Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

22mil/year 50 mil guaranteed.

Pay the man. :goodjob:

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[quote=skinsfan69;1156277]You know, he sure got a lot of hate around here when he was fired. And some of it was deserved. But where would we be right now if he didn't take KC in the 4th round of the 12 draft? He knew something, or had a hunch that maybe he needed a plan B if Griffin didn't work out. That draft pick might prove to be the best one around here in decades.[/quote]

I agree with everything you said.And I still think Mike is too blame for Griff blowing out his knee.Theres no way to ever tell if Griff would have panned out if he wouldnt have{suffered knee injury} but still the coach has to have more sense then that and not play Griff when he was basically on one leg.If he had the faith in Cousins to draft him he should have played him in that playoff game,but that is a discussion for another day.
Getting back to Kirk,when I first weighed in on this subject I wanted to take the wait and see approach,which I have been doing.If the season ended today obviously its a no brainer and should stay that way unless Kirk just absolutely goes into the tank for the rest of the season.If Kirk can beat the cowboys give him 30 million a year lol

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[quote=htownskinfan;1156283]I agree with everything you said.And I still think Mike is too blame for Griff blowing out his knee.Theres no way to ever tell if Griff would have panned out if he wouldnt have{suffered knee injury} but still the coach has to have more sense then that and not play Griff when he was basically on one leg.If he had the faith in Cousins to draft him he should have played him in that playoff game,but that is a discussion for another day.
Getting back to Kirk,when I first weighed in on this subject I wanted to take the wait and see approach,which I have been doing.If the season ended today obviously its a no brainer and should stay that way unless Kirk just absolutely goes into the tank for the rest of the season.If Kirk can beat the cowboys give him 30 million a year lol[/quote]

Well, Griffin still had his chances here. Even when he was healthy in 14 and 15 off seasons. As it turned out, KC was just the better player and beat him out in 15 training camp. All water under the bridge of course...

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Hey Scott ...

[url]https://vine.co/v/5tejxzEHJPd[/url]

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

Cousins was 21 of 30...whoaaa

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=skinsfan69;1156277]You know, he sure got a lot of hate around here when he was fired. And some of it was deserved. But where would we be right now if he didn't take KC in the 4th round of the 12 draft? He knew something, or had a hunch that maybe he needed a plan B if Griffin didn't work out. That draft pick might prove to be the best one around here in decades.[/quote]

Shanny is a football guy and
Snyder is a money guy. RG3 was a big cash cow so Shanny was in a no win situation.

Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

Cousins really showed what he can do tonight - arm strength, good decisions, giving all credit to everyone else. Hard not to love the guy. And yeah, he needs to be paid. He's going to shred every franchise record by a mile at this pace.


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Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

41 td's
12 int's
Over the last 21 games. Yeah lets save money and get a stop gap code red baller in here. Anybody can do what Cousins does. Smh.

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[QUOTE=JoeRedskin;1156290]Hey Scott ...



[url]https://vine.co/v/5tejxzEHJPd[/url][/QUOTE]



Guess KC is holding all the cards, but that is uncomfortable to watch. Lol

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[quote=punch it in;1156317]Guess KC is holding all the cards, but that is uncomfortable to watch. Lol[/quote]

Not a bit uncomfortable for me. In fact, it's thrilling to see as a fan. It shows that Cousins believes in himself, has the fire in his belly, and believes he has proven his worth. That is [U]all[/U] good for the Redskins and their fans.

We have our Franchise QB and he's getting better every game. That a huge piece of the puzzle. We're on our way now.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

I don't think I've ever seen KC throw it better than he did last night. In those conditions. He was throwing lasers, into the teeth of the wind. That was a Tom Brady kind of game and I consider him the best bad weather QB.

This is why the Colt talk was just beyond laughable. He could not have made the throws that KC did last night.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

Kirk is a franchise QB !! I still don't believe that scott is on board with this. I hope he is but It was somewhat telling watching Kirk tell him ..did YOU like that!! Scott had a reluctant attitude to me. There is some tension going on the there. Jay knows what we have. I hope the deal gets done .

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1156290]Hey Scott ...

[url]https://vine.co/v/5tejxzEHJPd[/url][/quote]

That was , awkward.

