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[quote=Giantone;1196085]I find it odd that the few here that are anti media are quiet about the Shooting at the Capital gazette newspaper in Annapolis .I am sure they will deny that the anti media lies that have been spawned by trump and his supporters had nothing to do with this at all . Winning..........................?

[url]https://www.yahoo.com/news/maryland-shooting-trump-ducks-questions-092824111.html[/url]


[url=http://www.businessinsider.com/milo-yiannopoulos-journalists-gunned-down-before-capital-gazette-attack-2018-6]Milo Yiannopoulos incited violence before Capital Gazette attack - Business Insider[/url][LEFT][LEFT][/LEFT][/LEFT]


[url]https://thinkprogress.org/sean-hannity-blames-rep-maxine-waters-for-shooting-in-annapolis-cd54cbb2b9a7/[/url][/quote]

The shooting wasn't politically motivated.

Its fairly poor how the left was high fiving and insinuating somehow Trump or a trump supporter was responsible.

Its funny how now the media has pulled back on that assumption and have "edited" out any inkling.

I guess this wasn't the narrative they were hoping for...this guy had a long standing grudge against the paper which had run a story, there had been a lawsuit....

But carry on trying to make this about Trump and his supporters.

its pathetic at this point...

here you go:

[url]https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/29/politics/shooting-suspect-court-battle/index.html[/url]

In July 2011, Ramos was charged with criminal harassment in the District Court of Maryland and pleaded guilty. He was placed on 18 months of supervised probation and was ordered to continue therapy, court documents show.

Less than a week after Ramos' conviction, an article titled "Jarrod wants to be your friend" ran in the Sunday edition of the Capital Gazette. The story, which was written by staff writer Eric Thomas Hartley, detailed the case where Ramos repeatedly contacted a former high school classmate via Facebook, according to court documents.

Court records show that a year later, in July 2012, Ramos filed a complaint against Hartley and the newspaper, alleging he was defamed by the story.

Months later, Ramos filed another complaint and added a charge of invasion of privacy. The case was eventually dismissed.

The 2011 article about Ramos said he attended Arundel High School, studied computer engineering and was an employee of the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

A Twitter account with Ramos' name and the handle @EricHartleyFrnd is believed to be Ramos', a law enforcement source said. The account has tweeted several times about the paper and Hartley.

"Eric Thomas Harley knows from experience, but doesn't appreciate how bad it can get. Journalist Hell awaits," a tweet from the account in December 2015 read.




But please, carry on....

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[quote=Chico23231;1196087]The shooting wasn't politically motivated.

Its fairly poor how the left was high fiving and insinuating somehow Trump or a trump supporter was responsible.

Its funny how now the media has pulled back on that assumption and have "edited" out any inkling.

...[/quote]
Trump has made this type of behavior acceptable, his constant attacks on the free press has brought this type of hatred out in people .I see you try to spin but then you turn around and blame the media again. In a few years when you guys are older...........maybe you will see the damage trump has done and pray to God someone can stop it or fix it.



[url=http://www.businessinsider.com/milo-yiannopoulos-journalists-gunned-down-before-capital-gazette-attack-2018-6]Milo Yiannopoulos comments on vigilantes 'gunning journalists down' - Business Insider[/url]

I see none of you addressed this............




Two days before Thursday's shooting at the Capital Gazette newsroom, Milo Yiannopoulos had told an Observer journalist "I can't wait for the vigilante squads to start gunning journalists down on sight."
Five people were killed and several more injured on Thursday at the Maryland newspaper.
Yiannopoulos has since defended his message as a joke while further criticizing the media.

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Here is the Huffpost incorrectly insinuating the attack were politically motivated...actually stating "they don't know yet" and then making the assumption:

[url]https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/journalism-deadly-day-911_us_5b355ee4e4b007aa2f7e853f[/url]

Clearly fake news


G1, this wasn't a politically motivated attack. Refer to the CNN report which gives clear motive for the mass killing.

This guy didn't kill people based on whatever Milo said (why does the left continue to relevance to this guy?)

