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irish 10-15-2007 09:42 AM

Re: Public enemy #1 for the Skins this year has been...
 
[QUOTE=dgack;364547]I wish "dropped passes" were changed to "Overall inconsistency / unreliability of the receiving corps"...[/QUOTE]

Does inconsistency and unreliability have anything to do with coaching? I think it does.

EARTHQUAKE2689 10-15-2007 09:45 AM

Re: Public enemy #1 for the Skins this year has been...
 
I would say it has been consistent execution. We always seem to play extremely well in the first half and then lose all mojo in the second.

Monkeydad 10-15-2007 09:53 AM

Re: Public enemy #1 for the Skins this year has been...
 
Drops, easily.

Southpaw 10-15-2007 09:55 AM

Re: Public enemy #1 for the Skins this year has been...
 
Going forward, I think it's going to be the offensive line, since that has a direct impact on the running game, and Campbell's ability to make multiples reads.

Yesterday, it was the drops...

12thMan 10-15-2007 09:55 AM

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I think the playcalling has improved the last two weeks. The drop passes have been, in my opinion, the one direct contributor to our 2 losses. There's no disputing that.

However, the clock management is where I cast my vote. I don't care how the clock is managed for 3 1/2 quarters, it's those last 2-5 minutes of the game that matter the most. This is one of the few times over the course of a game when the game is actually in the coaches hands.

It's been a reoccuring theme since Gibbs has returned, and I'm not sure what the problem is to be honest. But it doesn't help our confidence as a team when the game is on the line.

I think we "tense up" when the game is close and when it's in the coaches hands. Look, wide receivers and running backs are going to have off days - days when things just aren't clicking. But the coaches have to be on their on Ps and Qs when the game is tight. We seem so reactionary on the sidelines. It doesn't seem like we're thinking two or three plays at a time during the two minute drill.

Sean Taylor 10-15-2007 09:57 AM

Re: Public enemy #1 for the Skins this year has been...
 
Unfortunately (or fortunately) I was flying home from Jamaica mon!! Missed the packers game. It was such torcher sitting in Jimmy Buffets Margaritaville in Montigo Bay watching the scores ticker while the cowboys were getting smacked. Then 17-14 game up and Campbell 21-37 with 220 and a td and pick. No running attack again. I didn't see the game but heard that Moss dropped a really easy pass in that game. Would have been a field goal if not more. I saw his fumble and it looked like he needed to wait for blockers and he had something on that reverse. His head hasn't been in any game this year and we need him to snap out of it. Moss lost that game with his fumble and dropped passes.

Our defense looks unreal and that's good for the long haul. We need to figure out the running game against a much improved but very beatable Cardinals team. We play so much better at home and NEED to win this game.

The Zimmermans 10-15-2007 10:09 AM

Re: Public enemy #1 for the Skins this year has been...
 
we have a good qb and a great defense.....that should be enough....we just need everyone else to stop crapping the bed

skinsfanthru&thru 10-15-2007 10:30 AM

Re: Public enemy #1 for the Skins this year has been...
 
I went with injuries to the offensive line because that has been the big factor in in our deflated running game. You definitely wouldn't know it by their stats so far that the Skins have two 1,000 yard rushers sharing the load out of the backfield. I mean so far the only rb who's been consistent with running the ball has been our damn fullback. I know it's still a ways away but u can bet that the o-line is what gets the most attention in the offseason and draft. A very close second would be the dropped passes because as others have posted that also counts dropped ints for me.

The Zimmermans 10-15-2007 10:42 AM

Re: Public enemy #1 for the Skins this year has been...
 
yeah, a pic 6 from taylor would have really set the tone, and we could have run them outta the building....but he made up for it later

TheMalcolmConnection 10-15-2007 10:47 AM

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4-2 will make us all feel a lot better. We just need Rabach healthy badly...

SouperMeister 10-15-2007 10:49 AM

Re: Public enemy #1 for the Skins this year has been...
 
I say the O-line is the biggest factor, because that has affected the running attack all season. As for drops, I'm stunned at how many balls Moss has dropped this season. In his first two seasons here, drops were few and far between. Now they have become a trend. I have faith that Moss will be his old self, and hopefully this will be a wake up call.

TheMalcolmConnection 10-15-2007 10:50 AM

Re: Public enemy #1 for the Skins this year has been...
 
To answer the topic though, I'm going with something not listed...luck.

The breaks just don't go our way when it matters. So far EVERY GAME this year, there's a big play that's just straight up un-lucky.

skinsnut 10-15-2007 12:58 PM

Re: Public enemy #1 for the Skins this year has been...
 
Bottom line
Our O-line is the most important part of our offense.
It sucks that everyone is hurt

The Zimmermans 10-15-2007 01:22 PM

Re: Public enemy #1 for the Skins this year has been...
 
[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;364612]To answer the topic though, I'm going with something not listed...luck.

The breaks just don't go our way when it matters. So far EVERY GAME this year, there's a big play that's just straight up un-lucky.[/quote]

That's always been our problem....we blame luck...instead of making our own luck....Ravens D doesnt need luck because they are constantly ball hawking.....and always finish out plays...instead of putting their heads down after a play MEANWHILE THERE IS AN F***ING LIVE FUMBLE

Paintrain 10-15-2007 01:28 PM

Re: Public enemy #1 for the Skins this year has been...
 
[QUOTE=SmootSmack;364532]Playcalling has been fine, but I'm sure that will probably get the most votes

Clock management has been superb in several cases, particularly the way we handled the clock in the Lions and Eagles game (save for the end of the first half against Philly)

Offensive Line (under Bugel's guidance) has been our unsung hero up until yesterday. Can't say enough about what Pete Kendall has done for this team

So...I'll go with dropped passes. And, to me, dropped passes includes dropped interceptions[/QUOTE]

I don't know if I've ever disagreed more with one part of a post and agreed so strongly on another.

I think with the exception of the Detroit game, the offensive playcalling has been basic, unimaginative and too conservative. Now coming off of the fumbled reverse that cost us the game I know that I'm not operating from a position of strength. With OL problems, I'd expect more quick passes to get our WR the ball with their feet moving, spreading the field a little more-not with more WR but more imagination in route combinations (the INT was an indirect result of Moss & ARE running the same route within 5 yards of each other, WTF kind of design is that?), our complete lack of a screen game and utilization of our personnel.. Watching other teams, even bad ones, it's clear our offense is stuck in 1991. The Dolphins, Titans, Texans among other teams have sub-standard offensive personnel yet are much more imaginative and aggressive offensively than we are. I don't compare us to the Pats, Colts or Bolts from an offensive standpoint because they are elitely talented but we've got to get with the times. We've got better personnel than any of Saunders KC teams yet seem to be stuck in neutral 80% of the time.

I disagree with you on clock management, but a lot of that falls under the playcalling topic IMO.. Trying to bleed the clock the entire 2nd half (Giants game, no downfield passes until too late, swing passes and runs off tackle aren't going to get it done) with a 14 point lead is pathetic.

I agree with you on the OL & dropped passes, especially on defense.. We should have hung 30 on GB if Taylor makes those plays, inexcusable to miss all of those. Smoot should have ended the Miami game with a pick.. For all of Danny's $$$ he can't invest in a Juggs machine!?!?! We're on pace for another below average turnover output this year despite the defensive heroics and that's the difference between 7 wins and 10 wins. Getting the ball back with a short field or taking it to the house yourself has a huge impact on your team as a whole.


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