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wilsowilso 01-08-2007 03:45 PM

Re: Calvin Johnson entering NFL draft
 
[quote=Paintrain;268277]If he's there at #6, I can't think of a more perfect trade partner than the Falcons. They need a WR who can catch, some good PR after this past year and anyone who ever lived in GA knows they love their local college players. Trading down to #10 and pick up a 3rd round pick would be perfect.[/quote]

You can get more than a third round pick by trading from 6 to 10. Detroit got a second round pick a few years ago going back only one pick from like #7 to #8. If we trade back we need a second rounder. Maybe to #12 or #13.

wilsowilso 01-08-2007 03:47 PM

Re: Calvin Johnson entering NFL draft
 
That huge DT Alan Branch declared today. It's on espn. We might be able to use him and he is predicted to be there.

skinsfan69 01-08-2007 03:57 PM

Re: Calvin Johnson entering NFL draft
 
[quote=Paintrain;268277]If he's there at #6, I can't think of a more perfect trade partner than the Falcons. They need a WR who can catch, some good PR after this past year and anyone who ever lived in GA knows they love their local college players. Trading down to #10 and pick up a 3rd round pick would be perfect.[/quote]

Trade partner???? If he's there we need to draft him. Plain and simple.

SmootSmack 01-08-2007 04:03 PM

Re: Calvin Johnson entering NFL draft
 
[QUOTE=skinsfan69;268370]Trade partner???? If he's there we need to draft him. Plain and simple.[/QUOTE]

Really? You think we should take Calvin Johnson in place of our other, arguably more pressing, needs?

Beemnseven 01-08-2007 05:20 PM

Re: Calvin Johnson entering NFL draft
 
Wouldn't Tampa Bay or Cleveland take Johnson? The Bucs haven't had a solid wideout in eons.

SmootSmack 01-08-2007 05:33 PM

Re: Calvin Johnson entering NFL draft
 
[QUOTE=Beemnseven;268427]Wouldn't Tampa Bay or Cleveland take Johnson? The Bucs haven't had a solid wideout in eons.[/QUOTE]

I can't see the Browns going after a WR. And supposedly the Bucs want to find a replacement for Simeon Rice. So they might target Gaines Adams

skinsfan69 01-08-2007 06:46 PM

Re: Calvin Johnson entering NFL draft
 
[quote=TAFKAS;268374]Really? You think we should take Calvin Johnson in place of our other, arguably more pressing, needs?[/quote]

I would draft him in a heartbeat if he is sitting there. Best player on the board hands down. I watch a lot of college and this guy is a can't miss. Plus he's not an asshole like TO. He comes from a good family and keeps his mouth shut. CJ is a TD machine. He's a difference maker in the red zone and we need to score more points. Because of his size and speed he will cause all kinds of problems for the defense. Can you imagine the PI's he would draw? I know our defense sucks but you can't pass on a guy like this. But he'll be long gone by the 6th pick.

FRPLG 01-08-2007 07:44 PM

Re: Calvin Johnson entering NFL draft
 
[QUOTE=skinsfan69;268447]I would draft him in a heartbeat if he is sitting there. Best player on the board hands down. I watch a lot of college and this guy is a can't miss. Plus he's not an asshole like TO. He comes from a good family and keeps his mouth shut. CJ is a TD machine. He's a difference maker in the red zone and we need to score more points. Because of his size and speed he will cause all kinds of problems for the defense. Can you imagine the PI's he would draw? I know our defense sucks but you can't pass on a guy like this. But he'll be long gone by the 6th pick.[/QUOTE]

:banghead: Jesus. The last thing our team needs is a WR. Another weapon for our offense to use so we can score 40 a game to keep up with our shitty ass defense? A WR is a retarded idea. Next.

I can't see Tampa or Cincy taking him. They seem to be more prudent drafters and like taking the more sure things like linemen and so forth. Falcons seem like a solid idea.

skinsfan69 01-08-2007 11:32 PM

Re: Calvin Johnson entering NFL draft
 
[quote=FRPLG;268451]:banghead: Jesus. The last thing our team needs is a WR. Another weapon for our offense to use so we can score 40 a game to keep up with our shitty ass defense? A WR is a retarded idea. Next.

I can't see Tampa or Cincy taking him. They seem to be more prudent drafters and like taking the more sure things like linemen and so forth. Falcons seem like a solid idea.[/quote]

All I'm saying is if he's at the 6th pick he would be the best player on the board. Yes we have alot of wr's but the real question is are they any good? Outside of Moss are any of them threats in the red zone? No. None of them are. LLoyd only runs one or two routes and does not go over the middle. And ARE is only a 3rd WR who has never caught over 50 balls in one season. People talk about how bad the defense is. And it is bad. But if you have the chance to take someone who has Hall of Fame ability you simply can't pass on him.

FRPLG 01-08-2007 11:35 PM

Re: Calvin Johnson entering NFL draft
 
HOF ability? Wow.

FRPLG 01-08-2007 11:38 PM

Re: Calvin Johnson entering NFL draft
 
So if he is available at 6 what were the other 5 teams thinking when they passed on him. Bunch of idiots I guess.

I'd say you are potentially WAY over-valuing him. WRs are bust magnets and even the best of them usually have adjustment periods.

We can pass and I could almost guarnatee that we will if given the opportunity.

skinsfan69 01-08-2007 11:58 PM

Re: Calvin Johnson entering NFL draft
 
[quote=FRPLG;268501]So if he is available at 6 what were the other 5 teams thinking when they passed on him. Bunch of idiots I guess.

I'd say you are potentially WAY over-valuing him. WRs are bust magnets and even the best of them usually have adjustment periods.

We can pass and I could almost guarnatee that we will if given the opportunity.[/quote]

I could be. But he honestly looks like TO and R. Moss combined. The guy is 6'4 or 6'5 and runs like a 4-4 and has awesome hands. I saw him play several times because I'm a MD. grad so I tend to watch alot of ACC. What I saw was a can't miss. But you are correct. WR's tend to take a year or two to get adjusted to the pro game. But if he turns out to be a stud and we pass on him I'm going to just shake my head. Texans just look foolish right now with M. Williams and his one or two sacks.

djnemo65 01-09-2007 02:19 AM

Re: Calvin Johnson entering NFL draft
 
[QUOTE=TAFKAS;268302]I really like that idea. But I've heard, in all seriousness, that the Lions (yes, the Lions) are really interested in drafting CJ.[/QUOTE]

You are kidding....Maybe Matt Millen is sick of his job, and is just trying to get back at all those fans who staged walkouts.

SmootSmack 01-09-2007 02:26 AM

Re: Calvin Johnson entering NFL draft
 
[QUOTE=djnemo65;268523]You are kidding....Maybe Matt Millen is sick of his job, and is just trying to get back at all those fans who staged walkouts.[/QUOTE]

Well part of it could be a smokescreen. He could be trying to get someone to move up there to take Johnson and then get the Lions more picks. It's early though so you hear all sorts of rumors

djnemo65 01-09-2007 02:28 AM

Re: Calvin Johnson entering NFL draft
 
[QUOTE=TAFKAS;268525]Well part of it could be a smokescreen. He could be trying to get someone to move up there to take Johnson and then get the Lions more picks. It's early though so you hear all sorts of rumors[/QUOTE]

Wouldn't that be the ultimate though, if he chose his fourth top 10 receiver in 5 years, just to kind of say F-U to the world and the city of Detroit? Then he lit a bunch of motown records on fire and drove off in a Toyota? I would gain a little respect for him if he did that.


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