I understand your upset that this doesn't fit the narrative you want...you want to be celebrating this event as one where you can fit your politics into the story and point the finger at the right and Trump.

Lets remember the victims today

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[quote=Chico23231;1196089]Here is the Huffpost incorrectly insinuating the attack were politically motivated...actually stating "they don't know yet" and then making the assumption:

[url]https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/journalism-deadly-day-911_us_5b355ee4e4b007aa2f7e853f[/url]

Clearly fake news


G1, this wasn't a politically motivated attack. Refer to the CNN report which gives clear motive for the mass killing.

This guy didn't kill people based on whatever Milo said (why does the left continue to relevance to this guy?)

I understand your upset that this doesn't fit the narrative you want...you want to be celebrating this event as one where you can fit your politics into the story and point the finger at the right and Trump.

Lets remember the victims today[/quote]

Chico , please find the post I said it was "politically motivated"?I'll wait, your spin is showing.I said it has been trumps behavior and rhetoric that has made this type of attack acceptable ,he has campaigned on it. Read my link about "Milo" you might educate yourself and understand how hate speech works.By the way the victims were in my thoughts yesterday and today.You're no different then trump you get caught with your "narrative" down and you blame others instead of admitting you're wrong or you made a mistake.


#triggered/spin

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Five people died b/c a crazy man killed them. Not even 24 hours have passed and these peoples' deaths have become a political football. Rather than rush to judgment on his motivations, how about we recognize the tragedy, grieve for the lost, and ponder how to best move forward? Just a thought.

The shooter was a man with a personal vendetta against the paper that he been carrying for years after they published a story of his criminal harassment of woman. He had sued the paper for defamation as a result and been fighting them in the courts for years while blasting them on social media. Last week, Maryland's highest court denied his final appeal of the matter and effectively ended his ability to pursue his claims against them through the judicial process.

Now five people are dead. It's crazy. It's tragic. It's not politics.

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[quote=Giantone;1196090]Chico , please find the post I said it was "politically motivated"?I'll wait, your spin is showing.I said it has been trumps behavior and rhetoric that has made this type of attack acceptable ,he has campaigned on it. Read my link about "Milo" you might educate yourself and understand how hate speech works.By the way the victims were in my thoughts yesterday and today.You're no different then trump you get caught with your "narrative" down and you blame others instead of admitting you're wrong or you made a mistake.


#triggered/spin[/quote]

G1, we are gonna get through this together. Its good to know you're not jumping to conclusions like many leftists & media organizations did yesterday and you fully understand Trump had nothing to do with shooting from yesterday. zero zilch nada.

And I agree with you above, I never take a L

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By the way, incredible props to the Capitol Gazette today. They printed a morning edition today.

This is not the Washington Post or New York Times folks. This is a small local paper that said "We have a job to do. We will do it." I cannot begin to express the admiration and respect I have for them.

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I’m glad his motive wasn’t political. Next time it might be though. This may be a good time for P-Grabber to reflect on the potential damage that can be done by his constant rhetoric and vitriol towards the media.

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Annapolis Police Chief Tommy Altomare on the Capital Gazette shooter:

"I will not say his name today. I refuse to do it. I wish you [the media] wouldn’t do it, but I know better. He doesn’t deserve us to talk about him one more second."

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[quote=MTK;1196097]I’m glad his motive wasn’t political. Next time it might be though. This may be a good time for P-Grabber to reflect on the potential damage that can be done by his constant rhetoric and vitriol towards the media.[/quote]

I think the media bias is fair game...especially when they run front page stories that criticize everything from handshakes, attire, etc and avert from actual substantial items as equitable jobs across all field and classes, rising wealth among minorities classes especially Hispanics, and the rapid destruction of ISIS and their operations across the world.

Media bias is certainly fair game when the object is to discredit the administration at every turn, while splintering the country for revenue purposes.

Violence towards the media is unacceptable. If you "want to have a conversation" about how Trump has criticized the media, its a 2 way street. I would certainly advise the administration to meet more often and try to soften the combative tone...but media combative tone should soften as well. To say the mainstream media is innocent is certainly laughable at this point.

