Re: Compensation for Lloyd
 

Bite me PWND - go find a rhubarb or something. I know you're secretly TAFKAS' love-child so I am sure you and he are conspiring to hold my genius down.

Shouldn't you be doing homework?

Re: Compensation for Lloyd
 

Admittedly, I haven't seen a lot of Lloyd. He sounds interesting, but the claims that he is soft, a locker room disturbance, and doesn't take responsibility don't make me very happy. But, since I haven't read the book on him, I'll just assume Gibbs can figure this guy out and determine whether he's worth trading for.

Re: Compensation for Lloyd
 

[QUOTE=Schneed10]The compensation package sounds fair to me, he's definitely not worth a 1st or 2nd rounder IMO. Just hoping we don't overpay in the salary department.[/QUOTE]

John Clayton is saying we're expected to give him a whopping $10 million SB.

Re: Compensation for Lloyd
 

[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha]John Clayton is saying we're expected to give him a whopping $10 million SB.[/QUOTE]

Same as what Koren Robinson got right? With the new CBA rules is a $10 million SB whopping? Honestly I don't know. What did Harrison get, $13.5?

Re: Compensation for Lloyd
 

[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha]Admittedly, I haven't seen a lot of Lloyd. He sounds interesting, but the claims that he is soft, a locker room disturbance, and doesn't take responsibility don't make me very happy. But, since I haven't read the book on him, I'll just assume Gibbs can figure this guy out and determine whether he's worth trading for.[/QUOTE]

That's pretty much my opinion on the situation. I don't know all there is to know about this guy, but I've seen some of the ridiculous catches he's made and that makes me think that there is definitely a spot for him on the team. However, I do have my reservations about his attitude. I'm putting my faith in Gibbs on this one. He'll decide if he's worth taking the chance on and if he can reign him in some. I, personally, think that Gibbs could get him to play within this system, however, Gibbs won't be around forever, so I think that Saunders really needs to sign off on this one as well.

Re: Compensation for Lloyd
 

[QUOTE=TAFKAS]Same as what Koren Robinson got right? With the new CBA rules is a $10 million SB whopping? Honestly I don't know. What did Harrison get, $13.5?[/QUOTE]

I have no clue whether the $10 million is "whopping" (as I put it earlier). But, at least under the old CBA $10 million is big, big money. I don't know the details of K. Robinson's or Harrison's contracts. I know that Reggie Wayne got about $13 million.

Maybe they see a lot in Lloyd. Maybe Lloyd will be the next Santana Moss. It just seems like a lot of dough.

Re: Compensation for Lloyd
 

[QUOTE=jdlea]I'd agree with that. I know the Skins need to add some depth, but there aren't a whole lot of players who will be available in those rounds who will have the same type of impact that Brandon Lloyd would have in his first season with us. Also, he's still a young player, but I thought he had some character issues.[/QUOTE]

he obviously does if the 49ers are so willing to part with him and he was secretly working on trades.

Re: Compensation for Lloyd
 

[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha]John Clayton is saying we're expected to give him a whopping $10 million SB.[/QUOTE]

how long is the deal? whether thats a lot on not really depends on contract length.

Re: Compensation for Lloyd
 

I'm not really thrilled with our picks in FA so far. R'el is quality (i was just worried about price). I don't like AA (expense and can't cover), and i'm worried about lloyd (he has talent, but high cost to get him, possible character issues, etc). I don't know jack about andre so i'll assume GW thinks he's the answer we need.

I'm surprised we didn't make a play on a DT or true DE yet. I guess they figure on drafting them. if we give up our 3rd then we probably need to get a CB or trade into the 4th, draft OL late, and sign a TE.

Re: Compensation for Lloyd
 

Per NFL network [b][i][url="http://www.nfl.com/writers/schefter"]Adam Schefter[/url]

[/i][/b]Washington and San Francisco are nearing a deal that would send a 2006 third-round pick and a 2007 fourth-round selection to the 49ers for wide receiver [url="http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/396021"]Brandon Lloyd[/url]. Pending a physical, the deal should be completed before the end of the weekend.

Re: Compensation for Lloyd
 

2 draft picks for Lloyd seems a bit much. I think 1 would be plenty. I mean he hasn't done all that much in san fran to recieve 2 draft picks regardless if they are low picks or not.

Re: Compensation for Lloyd
 

[QUOTE=That Guy]I'm not really thrilled with our picks in FA so far...I'm surprised we didn't make a play on a DT or true DE yet. I guess they figure on drafting them. if we give up our 3rd then we probably need to get a CB or trade into the 4th, draft OL late, and sign a TE.[/QUOTE]Andre Carter is a legit DE. I know he is listed as an OLB as of late and that's because he was playing in the 3-4. This could also be the reason his stats fell off after making the pro bowl earlier in his career playing in the 4-3. Think Kenard Lang but, drafted in the first round. Kenard absolutely sucked as OLB in the 3-4. And his Madden '06 attributes showed.

Re: Compensation for Lloyd
 

[QUOTE=That Guy]he obviously does if the 49ers are so willing to part with him and he was secretly working on trades.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, he does, but to be completely honest, I think I would have "character issues" if I played for the sorry no account Niners, too. I mean, come on, they barely looked like they were trying to win last year. I'd be pretty pissed too. I know that there are plenty of guys who just shut up and play, I'm not saying it's okay to be a prick, but I think a change of scenery may be the answer for Lloyd. Plus, I have faith that Gibbs could rein this kid in.

Re: Compensation for Lloyd
 

[b]Redskins | Nearing deal for Lloyd[/b]
Sat, 11 Mar 2006 13:15:23 -0800

Adam Schefter, of the <A href="http://www.kffl.com/team/77/nfl">[color=#0000ff]NFL[/color] Network, reports the [url="http://www.kffl.com/team/37/nfl"][color=#0000ff]Washington Redskins[/color][/url] and [url="http://www.kffl.com/team/32/nfl"][color=#0000ff]San Francisco 49ers[/color][/url] are nearing a deal that would have the [url="http://www.kffl.com/team/37/nfl"][color=#0000ff]Redskins[/color][/url] sending a 2006 third-round pick and a 2007 fourth-round selection to the [url="http://www.kffl.com/team/32/nfl"][color=#0000ff]49ers[/color][/url] for WR [url="http://www.kffl.com/player/5908/nfl"][color=#0000ff]Brandon Lloyd[/color][/url]. Pending a physical, the deal should be completed before the end of the weekend.

Re: Compensation for Lloyd
 

I knew Synder was going to pull the unexpected. Hell while we were looking at Howard and Givens Synder was looking at Carter and Lloyd.