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I'm still taking Penix and getting another guy. If you could get Harrison and Penix. Or one of the tackles and Penix. I'm going that route.

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O-line is fixed. Someone picked Penix before our 2nd round pick.

2. Olumuyiwa Fashanu - OT - Penn State
36. Jordan Morgan - OT - Arizona
40. Cooper Beebe - OG - Kansas State
67. Christian Haynes - OG - UConn
96. Michael Pratt - QB - Tulane
98. Junior Colson - LB - Michigan
132. Drake Nugent - OC - Michigan
163. Jaylin Simpson - CB - Auburn
194. Tatum Bethune - LB - Florida State

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[QUOTE=AnonEmouse;1357341]Who's this Moot guy, and which college does he play at?[/QUOTE]


LOL

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1357349]The Drake Maye vs. Jayden Daniels Debate

[url]https://www.si.com/nfl/2024/01/17/2024-nfl-draft-drake-maye-jayden-daniels-debate-mailbag[/url][/quote]

I'm going to guess that out of these two, plus Caleb, 2 out of the 3 will flame out. We've seen it too many times.

I like that Daniels seems to keep getting better and better and better. From where he was at Az State to where he is now is night and day. He had some massive games against SEC teams.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1357382]I'm going to guess that out of these two, plus Caleb, 2 out of the 3 will flame out. We've seen it too many times.

I like that Daniels seems to keep getting better and better and better. From where he was at Az State to where he is now is night and day. He had some massive games against SEC teams.[/quote]

Yeah, Daniels is the guy I want if we stick at No. 2 and he's available.

Green flags: I've never seen him with painted nails or in his mommy's arms in the stands.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1357385]Yeah, Daniels is the guy I want if we stick at No. 2 and he's available.

Green flags: I've never seen him with painted nails or in his mommy's arms in the stands.[/quote]

I want a fuckin' bad ass alpha man's man that's mentally tough as nails, he's football almost 24-7. I just don't get that vibe from Caleb.

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everyone battling about williams, daniels or maye

just remember the 2018 draft where two stars where draft and they were draft outside of the top, one star was almost the 2nd round

[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft/rounds/_/season/2018[/url]

the MEDIA wants us to love the drama of williams daniels and maye but the real brains say like Peters know who is best or best opportunity to succeeded

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another thing to consider is where this talent ends up, sadly most top prospects ended up on the carousel of NFL habitual dysfunctional teams.

Just think if you came out of plumbers school with all As; teachers loved you did awesome. Your first gig is working at MA & PA Outfitters; they are swamped with jobs don't have enough tools to give you, they don't have a work van for you so you use your bike etc...how successful do you think you will be?

A lot of success that Love and Lamar see is that they were drafted by quality franchises. do they have the same success say IDK, here? Probably not

IMO Sam would have done better at a quality franchise; one that knew who to grow him not throw him to the wolves.

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JD playing against SEC teams, i mean that is real competition

Williams and Maye, i am not saying its a deal breaker but shit if you are playing trash you are going look good

2024 Early Bird Draft Thread
 

[QUOTE=mredskins;1357395]JD playing against SEC teams, i mean that is real competition

Williams and Maye, i am not saying its a deal breaker but shit if you are playing trash you are going look good[/QUOTE]