I think the bigger issue is just how combative social media has become in all this...Twitter yesterday from 4:00-8...was disgusting. You cant blame Russia for this. We need to do better...

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1196098]Annapolis Police Chief Tommy Altomare on the Capital Gazette shooter:

"I will not say his name today. I refuse to do it. I wish you [the media] wouldn’t do it, but I know better. He doesn’t deserve us to talk about him one more second."[/quote]

I saw this , props to him!

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[quote=Chico23231;1196099]I think the media bias is fair game...especially when they run front page stories that criticize everything from handshakes, attire, etc and avert from actual substantial items as equitable jobs across all field and classes, rising wealth among minorities classes especially Hispanics, and the rapid destruction of ISIS and their operations across the world.

Media bias is certainly fair game when the object is to discredit the administration at every turn, while splintering the country for revenue purposes.

Violence towards the media is unacceptable. If you "want to have a conversation" about how Drumpf has criticized the media, its a 2 way street. I would certainly advise the administration to meet more often and try to soften the combative tone...but media combative tone should soften as well. To say the mainstream media is innocent is certainly laughable at this point.

[B]I think the bigger issue is just how combative social media has become in all this...Twitter yesterday from 4:00-8...was disgusting. You can blame Russia for this. We need to do better...[/B][/quote]

In EVERYTHING. I'm at the point of just deleting all of my social media accounts and just never viewing the comments section. Shocking how many people, for real or not, wish/threaten violence on another group for basically not agreeing with them.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1196102]In EVERYTHING. I'm at the point of just deleting all of my social media accounts and just never viewing the comments section. Shocking how many people, for real or not, wish/threaten violence on another group for basically not agreeing with them.[/quote]

I just look and laugh...or cringe in horror. Its fairly terrible and its both side.

Have you noticed too the trend of when someone famous dies then people celebrate? statements of Im glad he's dead, or that's person in hell etc. I saw one the other day in when Charles Krathamer died...person was like, "I remember that one article he wrote in Time in 1989 which was racist (of course...that's the go-to) and now he is in hell." I look and the guy picture on twitter must have been 85...I was like jeez dude...little karma could be coming your way soon.

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It only took five people dying for trump to say this...............



[url]https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/e474d29c-c90e-3b29-a460-74f37efb5482/trump-now-says-journalists.html[/url]



U.S.
Trump Now Says Journalists Should Be ‘Free From Fear’ After Previously Calling Them ‘Enemies of the People’




After years of repeatedly calling journalists “the enemy of the people,” President Trump on Friday struck a markedly different tone towards the media, saying in the aftermath of a deadly shooting at the Capital Gazette’s newsroom that journalists should be “free from the fear” of violence while doing their jobs. “I’d like to address the horrific shooting that took place yesterday at Capital Gazette newsroom in Annapolis, Maryland. This attack shocked the conscience of our nation and filled our hearts with grief,” Trump said while addressing an audience in the White House.

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[quote=MTK;1196013]McConnell has said “one of my proudest moments” was looking Obama in the eye and telling him he would block his Supreme Court nominee.



Straight up highway robbery by the turtle, disgusting[/quote]

Speaking of disgusting...............


[url]https://thinkprogress.org/trump-justin-anthony-kennedy-deutsche-bank-scotus-4ba95e7ce0be/[/url]

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[quote=Chico23231;1195614]He's a psychopath who murdered probably 100k + of his own country men.

Do you want him with 30-50 nuclear weapons on delivery systems that can reach the U.S. as well as other allies across the world?

So which is it, military force in reducing the threat or a diplomatic path?

Or you want the Obama way of doing nothing...the wait and see approach?[/quote]


......or you can do it the trump way and have a fuckin psychopath make you look like a fucking fool.


[url]https://www.aol.com/article/news/2018/06/29/north-korea-has-increased-nuclear-production-at-secret-sites-say-officials/23471506/[/url]


North Korea has increased nuclear production at secret sites, say officials

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1196108]......or you can do it the trump way and have a fuckin psychopath make you look like a fucking fool.


