize. Lolol

He doesn't draw plays in the sand haha

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[quote=Chico23231;1042068]SS, what you think the chances Shanny returns next year? 50-50?[/quote]

Eh, I'd say probably 35% chance he returns

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Mike doesn't even look or sound like his heart is in it anymore, I'm not saying he isn't working his ass off I'm js I don't think he loves coaching as much

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1042082]Mike doesn't even look or sound like his heart is in it anymore, I'm not saying he isn't working his ass off I'm js I don't think he loves coaching as much[/quote]

Losing isn't enjoyable for anyone.

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^ Good point

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[quote=skinsfan69;1042056]I'm sure Shanahan and his assistants put in a ton of hours. I highly doubt they show up at 9am and are out by 5pm. I just find that really hard to believe. They're just not getting it done on gameday. But I will not doubt their work ethic.

Ritchie Petibone, while he was DC under Gibbs never slept in his office. Yet he was one of the best at his craft. To me it's quality time working, not the amount of hours you're at the facility.[/quote]

Oh geez....you're still on the sleeping at the office bit? You do realize you're the one who actually mentioned sleeping at the office? Secondly, how do you know RP didn't spend long hours at Redskins Park? Oh...you don't know! Thirdly, you're comparing Joe Gibbs, the head coach, to Richie Petitbon, the defensive coordinator - you do realize that makes completely no sense? Fourthly...let's compare them both as head coaches. Ah yes....now you should start seeing my point.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1042078]Eh, I'd say probably 35% chance he returns[/quote]

So Smoot, you were mentioning the musical chairs that seems to be happening in the Front Office - do you not expect A.J. Smith to be considered as the general manager? Do you feel it's going to be someone completely different? Do you have your ideas who those candidates are for this job? Will it be more of a promotion within or an outsider deal?

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[quote=skinsguy;1042089]So Smoot, you were mentioning the musical chairs that seems to be happening in the Front Office - do you not expect A.J. Smith to be considered as the general manager? Do you feel it's going to be someone completely different? Do you have your ideas who those candidates are for this job? Will it be more of a promotion within or an outsider deal?[/quote]

From what I understand, Smith wants to remain a consultant bc he doesn't wanr to have to leave Cali.

Most likely a promotion from within

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1042082]Mike doesn't even look or sound like his heart is in it anymore, I'm not saying he isn't working his ass off I'm js I don't think he loves coaching as much[/quote]

I agree. Listening to that press conference yesterday, he just seemed like he was done. Sad really, I was hoping he'd get a chance to turn it around. Evidently, he's just not the right person for the job. I'm glad he brought us to a point of respectability, but it's time for a divorce.

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[quote=mbedner3420;1042102]I agree. Listening to that press conference yesterday, he just seemed like he was done. Sad really, I was hoping he'd get a chance to turn it around. Evidently, he's just not the right person for the job. I'm glad he brought us to a point of respectability, but it's time for a divorce.[/quote]


He gave us a division crown and that's good and also RG3 and ALF, I don't hate the guy it's just not a good fit anymore

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[quote=SmootSmack;1042101]From what I understand, Smith wants to remain a consultant bc he doesn't wanr to have to leave Cali.

Most likely a promotion from within[/quote]

I see. So more than likely, we'll know something by the end of the season?

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Quote:
Originally Posted by [B]skinsfaninok[/B] [URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/54731-whos-your-picks-next-hc-dc-45.html#post1041945"][IMG]http://www.thewarpath.net/images/buttons/viewpost.gif[/IMG][/URL]
[I]I agree SS

My top 5 Candidates if they are interested in DC and we are in them..

1. Jon Gruden
2. Dungy
3. Roman
4. Lovie Smith
5. Bowles[/I]


[quote=SmootSmack;1041951]1. Depending on the day of the week he is, but generally leaning toward no
2. He's not, and I don't want him anyway
3. No idea
4. He's waiting to see what happens with the Texans
5. Very unlikely[/quote]

What's Lovie's connection/affinity for the Texans? I think you said before he's not coming here. Wondered ever since is the lack of interest mutual or one-sided (and which side)?

Generally speaking, I feel like we should command huge interest from every damn coach in the country. We have some impressive talent, an owner willing to spend amply to win, a great tradition.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1042103]He gave us a division crown and that's good and also RG3 and ALF, I don't hate the guy it's just not a good fit anymore[/quote]

Yeah, despite the assertions of some, I think he's done some good and the cupboard is more stocked at key positions (young long term starters at QB, RB, LT, TE, LB, CB) than it was when he got here in 2009.

