Re: Virginia Laws: Stiff Fines added July 1st
 

This will hammer the poor folks. Poor folks are the ones struggling to keep their car up and are the ones who will bear the brunt of these fines.

I still don't believe this can really hold up in court. Politicians pass stuff all the time that don't fly. This has to be one.

I'm suprised it's me a Republican screaming and not some of you left wing ACLU card carrying members flipping out about the poor folks. lol

Where's the love man?!?!??!!

Re: Virginia Laws: Stiff Fines added July 1st
 

Use your turn signals, don't cut across parking lots, and you'll be fine. I honestly don't see what the big deal is, unless you're a bad driver who doesn't follow the rules of the road and use common sense.

Re: Virginia Laws: Stiff Fines added July 1st
 

[quote=Hail2theskins;321926]I received a wreckless driving for failing to use my turn signals 4 years ago. All i did was change lanes to get into the turn lane and bam ticketed me, at the time i was still under 18 so i ended up having to go to court and all that jazz, it was ridiculous. Some of the driving laws in VA are insane. You know what else really gets me, this is to raise funds to improve the roads right? how much improvement do you think northern virginia is really gonna see... practically none, all the fat cats down in richmond will make sure those roads are real nice around richmond while the rest of us in Nova, which pays the overwhelming majority of taxes in VA suffer through the worst traffic in the country and the VA govt does nothing about it.[/quote]
In Va. its not reckless driving for failing to use a turn sig. If you went to court the judge should have throwing it out as its minor violation of not using a turn sig.

Re: Virginia Laws: Stiff Fines added July 1st
 

I think the parking lot fine is for someone who cut across a parking lot to avoid waiting for a light. Like at a corner 7/11.

Re: Virginia Laws: Stiff Fines added July 1st
 

I agree the fines are high, but the $1000 penalty only usually attaches in cases where the violator is a felon or the action in question leads is the proximate cause of someone's death (you cross a parking lot illegally and run over granny). In most cases they are $300 or $350 fines, which are still high, but not nearly as nasty as $1000.

I haven't read the law, but hopefully it includes channeling provisions for the revenue created so that a good portion has to come north to fund the projects we desperately need. As painful as a fine like this is, I prefer it to an across the board tax increase.

Re: Virginia Laws: Stiff Fines added July 1st
 

[quote=firstdown;321932]In Va. its not reckless driving for failing to use a turn sig. If you went to court the judge should have throwing it out as its minor violation of not using a turn sig.[/quote]

Actually, I think it is considered reckless driving but only as a way of categorizing the offense. Reckless driving has a pretty broad defintion.

Re: Virginia Laws: Stiff Fines added July 1st
 

ok, but read and you see that $300 or $350 is an annual fee. So it's $1,050 for a traffic ticket on top of the ticket.

Re: Virginia Laws: Stiff Fines added July 1st
 

Yea these Civil fines are gonna be fine in my book, maybe some of these fools out here will lose there PRIVLEDGE TO DRIVE.

AND PUT THE HAMMER ON THE DRUNKS....NO PROBLEM!

Re: Virginia Laws: Stiff Fines added July 1st
 

Well, I'm a good driver who has not had a ticket in 20 years I bet but I still see this as an unfair House Bill.

Re: Virginia Laws: Stiff Fines added July 1st
 

[quote=skinsfan_nn;321937]Yea these Civil fines are gonna be fine in my book, maybe some of these fools out here will lose there PRIVLEDGE TO DRIVE.

AND PUT THE HAMMER ON THE DRUNKS....NO PROBLEM![/quote]

That's how I see it. Not affecting just the poor but the insanely stupid. I see it as a good way to get some of these kids licenses away that demonstrate daily that they have no business driving while my wife and child are on the same roads. Can't pay the fine? Oh well, looks like your parents will.

Hmm...now may be a good time to become a defense lawyer specializing in traffic offenses.

Re: Virginia Laws: Stiff Fines added July 1st
 

[quote=724Skinsfan;321935]Actually, I think it is considered reckless driving but only as a way of categorizing the offense. Reckless driving has a pretty broad defintion.[/quote]
It may have been the way he changed lanes which was the issue and not just that he didn't use his turn signal.

Re: Virginia Laws: Stiff Fines added July 1st
 

[quote=724Skinsfan;321940]That's how I see it. Not affecting just the poor but the insanely stupid. I see it as a good way to get some of these kids licenses away that demonstrate daily that they have no business driving while my wife and child are on the same roads. Can't pay the fine? Oh well, looks like your parents will.

Hmm...now may be a good time to become a defense lawyer specializing in traffic offenses.[/quote]
The problem is that the law does not address people with bad driving records. Like I said earlier I'm in the insurance business and see driving records so bad and cannot believe they have a valid lic. An example of stuff I see on one persons lic within a three year period. 3speeding, 2 driving on suspended lic, 2 or 3 at fault accidents, and these people will still have valid lic. Thats what Va. should have addressed or at least hit people with these fines who are repeat offenders.

Re: Virginia Laws: Stiff Fines added July 1st
 

[quote=Sammy Baugh Fan;321929]This will hammer the poor folks. Poor folks are the ones struggling to keep their car up and are the ones who will bear the brunt of these fines.

I still don't believe this can really hold up in court. Politicians pass stuff all the time that don't fly. This has to be one.

I'm suprised it's me a Republican screaming and not some of you left wing ACLU card carrying members flipping out about the poor folks. lol

Where's the love man?!?!??!![/quote]
So if your poor its ok to drive a dangerous car on the roads and to top it off speed and drive bad?

Re: Virginia Laws: Stiff Fines added July 1st
 

[QUOTE=firstdown;321956]So if your poor its ok to drive a dangerous car on the roads and to top it off speed and drive bad?[/QUOTE]

You never heard me say that or can quote me so don't try and put words in my mouth.
These fines are wrong for everyone. My point could be taken to say the cops won't be sitting at the luxury mall paking lots but at Walmarts and strip malls where more folks of lower income tend to be.

The fact is you will be punished TWICE. You pay the regular Ticket fine and for 3 more years you mail them additional fine money just to raise tax money THEY WASTE LIKE IT'S FREE Money already. Spend what you are jacking me in the arse with properly and you won't need more money.

Sorry for screaming
peace

Re: Virginia Laws: Stiff Fines added July 1st
 

[quote=724Skinsfan;321935]Actually, I think it is considered reckless driving but only as a way of categorizing the offense. Reckless driving has a pretty broad defintion.[/quote]
My aunt got reckless driving for backing up into a car in a parking lot. It wasn't a normal parking lot (not rows and rows of parking). I guess it is a U shaped parking lot with the open space in the U being pretty big. So she is on the sides and backed out and hit a car that was coming into the parking lot. She backed up like 15 feet so they called it reckless driving.