Atlanta — Desmond Ridder, Cincinnati (American)
Arizona — Kyler Murray%, Oklahoma (Big 12)
Baltimore — Lamar Jackson, Louisville (ACC)
Buffalo — Josh Allen, Wyoming (Mountain West)
Carolina — Bryce Young, Alabama (SEC)
Chicago — Justin Fields, Ohio State (Big Ten)
Cincinnati — Joe Burrow, LSU (SEC)
Cleveland — Deshaun Watson, Clemson (ACC)
Dallas — Dak Prescott, Mississippi State (SEC)
Denver — Russell Wilson, NC State (ACC)
Detroit — Jared Goff, California (Pac-12)
Green Bay — Jordan Love, Utah State (Mountain West)
Houston — CJ Stroud, Ohio State (Big Ten)
Indianapolis — Anthony Richardson, Florida (SEC)
Jacksonville — Trevor Lawrence, Clemson (ACC)
Kansas City — Patrick Mahomes, Texas Tech (Big 12)
Las Vegas — Jimmy Garoppolo, Eastern Illinois (FCS)
LA Chargers — Justin Herbert, Oregon (Pac-12)
LA Rams — Matthew Stafford, Georgia (SEC)
Miami — Tua Tagovailoa, Alabama (SEC)
Minnesota — Kirk Cousins, Michigan State (Big Ten)
New England — Mac Jones, Alabama (SEC)
New Orleans — Derek Carr, Fresno State (Mountain West)
NY Giants — Daniel Jones, Duke (ACC)
NY Jets — Aaron Rodgers%, California (Pac-12)
Philadelphia — Jalen Hurts, Alabama (SEC)
Pittsburgh — Kenny Pickett, Pittsburgh (ACC)
San Francisco — Brock Purdy, Iowa State (Big 12)
Seattle — Geno Smith, West Virginia (Big 12)
Tampa Bay — Baker Mayfield, Oklahoma (Big 12)
Tennessee — Ryan Tannehill, Texas A&M (Big 12)
Washington — Sam Howell, North Carolina (ACC)
% — regular starting QB; currently injured

Some pretty good quarterbacks in the league from the ACC and Pac - 12. I also wouldn’t call any of the power 5 trash. They are the best of the best coming out of highschool. Of the top 10 quarterbacks in the league right now I think maybe 2 are from the SEC.

The NFL folks obviously look at mechanics, speed, intelligence, awareness, arm strength. These kids are 21 years old and getting coached up by professionals if they make it to the big show. It doesn’t matter who they played against in college.

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Good stuff punch it , like I said not deal breakers just a notch for JD

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[QUOTE=mredskins;1357403]Good stuff punch it , like I said not deal breakers just a notch for JD[/QUOTE]


For the record I am leaning towards JD. It is based on draft profile strengths and weaknesses vs Maye and Williams though. Not necessarily his competition. And yes it is a plus column that he played against the SEC. A minor one imo but it doesn’t hurt.

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I will lol so hard if Cousins is re-signed.. Ruhskins will stroke out.

All jokes aside what if we made a run at Kirk, moved back and got Harrison and a tackle in the 1st? Hmmmm....

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3 more months of Drake Maye Vs Caleb talk on Twitter FFS

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1357414]I will lol so hard if Cousins is re-signed.. Ruhskins will stroke out.

All jokes aside what if we made a run at Kirk, moved back and got Harrison and a tackle in the 1st? Hmmmm....[/QUOTE]


That is a recipe for success but short term. 35 coming off a torn achilles. No thank you. Lets build for the future.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1357414]I will lol so hard if Cousins is re-signed.. Ruhskins will stroke out.

All jokes aside what if we made a run at Kirk, moved back and got Harrison and a tackle in the 1st? Hmmmm....[/quote]

I will be cheering for him if he comes back to us.

However, I think Kirk is going to be looking to win now, which he should given his age. I also doubt Adam Peters will give him a fully guaranteed contract, which I'm sure he'll be looking for.

Peters is getting a QB though, I don't think he came here to take chances on any free agent QB.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1357423]I will be cheering for him if he comes back to us.

However, I think Kirk is going to be looking to win now, which he should given his age. I also doubt Adam Peters will give him a fully guaranteed contract, which I'm sure he'll be looking for.

Peters is getting a QB though, I don't think he came here to take chances on any free agent QB.[/quote]

Kirk and Belichick in Atlanta . . . does it work?

