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saden1 11-24-2006 05:07 PM

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[QUOTE=chris36;250267]I got sick when the announcers said that the Cowboy's were built to last, because they were built through the draft. I started realizing the the Redskins need a complete overhaul. We need to revamp our defensive and offensive lines. We also need to better our linebackers, except for Washington. I am also tired of hearing about continuity, we only have two new starters on defense and two on offense. You cant ask for more continuity than that. The worst part about it all the Redskins don't have the cap room, to improve through free agency and at this point they should not try to. That may mean biting the bullet next year and sucking again.[/QUOTE]

Tell us how you feel about the Bears.

dall-assblows 11-24-2006 05:10 PM

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[quote=hurrykaine;250268]Barring a miracle in this year's offseason, I see us sucking for the next 2-3 years given the state of our roster with aging players on the decline.

Perhaps Jansen and Thomas poor play is an abberation this year and they'll pick it up next year. Maybe Jansen has to have his thumbs in a cast to play well. On defense, the line needs to be overhauled completely.[/quote]

i don't agree. just last year we were in th playoffs. i still think we are good. i just think that they expected it to be handed to us this year.

saden1 11-24-2006 05:17 PM

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[QUOTE=5RINGS;250303]Wow.

That is old time Redskin-Cowboys hate!!!![/QUOTE]

Let's not prop the Cowboys up to a championship capable team. Plus they have to win 3 more games before they even get a shot at winning the big one. With the G-Men, Saints, and ATL remaining I wouldn't even think about the playoffs.

Is what I said hate?

5RINGS 11-24-2006 05:22 PM

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[QUOTE=saden1;250310]Let's not prop the Cowboys up to a championship capable team. Plus they have to win 3 more games before they even get a shot at winning the big one. With the G-Men, Saints, and ATL remaining I wouldn't even think about the playoffs.

Is what I said hate?[/QUOTE]

No not at all. i was referring to 70 Chip.

But what does this season do to the recent method of the Redskins i.e. Free Agency building.

I started a thread earlier this year about Draft vs FA and the records were similar (Dal and Wash).

It is absolutely possible that the Redskins make a few adjustments get Portis back healthy, add Depth on Defence and win the division next year.

70Chip 11-24-2006 05:52 PM

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[quote=5RINGS;250312]No not at all. i was referring to 70 Chip.

[/quote]


And rightfully so. These Cowboy posts have awakened something in me that had grown dormant. I was so busy hating Donovan and the Giants-friendly media that I had forgotten what being a Redskins fan was all about-hating the Cowboys. It didn't help that Parcells' press conferences are so enjoyable to watch. Or the fact that Bledsoe was basically harmless. Or that the Cowboys fans seemed rather ambivelent about their own team. But, the facts on the ground have changed. Romo is a clear and present danger. The Cowboys fans (mostly) are about one win away from becoming utterly distasteful. So, it's time to start hatin' again.

mheisig 11-24-2006 05:54 PM

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[QUOTE=chris36;250267]I got sick when the announcers said that the Cowboy's were built to last, because they were built through the draft. I started realizing the the Redskins need a complete overhaul. We need to revamp our defensive and offensive lines. We also need to better our linebackers, except for Washington. I am also tired of hearing about continuity, we only have two new starters on defense and two on offense. You cant ask for more continuity than that. The worst part about it all the Redskins don't have the cap room, to improve through free agency and at this point they should not try to. That may mean biting the bullet next year and sucking again.[/QUOTE]

We should start by remedying the coaching and organizational clusterfuck that is the Washington Redskins.

I'm all for building through the draft and supplementing with some good FA signings. But it's all for naught when the overall scheme and structure is flawed.

4mrusmc 11-24-2006 08:05 PM

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To hell with the cowboys, they can all eat a dick!

dmek25 11-24-2006 08:16 PM

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so this is the flavor if the day? when ever someone has success in the NFL, everyone else tries to copy it. i think the free agent route can work, as long as you have a good talent evaluator. in the redskins case, they do not

GREENSTHEMAN 11-24-2006 08:26 PM

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[quote=sandtrapjack;250270]Agreed. Cannot fault Snyder for his intentions, he has always tried to put the best product on the field for this team.