His late career Denver history of defensive and special teams failure and his inability to build a cohesive, balanced roster as a GM may lead to the same result here.

End of the day, I'll thank him for solving the QB problem we perennially had, left some playmakers on both sides of the ball and wish him well. Stay bronze.

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Did anyone else see the graphic using the Eagles roster about what $18 million would have gotten us...

8 or 10 players including:
Jeremy Maclin
DeSean Jackson
Nick Foles
Conor Barwin
2 starting O-linemen
etc.


I think we're really seeing the impact of that bogus cap penalty right now. All of the holes in our roster should be filled with a full cap this year, but I was shocked exactly how much talent $18 mill/year can buy.

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[quote=The Goat;1042107]Quote:
Originally Posted by [B]skinsfaninok[/B] [URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/54731-whos-your-picks-next-hc-dc-45.html#post1041945"][IMG]http://www.thewarpath.net/images/buttons/viewpost.gif[/IMG][/URL]
[I]I agree SS[/I]

[I]My top 5 Candidates if they are interested in DC and we are in them..[/I]

[I]1. Jon Gruden[/I]
[I]2. Dungy[/I]
[I]3. Roman[/I]
[I]4. Lovie Smith[/I]
[I]5. Bowles[/I]




What's Lovie's connection/affinity for the Texans? I think you said before he's not coming here. Wondered ever since is the lack of interest mutual or one-sided (and which side)?

Generally speaking, I feel like we should command huge interest from every damn coach in the country. We have some impressive talent, an owner willing to spend amply to win, a great tradition.[/quote]

I'm sorry, I missed where you said this team has talent? I was laughing so hard milk came out my nose. It might be easier to look at where we DO have talent but lets go with where we don't:

OL- They couldn't stop a leaky faucet. Please don't mention Trent... he needs a snickers cause he's not him self. Hasn't been for 2 yrs now.

WR- Moss is done. He catches maybe 1 ball a game. Morgan is trash. Hankerson shows flashes but not all the time. Garcon can't do everything himself. and Robinson is the new 50/50.

The offensive strong points? QB, FB, RB, and TE.

Lets move to defense:

CB's all need replacing except Amerson. SS/FS need to go and bring in all fresh young talent. As long as I know these new young guys will over time jell and build a report.... I'm in.

The strong points of this defense are: DL (but that's not saying much) and maybe....maybe LB. We need a new young leader with a young healthy motor.

This whole scheme on special teams needs to go. Seems like the 30 yrd line is the place to be. Punter can't kick high enough and far enough. We can't keep giving teams the ball on the 30 yrd line. and we start behind the 10.

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[quote=SBXVII;1042111]I'm sorry, I missed where you said this team has talent? I was laughing so hard milk came out my nose. It might be easier to look at where we DO have talent but lets go with where we don't:

OL- They couldn't stop a leaky faucet. Please don't mention Trent... he needs a snickers cause he's not him self. Hasn't been for 2 yrs now.

WR- Moss is done. He catches maybe 1 ball a game. Morgan is trash. Hankerson shows flashes but not all the time. Garcon can't do everything himself. and Robinson is the new 50/50.

The offensive strong points? QB, FB, RB, and TE.

Lets move to defense:

CB's all need replacing except Amerson. SS/FS need to go and bring in all fresh young talent. As long as I know these new young guys will over time jell and build a report.... I'm in.

The strong points of this defense are: DL (but that's not saying much) and maybe....maybe LB. We need a new young leader with a young healthy motor.

This whole scheme on special teams needs to go. Seems like the 30 yrd line is the place to be. Punter can't kick high enough and far enough. We can't keep giving teams the ball on the 30 yrd line. and we start behind the 10.[/quote]

You are correct, this team doesnt have much talent at all. IMO, on O they have 3 playmakers, RG3, Garcon, Morris and that's not enough.

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[quote=irish;1042113]You are correct, this team doesnt have much talent at all. IMO, on O they have 3 playmakers, RG3, Garcon, Morris and that's not enough.[/quote]

I'd say Reed needs to be needs to be mentioned as well.

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Man, I still can't baffle myself on why they abandon the traditional offense every other week for the Read Option/Drop back.

We did one rollout off of PA and it resulted in a Touchdown.