I think Kirk has a bit of a chip on his shoulder and last night in a emotionally moment kind of told Scott off. Too say/yell it twice and rub Scott's head, i don't know kind of disrespectful IMO but not fully knowing their relationship who really knows.

Kirk holds the cards barring injury someone is paying this dude next year; so if Scott is offend I am sure their are plenty of other GM's who pay the guy.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[I]How you like me now!!!!” So there was this strange Vine (didn’t Vine die?) after Washington’s massacre of the Packers last night. It’s quarterback Kirk Cousins, following one of the best games of his life (21 of 30, 375 yards, three touchdowns, no picks, 145.8 rating), being approached by GM Scot McCloughan, captured by a CSN Mid-Atlantic camera and microphone. “How you like me now!!! How you like me now!!!” Cousins screams, while McCloughan attempts to hug him. Cousins doesn’t return the hug. McCloughan says, “Good job. Good stuff, man,” and they slap hands, and a glaring Cousins then runs his hand over McCloughan’s head. It was … a little weird. There’s never any joy on either man’s face, as you figure there might after you beat the Green Bay Packers decisively. Last year, Cousins threw for 4,166 yards, completed 70 percent of his throws, with 29 touchdowns and 11 interceptions. He was a free agent, and Washington didn’t pay him what he thought he was worth. Cousins signed a one-year, $19.95-million deal with Washington in July. He didn’t seem particularly happy about not getting a long-term deal but stiff-upper-lipped the topic whenever asked about all summer. He told our Albert Breer in training camp, “I’m not going to take things personally,” and “Here I am. The team says they want to see another year. That’s fine.” It didn’t seem fine after his best game of the season late Sunday night. What does it mean? Probably nothing. If Cousins harbors a grudge against his GM, he can join about 300 NFL players who do the same. But it doesn’t mean he won’t end up signing a long contract with Washington, because he’s clearly in the process of proving he deserves what the upper echelon of quarterbacks makes. McCloughan’s a smart personnel guy, working for an owner who won’t let Cousins get away. That’s how I see it.
- Peter King[/I]

I guess in the end it means nothing. I don't know who Scott M can get better then KC at this point; probably going to have to over pay him a bit.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1156322]I don't think I've ever seen KC throw it better than he did last night. In those conditions. He was throwing lasers, into the teeth of the wind. That was a Tom Brady kind of game and I consider him the best bad weather QB.

This is why the Colt talk was just beyond laughable. He could not have made the throws that KC did last night.[/quote]

I said it last year and this year. Kirk's doesn't lose velocity on his throws. The whole "weak arm" theory is nonsense made by the style of offense we run, and Jays wind comments last year.

Kirk has a tight spiral and has the 2nd highest arm velocity in NFL Combine history. Ahead of QB'S like...

Cam Newton
Kaepernick
Rodgers
RG3

So no, I'm not surprised he threw into the wind for 60 yards and it didn't flutter. This is what makes him so accurate on intermediate throws and best for WCO. His ball never tails off in the air and loses speed. I'm surprised so many people are just now noticing this.

The 2nd highest velocity rating in NFL Combine history. Let's not fabricate his arm strength or lack there of anymore.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

Kirk can spin it, no doubt.

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Kirk was pretty disrespectful to SM last night. SM is the general manager and was doing his job by making the decision to franchise him. Me and many others all thought that was the best option. And Kirk still got 20 million, not like he is still playing on his rookie contract. That being said, as of now he holds all the cards and will be getting how money here or somewhere else.

He played amazing last night. Just about a perfect game and we needed that win badly going into a tough game on very short rest.

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How you like me now was disrespectful? Man a lot is being made of that. I took it as nothing more than heat of the battle stuff. KC was obviously pumped, I really don't think McCloughan took any offense at all.

It's a win/win for Kirk and McCloughan right now.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=MTK;1156353]How you like me now was disrespectful? Man a lot is being made of that. I took it as nothing more than heat of the battle stuff. KC was obviously pumped, I really don't think McCloughan took any offense at all.

It's a win/win for Kirk and McCloughan right now.[/quote]

More so, it was the combination of yelling in his face then rubbing his head like SM is his younger brother.