But the Redskin fans deserve better than what has been put out there.

Unfortunately, the draft will be hard on Washington too as the front office has been squandering high round draft picks for players.[/quote]

I really wish that Vinnie Cerrato was shown the door, and get a real GM get into the front office. I am surprised that with all the additions that have been done to the coaching staff, that Joe Gibbs has not expanded the front office staff and scouting dept.

The people who evaluate the talent for the team, and lets players like Pierce, Clark, Harris, Bailey,Smoot etc. is ridiculous. What has bothered me is the way the Skin's front office has disrespected players during negotiations, that players want to leave the team at all costs.

Pocket$ $traight 11-24-2006 08:41 PM

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The Cowboys still have a shitty O-line and that will be exposed soon enough.

The NFL makes me sick sometimes. The boys win a couple of games and all of a sudden the doomsday defense is back.

Let me know when Parcells wins a playoff game with them.

budw38 11-24-2006 10:32 PM

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I don't think this post was about the cowgirls , more about how important the draft is . The truth is , this team has made very bad choices . We sent two 2nd rd picks for a backup lb , that is way to steep . We also gave two picks for Loyd , again he is not worth one 3rd rd pick .I think JC show a lot of ability , but two firsts a second and a 4th ? If you think building a team like this is the better way , I hope it is , but I can't see this team winning if they have another year of giving huge bonuses to avg. talent . We took SF top wr , and top DE , and they lost their best pass rusher to seattle , they have used the draft and they are looking better . If this team had lost its best wr , de and lb ,, were would we be ? The bears colts Patriots and most of the better teams win by using the draft , I hope we start using it too . If Synder does not hire a GM , he is going to keep giving us the same teams that he has . We are doing exactly what the raiders did a few years ago , it may work for one year ,,, but most of us want to have a chance to win every year. All three teams in our division have better back up DE's than our starters , thats just the truth .

Longtimefan 11-24-2006 10:57 PM

Re: Cowboys Boys Built Through Draft
 
[QUOTE=budw38;250395]I don't think this post was about the cowgirls , more about how important the draft is . The truth is , this team has made very bad choices . We sent two 2nd rd picks for a backup lb , that is way to steep . We also gave two picks for Loyd , again he is not worth one 3rd rd pick .I think JC show a lot of ability , but two firsts a second and a 4th ? If you think building a team like this is the better way , I hope it is , but I can't see this team winning if they have another year of giving huge bonuses to avg. talent . We took SF top wr , and top DE , and they lost their best pass rusher to seattle , they have used the draft and they are looking better . If this team had lost its best wr , de and lb ,, were would we be ? The bears colts Patriots and most of the better teams win by using the draft , I hope we start using it too . If Synder does not hire a GM , he is going to keep giving us the same teams that he has . We are doing exactly what the raiders did a few years ago , it may work for one year ,,, but most of us want to have a chance to win every year. All three teams in our division have better back up DE's than our starters , thats just the truth .[/QUOTE]



Jason Campbell was a swap of first round picks. We didn't give up two first's for him.

djnemo65 11-24-2006 11:51 PM

Re: Cowboys Boys Built Through Draft
 
[QUOTE=70Chip;250320]And rightfully so. These Cowboy posts have awakened something in me that had grown dormant. I was so busy hating Donovan and the Giants-friendly media that I had forgotten what being a Redskins fan was all about-hating the Cowboys. It didn't help that Parcells' press conferences are so enjoyable to watch. Or the fact that Bledsoe was basically harmless. Or that the Cowboys fans seemed rather ambivelent about their own team. But, the facts on the ground have changed. Romo is a clear and present danger. The Cowboys fans (mostly) are about one win away from becoming utterly distasteful. So, it's time to start hatin' again.[/QUOTE]


You said it perfectly buddy, I feel the same way. The Ice Cube of football, the team you love to hate.

djnemo65 11-24-2006 11:53 PM

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I dont really get to watch ESPN much over here, I just mostly watch the games. Is the media all on the Cowboys jockstraps' all of a sudden? If so, I think that's a bit premature.

Jason72 11-25-2006 12:33 AM

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The Cowboys aren't that good. The media has been dying all year to anoint them. They will be exposed soon enough.


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