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JDALY27 01-16-2007 12:01 PM

Re: Drafting a safety.
 
[quote=Mattyk72;270339]He lost his starting job this year so he could be cut.[/quote]

Ryan Clark isn't the answer either. Who was saying a word about him last year? Everyone wants to say he was awesome b/c the washingtonpost claims he was Taylor's only friend on the team. This is the NFL, if Taylor's play is impacted dramtically by having a friend on the team we're in trouble. Clark is a back up at best. We don't need to bring him back at all.

You know why Taylor had a sub-par year for his standards? NO SACKS UP FRONT!!!!! How many times did you see him chasing a running back who wasa not touched by a D lineman or LB????

We don't need to draft a safety, we're fine at that position.

JDALY27 01-16-2007 12:11 PM

Re: Drafting a safety.
 
[quote=gabe1984;270342]AA will be starting for the Skins next year?[/quote]

Yes! His Cap # is too large to part ways with him. The Defense as a whole had one of the worst years in Redskins history. AA will be back in the starting lineup next year. 100% guaranteed.

MTK 01-16-2007 12:18 PM

Re: Drafting a safety.
 
[quote=JDALY27;270345]Yes! His Cap # is too large to part ways with him. The Defense as a whole had one of the worst years in Redskins history. AA will be back in the starting lineup next year. 100% guaranteed.[/quote]

Sorry but you're dead wrong. If he's cut after June 1 we would save about $600k this year with approx. $7M hitting us in dead cap next year.

It can be done very easily.

JDALY27 01-16-2007 12:24 PM

Re: Drafting a safety.
 
[quote=Mattyk72;270348]Sorry but you're dead wrong. If he's cut after June 1 it would be a minimal hit this year with approx. $7M hitting us in dead cap next year.

It can be done very easily.[/quote]

I'm wrong!!???

What's the better option:

1) Maximizing AA for what the entire coaching staff saw as a major talent for our secondary. Wiping the slate clean and figuring out how best to utilize his talents with Taylor. AA could be a great force for our team next year.

or

2) Cutting him after June 1st. Left with another void to fill with another FREE AGENT. Eating 7million in dead cap the following year.

The decision looks like an easy one if you're a Redskins Defensive Coach.

redsk1 01-16-2007 12:26 PM

Re: Drafting a safety.
 
I like Ryan Clark, but i don't think that he is neccessarily the answer. If he is cut, sure go for it, what can it hurt?

I'm more for drafting a cb, d-lineman, depending what we do w/ SS.

MTK 01-16-2007 12:29 PM

Re: Drafting a safety.
 
[quote=JDALY27;270351]I'm wrong!!???

What's the better option:

1) Maximizing AA for what the entire coaching staff saw as a major talent for our secondary. Wiping the slate clean and figuring out how best to utilize his talents with Taylor. AA could be a great force for our team next year.

or

2) Cutting him after June 1st. Left with another void to fill with another FREE AGENT. Eating 7million in dead cap the following year.

The decision looks like an easy one if you're a Redskins Defensive Coach.[/quote]

Yes, you are wrong. You said his cap # was too large to cut him and that's what I responded to. It's not too large to cut him as I and many others have outlined many times before on this subject.

JDALY27 01-16-2007 12:34 PM

Re: Drafting a safety.
 
[quote=Mattyk72;270355]Yes, you are wrong. You said his cap # was too large to cut him and that's what I responded to. It's not too large to cut him as I and many others have outlined many times before on this subject.[/quote]

7 million in dead cap the following year is too large to handle. You only do that when the player is so bad or such a problem its not worth seeing his face another year.

Is AA at that point in your opinion?

Do you not see a scenario where he bounces back and starts?

I can!

12thMan 01-16-2007 12:49 PM

Re: Drafting a safety.
 
[quote=JDALY27;270357]7 million in dead cap the following year is too large to handle. You only do that when the player is so bad or such a problem its not worth seeing his face another year.

Is AA at that point in your opinion?

Do you not see a scenario where he bounces back and starts?

I can![/quote]

Vinny C., is that you?

JDALY27 01-16-2007 12:53 PM

Re: Drafting a safety.
 
[quote=12thMan;270359]Vinny C., is that you?[/quote]


Hahahaha, totally!

12thMan 01-16-2007 12:56 PM

Re: Drafting a safety.
 
[quote=JDALY27;270360]Hahahaha, totally![/quote]

I mean seriously, you are definitely in the minority on this one:)

But, hey, if the guy comes back, then we'll have to live with it I guess. It just seems like the damage is irrepairable at this point.

Bill B 01-16-2007 01:10 PM

Re: Drafting a safety.
 
[quote=12thMan;270363]I mean seriously, you are definitely in the minority on this one:)

But, hey, if the guy comes back, then we'll have to live with it I guess. It just seems like the damage is irrepairable at this point.[/quote]


I heard on sportstalk 980 a beat writer from St. Louis (the week before the St. Louis game this year) who was talking about Adam and he could not believe why anyone would gave him the money the Skins did. The beat writer was actually a Skins fan and from the DC area.

The beat writer basically stated that Adam had some serious back injuries (this is the one of the reasons St. Louis did not retain him) and that he is not the same player he was from his days in St. Louis and that his chances of recovering from these back injuries are basically none. If you talk to any doctor concerning a bad back - they never fully heal and for an athelte it is their worst nightmare.

So basically the beat writer says Adam is done as a player - the same guy you saw that got beat in coverage will be the same guy you see next year due to the back injury. Archuleta is basically done at this point as an effective player due to his bad back.

freddyg12 01-16-2007 01:12 PM

Re: Drafting a safety.
 
It sounded like he had a good exit interview w/the coaches & AA said good things about Gibbs. His teamates also said he handled himself well. Those are the positives, but his play & the potential that he was the mole in the Friend article are big negatives.
I think we should hope that he does stay, that somehow he recovers fully from his neck/back injury of a couple years ago. Some injuries do take players a couple of seasons to get back from, e.g. Trotter's knee injury when he was here. Maybe AA hasn't fully gotten back to his best form. He does move very stiffly, like someone w/a back injury.
I'm hoping he can regain his form, but it might not matter if the relationship w/the coaches has soured that much.

GhettoDogAllStars 01-16-2007 01:25 PM

Re: Drafting a safety.
 
[QUOTE=freddyg12;270367]I'm hoping he can regain his form, but it might not matter if the relationship w/the coaches has soured that much.[/QUOTE]

I think that's the biggest reason AA will not be back next year: the coaches don't want him. Who cares about the cap hit? If the coaches don't like him, then he'll probably be gone -- big cap hit or not.

jamf 01-16-2007 01:47 PM

Re: Drafting a safety.
 
[QUOTE=12thMan;270363]I mean seriously, you are definitely in the minority on this one:)

But, hey, if the guy comes back, then we'll have to live with it I guess. It just seems like the damage is irrepairable at this point.[/QUOTE]

I agree with Jdaly. I don't think he is going anywere :(.

MTK 01-16-2007 01:57 PM

Re: Drafting a safety.
 
[quote=JDALY27;270357]7 million in dead cap the following year is too large to handle. You only do that when the player is so bad or such a problem its not worth seeing his face another year.

Is AA at that point in your opinion?

Do you not see a scenario where he bounces back and starts?

I can![/quote]

It's not too large to handle... they've handled bigger hits in the past so why are you so insistent that they can't handle it this time??

I don't see him bouncing back and starting at all. It just seems as if too many bridges have been burned and it would be best for both sides to cut their ties and start fresh.


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