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[quote=SkinsGuru;1357430]Kirk and Belichick in Atlanta . . . does it work?[/quote]

Probably, although I don't think they have anywhere near the talent at WR that Kirk has had in Minnesota.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1357432]Probably, although I don't think they have anywhere near the talent at WR that Kirk has had in Minnesota.[/quote]

Some very good WR where they are picking in the draft though.

[Edit] Not that Bill would ever draft a WR in the first or be able to draft a viable one if he did

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2
Jayden Daniels
QB | LSU

36
Patrick Paul
OT | Houston

40
Edgerrin Cooper
LB | Texas A&M

67
Ja'Tavion Sanders
TE | Texas

100
Zak Zinter
IOL | Michigan

102
Max Melton
CB | Rutgers

137
Jalen McMillan
WR | Washington

180
Jawhar Jordan
RB | Louisville

219
Will Reichard
K | Alabama

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[quote=punch it in;1357512]2
Jayden Daniels
QB | LSU

36
Patrick Paul
OT | Houston

40
Edgerrin Cooper
LB | Texas A&M

67
Ja'Tavion Sanders
TE | Texas

100
Zak Zinter
IOL | Michigan

102
Max Melton
CB | Rutgers

137
Jalen McMillan
WR | Washington

180
Jawhar Jordan
RB | Louisville

219
Will Reichard
K | Alabama[/quote]

This is an excellent draft. Melton is one of the under the radar guys I want.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1357515]This is an excellent draft. Melton is one of the under the radar guys I want.[/QUOTE]


[IMG]https://media4.giphy.com/media/gVoBC0SuaHStq/giphy.gif[/IMG]

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2
Caleb Williams
QB | USC

36
Kingsley Suamataia
OT | BYU

40
Chris Braswell
EDGE | Alabama

67
Jeremiah Trotter Jr.
LB | Clemson

100
Max Melton
CB | Rutgers

102
Johnny Wilson
WR | Florida State

137
James Williams
S | Miami (FL)

180
Brandon Coleman
IOL | TCU

219
Frank Gore Jr.
RB | Southern Miss

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If we draft Williams at 2 the sound of me screaming NOOOOOOOOO!!! will be audible on your side of the Atlantic.

:Flush:

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[quote=Ruhskins;1357432]Probably, although I don't think they have anywhere near the talent at WR that Kirk has had in Minnesota.[/quote]

They definitely have skill position talent in Atlanta between Drake London, Pitts, and Bijan Robinson, they just need a coach that can bring out the best in them. Really makes Arthur Smith look bad.

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[QUOTE=davy;1357561]If we draft Williams at 2 the sound of me screaming NOOOOOOOOO!!! will be audible on your side of the Atlantic.

:Flush:[/QUOTE]


I will trust whatever Peters and Co do. If he is there at 2 there is a very real possibility. The only thing that turns me off is his size, but we have seen plenty of taller quarterbacks fail so …,
It is just a refreshing feeling to know Cerrato, Rivera, Snyder, and all the other idiots we have had making decisions are gone.

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[quote=punch it in;1357539]2
Caleb Williams
QB | USC

36
Kingsley Suamataia
OT | BYU

40
Chris Braswell
EDGE | Alabama

67
Jeremiah Trotter Jr.
LB | Clemson

100
Max Melton
CB | Rutgers

102
Johnny Wilson
WR | Florida State

137
James Williams
S | Miami (FL)

180
Brandon Coleman
IOL | TCU

219
Frank Gore Jr.
RB | Southern Miss[/quote]

I'd be happy with this

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What’s so depressing is that this article, if anything, downplayed the level of urgency for each of these positions.

[url]https://commanderswire.usatoday.com/lists/commanders-roster-needs-positions-2024-offseason-rankings/[/url]

To this we’d probably need to add long snapper, kicker, and WR too. It’s astonishing how RR and crew set this roster backwards. When he took over, the roster was better across the board - and in many areas (eg, OL, CB, and LB) significantly so. RR and crew left our cupboard bare. This isn’t going to be a quick turnaround, I’m afraid.