I don't think it's a big deal. Probably already over with. But I wouldn't do that to my boss lol.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1156355]More so, it was the combination of yelling in his face then rubbing his head like SM is his younger brother.

I don't think it's a big deal. Probably already over with. But I wouldn't do that to my boss lol.[/quote]

It was an awkward scene, Kirk looked downright angry, and I saw a separate interview of him coming off the field that he was far more calm. His rubbing SM's head was a direct response to SM punching his chest. I do think SM loves that type of emotion in football players.

All that said, when the two sides go over it once the season ends, KC is going to be happy with his paycheck!

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1156352]Kirk was pretty disrespectful to SM last night. SM is the general manager and was doing his job by making the decision to franchise him. Me and many others all thought that was the best option. And Kirk still got 20 million, not like he is still playing on his rookie contract. That being said, as of now he holds all the cards and will be getting how money here or somewhere else.

He played amazing last night. Just about a perfect game and we needed that win badly going into a tough game on very short rest.[/quote]

I don't think KC was disrespectful at all.
Scott M. and Redskins FO made a [B]very public decision[/B] by not giving KC a long term deal. The Redskins FO doubted KC professionally and everyone in the Football world knew it. You also doubted him.
Any human being with an once of pride would take that as a challenge. Prove you are worthy.
Putting it into that context, KC was not disrespectful.
He was just reminding one of the guys that doubted him professionally of what he just accomplished.
If it was a little emotional, that is to be expected. KC was vindicated.
Not sure how much more he needs to prove himself?

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

Interesting listening to Kirk this morning on The Fan. He openly said that him still being in Washington and starting was solely due to Scott McLoughan. Scott believed in him and gave him that chance last year. Tells you there were forces very much against Kirk. (my guess namely Dan and Bruce)



[B]@granthpaulsen

Kirk Cousins says Scot McCloughan re-affirmed him halfway through last season and it helped him as he ascended in 2nd-half. #Redskins[/B]



[url]https://twitter.com/granthpaulsen/status/800729679959244800[/url]

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

I get being excited, but maybe tone it down a notch or 2. And I don't think this will have any long term affects.

As of now he's definitely earned a long term contract. Big time improvements over the course of this season.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1156363]Interesting listening to Kirk this morning on The Fan. He openly said that him still being in Washington and starting was solely due to Scott McLoughan. Scott believed in him and gave him that chance last year. Tells you there were forces very much against Kirk. (my guess namely Dan and Bruce)



[B]@granthpaulsen

Kirk Cousins says Scot McCloughan re-affirmed him halfway through last season and it helped him as he ascended in 2nd-half. #Redskins[/B]



[url]https://twitter.com/granthpaulsen/status/800729679959244800[/url][/quote]


Dan was mos def against...and if I remember right, think SS said Dan wanted Cousins traded.

Things change, Cousins will be here for a long time folks.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=NC_Skins;1156363]Interesting listening to Kirk this morning on The Fan. He openly said that him still being in Washington and starting was solely due to Scott McLoughan. Scott believed in him and gave him that chance last year. Tells you there were forces very much against Kirk. (my guess namely Dan and Bruce)



[B]@granthpaulsen

Kirk Cousins says Scot McCloughan re-affirmed him halfway through last season and it helped him as he ascended in 2nd-half. #Redskins[/B]



[url]https://twitter.com/granthpaulsen/status/800729679959244800[/url][/quote]


If true (and I realize there's some supposition involved here), it just confirms that neither Dan nor Bruce should be anywhere near personnel decisions. I thought it was interesting that as pissed as Aaron Rodgers was last night, even though he grimaced when he congratulated Cousins, he paused for a moment, and then said something that Cousins seemed to take as respectful and encouraging. You can tell Rodgers is upset with how the Packers season has gone (and he's been awesome in recent weeks -- not many QBs would have lost a game playing the way he played last night). But whatever he said to Cousins seemed, at least from the body language of both men, to be genuine.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

Kirk was merely fired up. Scot loves this stuff! He (SM) ate it up! This is what he wants to see out of Kirk Cousins. It's what we all want to see. I hope KC is as "disrespectful" week in and week out! The dude is balling! Pay him!