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[quote=irish;1042113]You are correct, this team doesnt have much talent at all. IMO, on O they have 3 playmakers, RG3, Garcon, Morris and that's not enough.[/quote]

LOL, oh sarcasm. Awesome. Love it. Good stuff right there. ;)

Seriously, I've been a Trent fan but he seems to be letting the defenseman by just about every 3rd or 4th play. Ok yeah he slowed the dude up but they in the end still got to RG3. Our Guards suck. period. Although I love Will Montgomery he doesn't seem the same this year either. I'm not sure if it's blocking scheme or maybe they all were told to lose weight to get faster but something is not working. Who do we have at RT? What young talent do we have to be our staple book end on that side? Uh... no one.

So in reality we have RG3, Morris, Helu, Royster, Thompson, Young, Paulson, Reed. <these are the only ones I'd keep not counting Practice Squad or IR.

Maybe it's the scheme. Maybe using some other scheme would make these same guys shine but right now RG3 is running for his life cause of the flood of defenders walking through the OL. You can't deny it cause even the announcers have mentioned it every game.

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Goat, Lovie Smith grew up just a couple of hours outside of Houston. He'd like to stay in Texas

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[quote=Bucket;1042122]Man, I still can't baffle myself on why they abandon the traditional offense every other week for the Read Option/Drop back.

We did one rollout off of PA and it resulted in a Touchdown.[/quote]


Yeah I was baffled all game. If you would have asked me ahead of time how I would beat the Eagles I would have said throw down the middle of the field to open slots. Force the defense to back off the line and defend the pass then start running the ball.

Instead.... the team kept trying to force the run. They didn't even go to the heavy pass, hurry up offense until 4th quarter and it was working.

My in game adjustment I kept yelling at my tv or radio about.... I would have started the hurry up offense in the second quarter, I would have rolled RG3 out more since it was blatantly obvious the Eagles were running through the center of our OL.

Their killing me with the "pitch" runs. If I remember correctly it only worked like once and it did go for a TD. Otherwise. Nada. Maybe it works once in a game for + yardage.

Our coaching staff did nothing until after the half and nothing until the 4th quarter. Maybe by design I don't know but waaaaay toooo late.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1042138]Goat, Lovie Smith grew up just a couple of hours outside of Houston. He'd like to stay in Texas[/quote]

Thank God. Pretty bad when a coach has to protect us from ourselves.

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[quote=skinsguy;1042087]Oh geez....you're still on the sleeping at the office bit? You do realize you're the one who actually mentioned sleeping at the office? Secondly, how do you know RP didn't spend long hours at Redskins Park? Oh...you don't know! Thirdly, you're comparing Joe Gibbs, the head coach, to Richie Petitbon, the defensive coordinator - you do realize that makes completely no sense? Fourthly...let's compare them both as head coaches. Ah yes....now you should start seeing my point.[/quote]

I know he didn't sleep there....reliable sources! And when did I say he didn't put in long hours? I just said he didn't sleep at Redskin Park. Stop putting words in my mouth.

Also..when did I compare the two as head coaches?

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[quote=SBXVII;1042111]I'm sorry, I missed where you said this team has talent? I was laughing so hard milk came out my nose. It might be easier to look at where we DO have talent but lets go with where we don't:

OL- They couldn't stop a leaky faucet. Please don't mention Trent... he needs a snickers cause he's not him self. Hasn't been for 2 yrs now.

WR- Moss is done. He catches maybe 1 ball a game. Morgan is trash. Hankerson shows flashes but not all the time. Garcon can't do everything himself. and Robinson is the new 50/50.

The offensive strong points? QB, FB, RB, and TE.

Lets move to defense:

CB's all need replacing except Amerson. SS/FS need to go and bring in all fresh young talent. As long as I know these new young guys will over time jell and build a report.... I'm in.

The strong points of this defense are: DL (but that's not saying much) and maybe....maybe LB. We need a new young leader with a young healthy motor.

This whole scheme on special teams needs to go. Seems like the 30 yrd line is the place to be. Punter can't kick high enough and far enough. We can't keep giving teams the ball on the 30 yrd line. and we start behind the 10.[/quote]


Agree with most except TW, he's an all pro and most people have said it during our games

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[quote=SBXVII;1042139]Yeah I was baffled all game. If you would have asked me ahead of time how I would beat the Eagles I would have said throw down the middle of the field to open slots. Force the defense to back off the line and defend the pass then start running the ball.

Instead.... the team kept trying to force the run. They didn't even go to the heavy pass, hurry up offense until 4th quarter and it was working.