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[QUOTE=punch it in;1357539]2
Caleb Williams
QB | USC

36
Kingsley Suamataia
OT | BYU

40
Chris Braswell
EDGE | Alabama

67
Jeremiah Trotter Jr.
LB | Clemson

100
Max Melton
CB | Rutgers

102
Johnny Wilson
WR | Florida State

137
James Williams
S | Miami (FL)

180
Brandon Coleman
IOL | TCU

219
Frank Gore Jr.
RB | Southern Miss[/QUOTE]


Nepo draft.

JK - I’d be happy with this too, although I think another LB would be useful.


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The more I hear about Maye the less I think I like ... Former long time GM watched a lot of tape and saw him live and compared him to Mac Jones ...

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[quote=rocnrik;1357600]The more I hear about Maye the less I think I like ... Former long time GM watched a lot of tape and saw him live and compared him to Mac Jones ...[/quote]

Randy Mueller said that... in the end it's one person's opinion, others think he could be another Justin Herbert. We'll see.

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[QUOTE=calia;1357596]Nepo draft.

JK - I’d be happy with this too, although I think another LB would be useful.


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Lol. Doesn’t hurt to have legends roaming around during the game.

In alot of my mocks i go two LB’s.

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1357618]Lol. Doesn’t hurt to have legends roaming around during the game.

In alot of my mocks i go two LB’s.[/QUOTE]


Agree - and those dudes are legends. Crazy how close Gore came to being able to play alongside his kid. At that position too. Not like he’s a kicker.


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I've seen a Mock with 3 different QBs taken at 2 lol

QB is 100% going to be the pick per the consensus anyway

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[QUOTE=calia;1357620]Agree - and those dudes are legends. Crazy how close Gore came to being able to play alongside his kid. At that position too. Not like he’s a kicker.


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Tore both his acl’s in college too. Went from “injury prone” to iron man.

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Just finished JD tape. I’m all in. Dynamic athlete, duel threat with a very accurate arm. Arm strength is good enough, it’s not Drake maye level but it’s Caleb level.


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Less than 100 days until Jayden Daniels joins the team. Leggo!

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Is it just me or do the opinions about all the top qb's seem to vary wildly? I'm seeing GM's/etc say they love Caleb Williams while others complain that he doesn't love the game/too soft/etc. Same thing with Drake Maye - the physical attributes are great but being compared to Mac Jones is terrible. Same with jayden Daniels. I can't remember the last time all the top qb's had opinions split like this, or maybe I just have a bad memory.

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[quote=mooby;1357640]Is it just me or do the opinions about all the top qb's seem to vary wildly? I'm seeing GM's/etc say they love Caleb Williams while others complain that he doesn't love the game/too soft/etc. Same thing with Drake Maye - the physical attributes are great but being compared to Mac Jones is terrible. Same with jayden Daniels. I can't remember the last time all the top qb's had opinions split like this, or maybe I just have a bad memory.[/quote]

Its the time of year and there are half a dozen teams who would give their left arm for a shot at one of the top three QBs, so as usual you should believe nothing you hear coming from league sources. There hasn't been such a clear cut group of QBs in some time so normally they would not be being hyped so much before we have even had the Senior Bowl. Often, if at all, it is one guy like a Lawrence or a Burrow. Now there are three guys there are always going to be varying opinions. In the end you just have to trust the GM/HC know what they are doing and believe in their own evaluation process. Hopefully we can do that now.

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There have been a LOT of Total BUST with top QB picks .. I'm not even sure if it's 50/50 . Remember "Someone"thought Lance was the Guy in San Francisco that was a fail .. yea lucky they got Purdy to soften that blow , and to think every team in league passed on Purdy like 7 times before he was chosen last .. that tells me it's all a guessing game just like this coach search ..I actually could see Sam under different system/coaching being as good as some of these can't miss prospects.. you can't throw a rookie to the wolves in this league and expect good results.. One of these Top 3 Qb will fail you can bet on it !