[url]https://www.aol.com/article/news/2018/06/29/north-korea-has-increased-nuclear-production-at-secret-sites-say-officials/23471506/[/url]


North Korea has increased nuclear production at secret sites, say officials[/QUOTE]Not a very secret site. Trump has said all along that we would continue the talks only if NK is a good actor. We havent made any concessions that can't be reversed simply. That's how you deal with an untrustworthy partner. All the more reason why Trump's negotiation style is suited to NK. If they continue the wrong path then we have sticks (restarting war games) that are not escalatory in nature but send a clear message that lack of substance will not help NKs cause.

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[url]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44666242[/url]

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[quote=MTK;1196112][url]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44666242[/url][/quote]

Lol...that dude is good. G1 one should give his boy a call.

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[quote=Chico23231;1196113]Lol...that dude is good. G1 one should give his boy a call.[/quote]

.........what boy?


Your post's of recent have me thinking you might have this...................



[url=http://captainsnark.freeforums.net/thread/18/eddie-haskell-syndrome]The Eddie Haskell Syndrome | The wonderful world of Captain Snark[/url]

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[quote=Giantone;1196114].........what boy?


Your post's of recent have me thinking you might have this...................



[url=http://captainsnark.freeforums.net/thread/18/eddie-haskell-syndrome]The Eddie Haskell Syndrome | The wonderful world of Captain Snark[/url][/quote]

G1 it was a joke man. Lawd! Light hearted..dude chill.

U wouldn’t call bigly?

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[quote=Giantone;1196107]Speaking of disgusting...............


[url]https://thinkprogress.org/trump-justin-anthony-kennedy-deutsche-bank-scotus-4ba95e7ce0be/[/url][/quote]

I saw that too. Personally, I have no idea if this is some quid-pro-quo deal or not but if it is I hope Mueller's investigation wraps it up before the next Justice is confirmed. I fully expect it to be in line with Trump's nominating the worst possible guy/gal for critical positions. Still, even if there are too many "incidental" coincidences I don't expect anything to come of it. We are looking at a conservative SC for the next 30-40 years imo.

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[quote=Chico23231;1196115]G1 it was a joke man. Lawd! Light hearted..dude chill.

U wouldn’t call bigly?[/quote]

.............who use's the word "dude" anymore???

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[quote=mooby;1196116]I saw that too. Personally, I have no idea if this is some quid-pro-quo deal or not but if it is I hope Mueller's investigation wraps it up before the next Justice is confirmed. I fully expect it to be in line with Trump's nominating the worst possible guy/gal for critical positions. Still, even if there are too many "incidental" coincidences I don't expect anything to come of it. We are looking at a conservative SC for the next 30-40 years imo.[/quote]

Yes more conspiracy theories. I’m sure it’s true.

Mitch told your party, obama, and you the voter you would live to regret this and you would regret it sooner than you think.

Your party should have never change the rules.

Dems need to own it now. And they need to explain it to you and all the Democratic voters...they owe you that. Unless somehow you agreed with basic stupidity of the move. The question now is, why the hell is the same democrats in power of the party?

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[quote=mooby;1196116]I saw that too. Personally, I have no idea if this is some quid-pro-quo deal or not but if it is I hope Mueller's investigation wraps it up before the next Justice is confirmed. I fully expect it to be in line with Trump's nominating the worst possible guy/gal for critical positions. Still, even if there are too many "incidental" coincidences I don't expect anything to come of it. We are looking at a conservative SC for the next 30-40 years imo.[/quote]
Yup and the trumplings will march right along with it as long as it takes down the country the trump cult is happy.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1196116]I saw that too. Personally, I have no idea if this is some quid-pro-quo deal or not but if it is I hope Mueller's investigation wraps it up before the next Justice is confirmed. I fully expect it to be in line with Trump's nominating the worst possible guy/gal for critical positions. Still, even if there are too many "incidental" coincidences I don't expect anything to come of it. We are looking at a conservative SC for the next 30-40 years imo.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Giantone;1196123]Yup and the trumplings will march right along with it as long as it takes down the country the trump cult is happy.[/QUOTE]Ok. I have read that article several times and still cannot make the conspiracy connection that you two seem to see.