My in game adjustment I kept yelling at my tv or radio about.... I would have started the hurry up offense in the second quarter, I would have rolled RG3 out more since it was blatantly obvious the Eagles were running through the center of our OL.

Their killing me with the "pitch" runs. If I remember correctly it only worked like once and it did go for a TD. Otherwise. Nada. Maybe it works once in a game for + yardage.

Our coaching staff did nothing until after the half and nothing until the 4th quarter. Maybe by design I don't know but waaaaay toooo late.[/quote]

Yeah, we were down 24-0 and ran a dive play.. My thought was, well I'm glad we set this up all game.. We owned time of possession and yardage so I'm not sure why we didn't up the tempo. Seems like a flaw of this staff not to recognize when a change is needed quickly enough. Lynch was praising the play calling when we were down 17-0 for 'not abandoning the gameplan' which is like praising the flight attendants for finishing beverage service on a plane plummeting through 18,000 feet.

There are certain assumptions I had about this staff that have proven false time and time again. It took me a while (almost as long as it does for Haslett to adjust) but I've mentally pulled the plug on this regime.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1042138]Goat, Lovie Smith grew up just a couple of hours outside of Houston. He'd like to stay in Texas[/quote]

Ahhhh. What about the larger question of the Skins attracting coaching talent? Is it a desired job/market?

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[quote=Bucket;1042122]Man, I still can't baffle myself on why they abandon the traditional offense every other week for the Read Option/Drop back.

We did one rollout off of PA and it resulted in a Touchdown.[/quote]Bootlegs were a staple of Shanahan's WCO in Denver. Perhaps he needs to bench the play caller (Kyle), and get back to calling the plays himself.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1042143[B]]I know he didn't sleep there....reliable sources![/B] And when did I say he didn't put in long hours? I just said he didn't sleep at Redskin Park. Stop putting words in my mouth. [/quote]

Bull crap to your reliable sources. Stop wasting my time lying to me. Secondly, what the hell is wrong with you? You keep blabbering on about sleeping at Redskin Park? Nobody is putting words in your mouth. Trust me, if I did, you'd make a lot more sense.

[quote=skinsfan69;1042143[B]]Also..when did I compare the two as head coaches?[/quote]

You didn't. Which is why your comparison of a defensive coordinator to a head coach is pointless and yet baffling as well. The head coach has far more responsibility than a coordinator. He's gotta make it all work because it falls back in his lap.

Skinsfan69, why don't you go back to my earlier post and re-read the whole thing instead of spouting off about sleeping at Redskins Park. I think you'll find that.....you know what, nevermind. You're too lazy to go back and read anyway, so I'll just repost what I posted earlier:

[quote="skinsguy"]I suppose, now, it's probably inevitable that the Redskins will be rolling with a new coaching staff next year. My only word of caution on that is the "anybody but Shanahan is better" approach is NOT the way to go. Because, just anybody isn't a better option than Mike Shanahan. No matter how this season ends (and it looks to end badly) I maintain my admiration for the good things/the right things that Mike Shanahan has done for this team. The bottom line is, I realize, wins and loses.

With that said, if what Smootsmack has said is what's happening in terms of the front office, then let the new GM pick the head coach and let that head coach pick his coordinators and assistant coaches. I don't personally have a favorite in terms of head coaching candidates, but I do have traits/personalities/work ethics that need to be a must if he is to succeed in Washington.

The new head coach is going to have to be a disciplinarian, first and foremost. It is not acceptable to bring in a "bright offensive mind" that has no idea how to establish discipline. I'd argue that it's pretty easy to find a bright offensive mind - but none of it works without discipline.

Secondly, the coach needs to have a work ethic that is common to what we saw when Joe Gibbs coached this team in the 80's. Someone who's willing to live, eat, and breathe Redskins football. Someone who is willing to put in the hours it takes to make this team a winner. If he's not willing to stay (and live) at Redskins Park until the wee hours of the morning, I don't want him in Washington. [COLOR="DarkRed"]<- This says nothing about sleeping at Redskins Park. Context clues would tell intelligent people I meant the coach stays at the park until he feels he's 100% ready for gameday. [/COLOR]

Lastly, the coach needs to have an eye of talent. It's not always the GM (alone) that brings in the players - the coaches have say as well. This new coach will need to work closely with the GM to bring in exactly what he needs. It can't simply be "we bring in the players, you coach them" approach. That doesn't work.

The next six weeks will be interesting.[/quote]