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[quote=Redskin Rich;333291]Matty...

Can we put a 6 month ban on the term "vet minimum??? I mean every time some over the hill, broke down, almost was is released, everyone wants to sign him for "vet (or league) minimum"[/quote]I agree. Theres no such thing as a guy who shouldn't be signed for the vet min. Doesn't exist. So saying that you'd give the vet min to a guy is a complete lack of analysis.

Should we give Simeon Rice a fair market value contract? We have 7 mil to spare and I'd be looking at bringing in a guy for a one year solution. But to let Carter continue his development, we should be looking at a guy to come in and back him up. I don't think 7 million for one year is nearly enough to have Simeon Rice accept a backup role.

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We have a decent amount of cap space don't we?

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[quote=Redskin Rich;333291]Matty...

Can we put a 6 month ban on the term "vet minimum??? I mean every time some over the hill, broke down, almost was is released, everyone wants to sign him for "vet (or league) minimum"[/quote]

No! not a vet min moratorium!
We'd be like the Danny in 2000, all threads would say yeah, let's sign this guy, e.g. Rice, he's a former pro-bowler & he ate us alive a few years ago. We should pay him at least a 10mil bonus!

I don't know what I think of this, rice is kind of a self-absorbed ass & might not be too team oriented at this point of his career. Dude wants to get paid so he can keep getting manicures.

Though I loved Bruce Smith, who's a fellow Hokie, he came here to get paid & get his record. Rice would be much the same.
Of course if we sign him (vet min. of course) & he gets 5 sacks or so & good pressure, I'll get used to him.

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This guy will probably get a 4-6 Millon a year on a 3 year deal.

He's being cut cause he would cost the bucs 10mil on their cap.
I dont think the Skins will go there.

If the skins can get him for under 2.5 mil/year I say do it.....but....that just aint gunna happen folks.

Talk about presure...this guy is good...better than anyone we've got.
I know he's old...but when he's on....watch out.
I do like the guy.

Y'all tell me if I'm smoking crack

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he needs to be signed. He would a great replacement for daniels. Daniels is over the hill as well but is no where near rice in terms of talent. This would be a great upgrade here.

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[quote=skinsnut;333302]This guy will probably get a 4-6 Millon a year on a 3 year deal.

He's being cut cause he would cost the bucs 10mil on their cap.
I dont think the Skins will go there.

If the skins can get him for under 2.5 mil/year I say do it.....but....that just aint gunna happen folks.

Talk about presure...this guy is good...better than anyone we've got.
I know he's old...but when he's on....watch out.
I do like the guy.

[B][I]Y'all tell me if I'm smoking crack[/I][/B][/quote]

I can't see you so how would I know?

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I gotta correct myself here...
He aint gunna get no 4-6 mil/year....he actually failed his physical cause of his bad shoulder....

Max he gets is 3 ....if someone want to take a chance....
I still say we give him a shot at 2 mil.. assuming the physical was rigged to get him off the roster.

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[quote=skinsnut;333308]I gotta correct myself here...
He aint gunna get no 4-6 mil/year....he actually failed his physical cause of his bad shoulder....

Max he gets is 3 ....if someone want to take a chance....
I still say we give him a shot at 2 mil.. assuming the physical was rigged to get him off the roster.[/quote]

Skins Nut, welcome, one minute questioning your own crack habit & the next filling us in on Rice's shoulder - good work!
I was wondering why they would wait till now to cut him, didn't seem to make much sense. He had a bad year last year too. It's sounding more & more like he's not worth signing.

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we cant stop the run, and you guys want to pick up a guy who can only rush the passer? please call me when you wake up

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[quote=dmek25;333315]we cant stop the run, and you guys want to pick up a guy who can only rush the passer? please call me when you wake up[/quote]

We can't rush the passer either.

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[quote=Mattyk72;333317]We can't rush the passer either.[/quote]


good point

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[QUOTE=dmek25;333315]we cant stop the run, and you guys want to pick up a guy who can only rush the passer? please call me when you wake up[/QUOTE]

Well, we cant rush the passer either....I would like a line that can do at least one of the two jobs they are supposed to do!

Heck, a linebackers job is to tackle first....maybe we should use them for that! Using a LB as a pass rusher is only pointing out that we do not have a pass rushing line worth a crap.....I say we sign him if he passes a physical.
He's probably better that anyone we have now!.....while injured!

(ok, maybe Andre Carter is as good as a 33 year old injured Simeon Rice, but its close)

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[QUOTE=freddyg12;333312]Skins Nut, welcome, one minute questioning your own crack habit & the next filling us in on Rice's shoulder - good work!
I was wondering why they would wait till now to cut him, didn't seem to make much sense. He had a bad year last year too. It's sounding more & more like he's not worth signing.[/QUOTE]

Heya Freddie....WHAZZUP!
Thanks for the welcome...

I think they waited out his release so they could get Gaines Adams under contract first.....if they cut Rice first that would have given the Rookie serious leverage with his contract.....and a potential hold out.
Just my opinion though...

PS....crack is bad for you

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Fuggadaboutittt!!!!!!! If Rice is refusing to take a paycut to stay with TB, do you think he is going to sign for league minimum? Only way this was going to happen was if Rice wanted to leave TB in the first place, but he hasn't made waves and showed up to camp without any fuss. He will retire or a team with more cap space might pick him up. Would love the Skins to be in the mix, but he probably will be more $ than we are willing/can spend.

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[quote=Mattyk72;333317]We can't rush the passer either.[/quote]

Perfect timing.