If i understand right Kennedy's son would be in a huge position to damage Trump due to his work at DB on Trump's dealings. And clearly if Kennedy's son had knowledge of damaging evidence I think it is reasonable to think he would let his father know not to Trust Trump. If Kennedy was told by his son not to trust Trump, I doubt Kennedy would resign, instead staying on the bench adjudicate any Mueller rulings. I guess maybe you could see him stepping down so he would not have to recuse himself thus opening Mueller rulings subject to a potential 4-4 tie. But retiring and allowing Trump to select his successor seems like a draconian way to avoid that outcome.

G1, progressives and socialists are the ones leading this country down a fate like the old USSR and every other economy that has taken up socialism as their banner.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1196125]Ok. I have read that article several times and still cannot make the conspiracy connection that you two seem to see.

If i understand right Kennedy's son would be in a huge position to damage Trump due to his work at DB on Trump's dealings. And clearly if Kennedy's son had knowledge of damaging evidence I think it is reasonable to think he would let his father know not to Trust Trump. If Kennedy was told by his son not to trust Trump, I doubt Kennedy would resign, instead staying on the bench adjudicate any Mueller rulings. I guess maybe you could see him stepping down so he would not have to recuse himself thus opening Mueller rulings subject to a potential 4-4 tie. But retiring and allowing Trump to select his successor seems like a draconian way to avoid that outcome.

G1, progressives and socialists are the ones leading this country down a fate like the old USSR and every other economy that has taken up socialism as their banner.[/quote]

.........like I said the cult is happy, fuck the country.

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Fairly dismissive comment. Not very useful in a forum about discussions.

But to try a civil response.

I like the general direction of the country under trump. I wish that there was a less abrasive social environment, but in a free speech democracy you should not want or expect group think.
I wish that, rather then each side demonizing and ascribing bad intent to the other, that both sides would look for the rational parts of the other sides positions and work toward a solution that satisfies the substantial majority(70-80%). There are some people on both sides that cant easily be satisfied, and there are some on both sides that should NOT be accomodated, but everyone should have the right to openly discuss their strongly held beliefs. Discussion does not mean physical violence and those on either side who bring violence into civil discourse should be arrested. [QUOTE=Giantone;1196126].........like I said the cult is happy, fuck the country.[/QUOTE]

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1196128]Fairly dismissive comment. Not very useful in a forum about discussions.

But to try a civil response.

I like the general direction of the country under trump. I wish that there was a less abrasive social environment, but in a free speech democracy you should not want or expect group think.
I wish that, rather then each side demonizing and ascribing bad intent to the other, that both sides would look for the rational parts of the other sides positions and work toward a solution that satisfies the substantial majority(70-80%). There are some people on both sides that cant easily be satisfied, and there are some on both sides that should NOT be accomodated, but everyone should have the right to openly discuss their strongly held beliefs. Discussion does not mean physical violence and those on either side who bring violence into civil discourse should be arrested.[/quote]

LOL, civil ? You're the one talking "violence".Trump campaigned on violence and now the right is not taking the credit for what they started,Do we really need to post the trump campaign video's again tell the crowed he would pay they legal bills for beating the crap out of protesters???Or the video's of his hate on the [B]"FREE PRESS" or maybe his hate on Hillary and a GOLD STAR FAMILY?[/B] . You want the left to do what the right won't do and you're
upset becuase they won't ,you're a hypocrite.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1196125]Ok. I have read that article several times and still cannot make the conspiracy connection that you two seem to see.



G1, progressives and socialists are the ones leading this country down a fate like the old USSR and every other economy that has taken up socialism as their banner.[/quote]



Right , not the president/dictator who is single handedly bringing fascism to the United States. I find funny your complaint about the "old USSR" considering who elected trump.I thought the trumplings love putin.

