Re: Portis apparently is not a dog lover
 

Look, who gives a shit if ther are dog fighting rings. There are human fighting rings too. Most people refer to it as boxing. But, there are many other hand to hand sports that go to the death that are not illegal. Who is it to say that it is wright or wrong. Iyou stop dog fighting, then you have to stop boxing. Are we not more important than the animals?

Alot of people would rebute that animals being raised and trained to fight is inhumane What about the peolpe that were brought up on fighting? Is that humane? The point that I am trying to put across is that you cannot say that it is ok for a person to compete in a fight while it is not ok for any other animal. If they want to criminalize dog fighting, then human fighting should be just as illegal.

I do not like boxing or any other martial art, nor am I an animal lover. I just believe that what is fair, is fair across the board.

Re: Portis apparently is not a dog lover
 

[quote=dmek25;311394]think Vick will feel Godell's wrath?[/quote]


maybe but portis also said on ballers on bet last night that we would be in the nfc championship game at least

Re: Portis apparently is not a dog lover
 

If you want to compare humans to animals, SSG. Isn't that whole "It's X's property" the same type of bullshit people used to defend slavery? He can kill him, that's his slave.

It's ridiculous to say that this should be equated to boxing. First of all, boxers at any time can say stop, they get paid a ton of money, and have the best doctors in the world able to help them out. It's also a conscious decision to fight. These dogs are being forced to fight and often both end up dying in hideous conditions. If they find out that Vick has been a part of this (rumors of dog fighting and Vick go back to his days at Tech at least) he should be [b]banned[/b] from the NFL.

Re: Portis apparently is not a dog lover
 

[QUOTE=angryssg;311425]Look, who gives a shit if ther are dog fighting rings. There are human fighting rings too. Most people refer to it as boxing. But, there are many other hand to hand sports that go to the death that are not illegal. Who is it to say that it is wright or wrong. Iyou stop dog fighting, then you have to stop boxing. Are we not more important than the animals?

Alot of people would rebute that animals being raised and trained to fight is inhumane What about the peolpe that were brought up on fighting? Is that humane? The point that I am trying to put across is that you cannot say that it is ok for a person to compete in a fight while it is not ok for any other animal. If they want to criminalize dog fighting, then human fighting should be just as illegal.

I do not like boxing or any other martial art, nor am I an animal lover. I just believe that what is fair, is fair across the board.[/QUOTE]

Humans choose to pursue careers in fighting, dogs do not. Also, what to the death hand sports are you referring to that are legal? Do you live in a mountain temple in Asia?

The suggestion that criminalizing dog fighting should necessitate doing the same for human fighting is beyond insipid.

Re: Portis apparently is not a dog lover
 

oh oh dont like where this is going

Re: Portis apparently is not a dog lover
 

Portis sounds like a moron in that article,Im glad O.J. wasnt a friend of his
Reporter: what do you think about O.J. ?
Portis: I'm from Laurel, Mississippi. I know a lot of back roads that got the bitches stabbed if you want to go see it."

and i dont buy the argument if you grew up with it you might think its ok,I grew up with a rascist father and I knew from an early age that it wasnt right to hate someone because of their skin color,you either know right from wrong or you dont care if its right or wrong

Re: Portis apparently is not a dog lover
 

[quote=djnemo65;311436]Humans choose to pursue careers in fighting, dogs do not. Also, what to the death hand sports are you referring to that are legal? Do you live in a mountain temple in Asia?

The suggestion that criminalizing dog fighting should necessitate doing the same for human fighting is beyond insipid.[/quote]

Look MF, It is all the same. If what you believe about evolution is true then the doggs can also decide for themselves what is right and what is wrong. They are going to bre human one day anyway right?

Re: Portis apparently is not a dog lover
 

[QUOTE=angryssg;311442]Look MF, It is all the same. If what you believe about evolution is true then the doggs can also decide for themselves what is right and what is wrong. They are going to bre human one day anyway right?[/QUOTE]

You know, you are right. Dogs will one day become human, and so breeding them and using them for fighting really isn't that big a deal at all.

Re: Portis apparently is not a dog lover
 

[quote=djnemo65;311444]You know, you are right. Dogs will one day become human, and so breeding them and using them for fighting really isn't that big a deal at all.[/quote]

OK, then stop bitching about it!

Re: Portis apparently is not a dog lover
 

I wonder how much thought Portis put into his response about the issue, had he thoughtfully considered the reaction his remarks were going to create, maybe he would think to reconsider. By me being an avid dog lover, I consider his remarks offensive, as well as insensitive to an aged old love affair between man and dog.

Tom Lantos, D-Calif. chairman of the congressional friends of animals caucus wrote a letter to Roger Goodell urging strong action in the event it's founded Vick is in anyway (knowingly) involved in such hideous behavior.Regardless of whether you like dogs or not, there is no place in a civilized society for this type activity.

Re: Portis apparently is not a dog lover
 

[QUOTE=angryssg;311446]OK, then stop bitching about it![/QUOTE]

Possibly the most intelligent response, given at anytime, ever.

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Re: Portis apparently is not a dog lover
 

[quote=angryssg;311425]Look, who gives a shit if ther are dog fighting rings. There are human fighting rings too. Most people refer to it as boxing. But, there are many other hand to hand sports that go to the death that are not illegal. Who is it to say that it is wright or wrong. Iyou stop dog fighting, then you have to stop boxing. Are we not more important than the animals?

Alot of people would rebute that animals being raised and trained to fight is inhumane What about the peolpe that were brought up on fighting? Is that humane? The point that I am trying to put across is that you cannot say that it is ok for a person to compete in a fight while it is not ok for any other animal. If they want to criminalize dog fighting, then human fighting should be just as illegal.

I do not like boxing or any other martial art, nor am I an animal lover. I just believe that what is fair, is fair across the board.[/quote]

As far as the Congressman sending a letter to Roger Goodell? If he was really that serious about swift justice, he could get to the heart of this matter really easy. Get on a plane, travel to the areas of the states where dog fighting is most prevalent, and help bring these thugs to justice. Don't wait for a high profile individual to be accused so that you can make your media splash.

Re: Portis apparently is not a dog lover
 

[QUOTE=12thMan;311475]As far as the Congressman sending a letter to Roger Goodell? If he was really that serious about swift justice, he could get to the heart of this matter really easy. Get on a plane, travel to the areas of the states where dog fighting is most prevalent, and help bring these thugs to justice. Don't wait for a high profile individual to be accused so that you can make your media splash.[/QUOTE]


It is our intent to find out just how serious he is, and believe me he does not have to get on a plane to travel to Montgomery County, Md. where we had serious problems of this very nature just a short while ago. Once the legal authorities become involved (local or otherwise) where illegal activity is aledged involving NFL players, it becomes the responsibility of all those concerned to get to the bottom of the problem.

I do not believe it was the intention of anyone here to demonize Clinton Portis, I do however believe that his remarks were of a sensitive nature, and one could very easily gather from his remarks the perception he did not find Vick's association in any way reprehensible.

Re: Portis apparently is not a dog lover
 

[quote=angryssg;311442]Look MF, It is all the same. If what you believe about evolution is true then the doggs can also decide for themselves what is right and what is wrong. They are going to bre human one day anyway right?[/quote]
Yes , maybe Vicks lawyers should use that defence ,,,, the dogs made him come to the fights ,,, the dogs set the fights up and charged $$$$ ,,, they can think ,,, they can speak and leap tall buildings !!!These are educated pitbulls they can read and write and even have Va drivers licence's ! Maybe the dogs have degrees they're super dogs !!!!!