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[quote=metalskins;1156367]Kirk was merely fired up. Scot loves this stuff! He (SM) ate it up! This is what he wants to see out of Kirk Cousins. It's what we all want to see. I hope KC is as "disrespectful" week in and week out! The dude is balling! Pay him![/quote]

Lol, yeah, SM would probably let Cousins dick kick him after every game if he threw for 375 and multiple tds with no turnovers.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1156355]More so, it was the combination of yelling in his face then rubbing his head like SM is his younger brother.

I don't think it's a big deal. Probably already over with. But I wouldn't do that to my boss lol.[/quote]

Football isn't the regular job that most of us go to everyday. Now if he did that to Snyder???

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I don't think KC was being disrespectful. But I do think there is and has always has been slight tension between Snyder/Allen and KC and his agent.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=metalskins;1156367]Kirk was merely fired up. Scot loves this stuff! He (SM) ate it up! This is what he wants to see out of Kirk Cousins. It's what we all want to see. I hope KC is as "disrespectful" week in and week out! The dude is balling! Pay him![/quote]


Looking at this video of it, you pretty much are correct.


[url]https://twitter.com/NBC4Sports/status/800575918125158401[/url]

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[QUOTE=NC_Skins;1156385]Looking at this video of it, you pretty much are correct.





[url]https://twitter.com/NBC4Sports/status/800575918125158401[/url][/QUOTE]


It's all good, as usual people making something out of nothing.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

Don't know if you are referring to just on this site, or in general. Having an opinion isn't making nothing out of something. But no one here said that this is going to ruin their relationship and he won't get signed now. Just noting that it's a bit of an unusual way to act with your boss.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=Chico23231;1156365]Dan was mos def against...and if I remember right, think SS said Dan wanted Cousins traded.

Things change, Cousins will be here for a long time folks.[/quote]

So, Dan buys the franchise. He makes one bad FO and HC hiring decision after another. He tries to be his own GM and makes one historically bad player personnel decision after another. And he does this for [U]twenty[/U] [U]years[/U]!

Then it seems that he finally realizes the error of his ways when he hires Scot McCloughan, one of the best GM's in the business. And now, you're telling me he is still pushing his GM to make poor decisions on critical player personnel just when the franchise is about to turn the corner on the field? It's damn near unbelievable that he would do that, yet I do believe it. Hubris. Pure hubris.

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[url=http://www.marthastewart.com/851307/chicken-reuben]Chicken Reuben Recipe | Martha Stewart[/url]

This is something I could get into....and Im talking the sandwich, not Martha Stewart. Even though I might consider getting into her too

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1156390]Don't know if you are referring to just on this site, or in general. Having an opinion isn't making nothing out of something. But no one here said that this is going to ruin their relationship and he won't get signed now. Just noting that it's a bit of an unusual way to act with your boss.[/QUOTE]


In the real world sure, I wouldn't yell in my boss's ear and ruffle his hair. Just like I wouldn't pat my coworkers on the ass or jump on them if they did something good.

Sports are not a typical work environment needless to say.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=MTK;1156393]In the real world sure, I wouldn't yell in my boss's ear and ruffle his hair. Just like I wouldn't pat my coworkers on the ass or jump on them if they did something good.

Sports are not a typical work environment needless to say.[/quote]

Ive been trying to get a squad of cheerleaders in here for the past 10 years...needless to say, it aint happening

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=MTK;1156393]In the real world sure, I wouldn't yell in my boss's ear and ruffle his hair. Just like I wouldn't pat my coworkers on the ass or jump on them if they did something good.

Sports are not a typical work environment needless to say.[/quote]

Lol, touché. Like I said, its nothing I'm worried about just an observation.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=Chico23231;1156394]Ive been trying to get a squad of cheerleaders in here for the past 10 years...needless to say, it aint happening[/quote]

You should ask for a $20,000,000.00 raise instead.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=Chico23231;1156392][url=http://www.marthastewart.com/851307/chicken-reuben]Chicken Reuben Recipe | Martha Stewart[/url]

This is something I could get into....and Im talking the sandwich, not Martha Stewart. Even though I might consider getting into her too[/quote]

After all the commercials yesterday I really do want to research the history of the Rueben Sandwich.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=KI Skins Fan;1156398]You should ask for a $20,000,000.00 raise instead.[/quote]

Franchise tagged again...