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[quote=Giantone;1196130]Right , not the president/dictator who is single handedly bringing fascism to the United States. I find funny your complaint about the "old USSR" considering who elected trump.I thought the trumplings love putin.[/quote]

Dude your hyperbole is level 10 the last couple thread pages. U can tell Trump had a good week based on G1 rants.



[url]http://thehill.com/homenews/media/395092-maxine-waters-on-criticism-from-pelosi-schumer-leadership-will-do-anything[/url]

Looks like some good ole in-fighting right before the midterms. The unhinged look is never a good one and will be properly used for messaging against the Dems.

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[quote=Chico23231;1196131]Dude your hyperbole is level 10 the last couple thread pages. U can tell Trump had a good week based on G1 rants.



[url]http://thehill.com/homenews/media/395092-maxine-waters-on-criticism-from-pelosi-schumer-leadership-will-do-anything[/url]

Looks like some good ole in-fighting right before the midterms. The unhinged look is never a good one and will be properly used for messaging against the Dems.[/quote]

Sad thing is chico you haven't a clue of what you're talking about and it's sad.To you it's a game ....lets see how we can piss off the Liberals.Strike one ...I am a republican and it kills me that trump is president and it makes you happy,see I know from personnel knowledge of trumps lying and his misdealing you are to young to think anything else but it's media lies becuase trump said so ,you're a lamb being lead to slaughter.

[url]https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2018/04/13/trumps-lies-corrode-democracy/[/url]



[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/05/01/president-trump-has-made-3001-false-or-misleading-claims-so-far/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.8b0e7942f79f[/url]



[url]https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/trumps-history-of-lying-from-john-barron-to-realdonaldtrump[/url]

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[quote=Giantone;1196130]Right , not the president/dictator who is single handedly bringing fascism to the United States. I find funny your complaint about the "old USSR" considering who elected trump.I thought the trumplings love putin.[/quote]

Can you define fascism?

Calling for the rule of law, and abiding by laws enacted by a democratically elected legislature is not fascism.

The old USSR was a strict socialist economic system. That is what I spoke of collapsing, yet you use the left's already tired refrain of Russia Russia Russia (said in Jan Brady's voice). The liberal trumpeting of russian interference is irony at it's best because it was Hillary's failed reset and general incompetence at foreign diplomacy that led Putin to loathe her. There has been conclusion after conclusion by Pres Obama, the intel agency's, etc that while Russia made extraordinary efforts to affect the outcome, in the end they did not. Simply put, basically half this country's electorate hated Hillary as much as the other half hated Trump.

But ultimately, Trump's election will put at least 2 textualists on the SC, and bring a better form of abiding by constitutional law to our country. If that makes you mad, so be it.

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Democrats should have went nuclear over the last SC seat being blocked. I’m sure they thought HC was a lock so they didn’t have to worry too much. The dems deserve this. Just hope RBG can keep holding on.

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Here is a definition of fascism:
[QUOTE]fascism
The only official definition of Fascism comes from Benito Mussolini, the founder of fascism, in which he outlines three principles of a fascist philosophy.
1."Everything in the state". The Government is supreme and the country is all-encompasing, and all within it must conform to the ruling body, often a dictator.
2."Nothing outside the state". The country must grow and the implied goal of any fascist nation is to rule the world, and have every human submit to the government.
3."Nothing against the state". Any type of questioning the government is not to be tolerated. If you do not see things our way, you are wrong. If you do not agree with the government, you cannot be allowed to live and taint the minds of the rest of the good citizens.
The use of militarism was implied only as a means to accomplish one of the three above principles, mainly to keep the people and rest of the world in line. Fascist countries are known for their harmony and lack of internal strife. There are no conflicting parties or elections in fascist countries.[/QUOTE]

If you want to use that term it far more closely aligns with the Democratic party of today. Look at the lockstep of the Democratic party, you can not disagree with it. We must move to , without being ostracized. In the last election cycle the Republicans brought more then 10 competing individuals through the primary. In comparison, HRC attempted with the complicit help of the DNC to subvert the voting process and keep Bernie from having a shot.
It wasn't Trump supporters that rioted to shut down a speaker at that bastion of free speech UCal Berkley - [url]https://www.cnn.com/2017/02/01/us/milo-yiannopoulos-berkeley/index.html[/url]

But feel free to keep on demonizing and using false rationalizations.

