[QUOTE=illdefined]but then it wouldn't be 'clever'. just true.

i think a more relevant bumper sticker for bush/cheney would be:

"OOP$. Sorry About Your Son"[/QUOTE]

If I saw a car with that sticker, or something of that nature, on it, that car's getting keyed a couple times.

thats the point. its not a laughing matter. just read the 900th G.I. died over there.

It's 1000 lives lost in Iraq.
If this was WWII the number would be over 140,000 lives
If it was Korea it would be 15,000 lives
If it was Viet Nam it would be 11,000 lives
If it was the first Gulf War it would be 1,500 lives.

peace
mike

does that make it ok then? especially under the false circumstances?

It's amazing to me that no WMD have been found and the evidence all points to the fact that we went to war over false information yet Bush just blows it off and says oh well. He even seems bothered when he's challenged on the issue. What ever happened to accountability? We're sending our soldiers to their death and for what? Because we considered Saddam to be a 'threat'? That's fine but we should have checked, double checked and triple checked our info and actually found some hard evidence before we marched off to war and had the gov't approve billions of dollars for the effort... which our children's children will be paying for. Another thing that's always bothered me is how we can have people starving, homeless and without quality educations yet we can never 'find' enough $$ for that, but once there's a war all of a sudden billions of dollars become available, but that's a topic for another day.

So what's stopping us from invading other countries we consider to be a threat to our national interests? Oh that's right nothing, we're the US, the world bullies errrrrr world police.

[QUOTE=Sammy Baugh Fan]It's 1000 lives lost in Iraq.
If this was WWII the number would be over 140,000 lives
If it was Korea it would be 15,000 lives
If it was Viet Nam it would be 11,000 lives
If it was the first Gulf War it would be 1,500 lives.[/QUOTE]

but between this and a picture of a gun to a candiate's head,
this is how you sign your posts.


[QUOTE=Sammy Baugh Fan]
peace
mike[/QUOTE]

:confused-

lol

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]It's amazing to me that no WMD have been found and the evidence all points to the fact that we went to war over false information yet Bush just blows it off and says oh well. He even seems bothered when he's challenged on the issue. What ever happened to accountability? We're sending our soldiers to their death and for what? Because we considered Saddam to be a 'threat'? That's fine but we should have checked, double checked and triple checked our info and actually found some hard evidence before we marched off to war and had the gov't approve billions of dollars for the effort... which our children's children will be paying for. Another thing that's always bothered me is how we can have people starving, homeless and without quality educations yet we can never 'find' enough $$ for that, but once there's a war all of a sudden billions of dollars become available, but that's a topic for another day.

So what's stopping us from invading other countries we consider to be a threat to our national interests? Oh that's right nothing, we're the US, the world bullies errrrrr world police.[/QUOTE]

I agree with everything you say Matty. My question is: Whatever happened to the hunt for Ossama Bin Laden?

[QUOTE=illdefined]but between this and a picture of a gun to a candiate's head,
this is how you sign your posts.




:confused-[/QUOTE]

I am honest when I say I wish you peace. I wish the world peace but as an non-active duty Marine I understand that tough things have to be done in this world and tough people do it. As for the Kerry picture if you can't see that was posted in absolute humor then it's you sir that has an issue and yes you are confused.

Have a great day folks and....you guessed it

peace
mike

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]lol

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Dewd, you didn't have to make this personal. I never argue with other people about their opinions I just state mine. As I said before no one here is going to argue another person into changing their mind so way waste the time.

The elections are in November....just go vote and let that do your talking.


peace
mike

[QUOTE=Redskins_P]I agree with everything you say Matty. My question is: Whatever happened to the hunt for Ossama Bin Laden?[/QUOTE]
Well, the US ties to the Saudi family is probably a good place to start, more specifically the well documented Bush-Bin Laden family ties. Add in the fact that Bush was just dying for a reason to get revenge for his daddy and there you go, Saddam is public enemy #1.

I'm tired and don't feel like another long debate, but i'll just say I disagree, and some people here really need to learn how to take a joke.

[QUOTE=Sammy Baugh Fan]Dewd, you didn't have to make this personal. I never argue with other people about their opinions I just state mine. As I said before no one here is going to argue another person into changing their mind so way waste the time.

The elections are in November....just go vote and let that do your talking.


peace
mike[/QUOTE]
ah c'mon man I was just kidding around

:D

[QUOTE=Sammy Baugh Fan]I am honest when I say I wish you peace. I wish the world peace but as an non-active duty Marine I understand that tough things have to be done in this world and tough people do it. As for the Kerry picture if you can't see that was posted in absolute humor then it's you sir that has an issue and yes you are confused.[/QUOTE]

and Bush is tough? doesnt it surprise you that out of all this 'tough' administration, the only REAL soldier, Colin Powell, was against it? in the end he followed orders, just like the soldiers who died in this costly, needless war. you tell me why this 'needed' to be done, or is being 'tough' its own reason?

you know whats a CONFIRMED weapon of mass destruction? airplanes. we'd have Bin Laden by now (he also has a beard, but is NOT Saddam Hussein) if we put half the resources we put into Iraq into Afghanistan. instead Bush gave Bin Laden thousands more recruits worldwide by showing off just how 'tough' he is. and for what? what uniform has this 'tough guy' ever really worn? go ahead say that silly flight suit...

im certainly confused about your 'peace' signature, why you don't expect Bees to come from the nest you deliberately stur, and most of all why you think this election can be looked at with 'absolute humor'. its the most serious election in my lifetime. yes i have issues. i live in downtown manhattan, and the last thing this president makes me feel is SAFER.

ok I did at least respect you enogh to read that but I'll still be voting of Bush in Nov.

But, you're not alone in supporting Kerry.
[url]http://www.nagshead.net/2004election/kerrysupporter.jpg[/url]

lol
Have a great day guys.

peace and yes I mean peace
mike