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[quote=MTK;1196135]Democrats should have went nuclear over the last SC seat being blocked. I’m sure they thought HC was a lock so they didn’t have to worry too much. The dems deserve this. Just hope RBG can keep holding on.[/quote]

For what it's worth, I think that the Republicans should have let Garland's nomination come to a vote, and honestly even seated him. That said, the Dem's had played their own political games and barring some major shakeout, that's just how the nominations game goes now.

I think RBG should step down for her health. :)

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[quote=MTK;1196135]Democrats should have went nuclear over the last SC seat being blocked. I’m sure they thought HC was a lock so they didn’t have to worry too much. The dems deserve this. Just hope RBG can keep holding on.[/quote]

I'm a fan of RBG....she is as tough as they come.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1196134]Can you define fascism?

Calling for the rule of law, and abiding by laws enacted by a democratically elected legislature is not fascism.

The old USSR was a strict socialist economic system. That is what I spoke of collapsing, yet you use the left's already tired refrain of Russia Russia Russia (said in Jan Brady's voice). The liberal trumpeting of russian interference is irony at it's best because it was Hillary's failed reset and general incompetence at foreign diplomacy that led Putin to loathe her. There has been conclusion after conclusion by Pres Obama, the intel agency's, etc that while Russia made extraordinary efforts to affect the outcome, in the end they did not. Simply put, basically half this country's electorate hated Hillary as much as the other half hated Trump.

But ultimately, Trump's election will put at least 2 textualists on the SC, and bring a better form of abiding by constitutional law to our country. If that makes you mad, so be it.[/quote]


Anyone who is anti- “dude”....fascist

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1196125]Ok. I have read that article several times and still cannot make the conspiracy connection that you two seem to see.

If i understand right Kennedy's son would be in a huge position to damage Trump due to his work at DB on Trump's dealings. And clearly if Kennedy's son had knowledge of damaging evidence I think it is reasonable to think he would let his father know not to Trust Trump. If Kennedy was told by his son not to trust Trump, I doubt Kennedy would resign, instead staying on the bench adjudicate any Mueller rulings. I guess maybe you could see him stepping down so he would not have to recuse himself thus opening Mueller rulings subject to a potential 4-4 tie. But retiring and allowing Trump to select his successor seems like a draconian way to avoid that outcome.

G1, progressives and socialists are the ones leading this country down a fate like the old USSR and every other economy that has taken up socialism as their banner.[/quote]

I have struggled with the connection myself that's why I tried not to claim it as fact. Chico has already come to the conclusion that since some media is reporting on it, it must not be true. But the gist seems to be something about Russian money laundering through the Deutsche Bank (I believe that is something Deutsche has already been found guilty on) combined with the fact that the Deutsche Bank was the only bank willing to lend to Trump. So there's some smoke there but not sure if it's connected or not. Either way I expect nothing to come of it even if there is something there (again not sure if there is or not). I think the SC angle is Trump wants his man in there in case the Mueller investigation comes down to the SC or not. If it's 5-4 Repubs and the 5th guy who replaced Kennedy is a die-hard Trump supporter he doesn't have anything to worry about.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1196136]Here is a definition of fascism:


If you want to use that term it far more closely aligns with the Democratic party of today. Look at the lockstep of the Democratic party, you can not disagree with it. We must move to , without being ostracized. In the last election cycle the Republicans brought more then 10 competing individuals through the primary. In comparison, HRC attempted with the complicit help of the DNC to subvert the voting process and keep Bernie from having a shot.
It wasn't Trump supporters that rioted to shut down a speaker at that bastion of free speech UCal Berkley - [url]https://www.cnn.com/2017/02/01/us/milo-yiannopoulos-berkeley/index.html[/url]

But feel free to keep on demonizing and using false rationalizations.[/quote]

Here current definition:
[url]https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism[/url]

Fascism:
a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.

Synonyms: Nazism, Rightism, White-Nationalism


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