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I'm just saying we might (and I'm completely speculating here) see some more elements of it seeing as to how Campbell was most successful playing under that system.

Four years ago, I would have easily said Fassel (of course that was before any of us had any idea about Gibbs). Now I'm not as sure. I think he's a very underrated head coach and has done some really good things as a coordinator, but a.) I really hope he's not a stopgap measure until Snyder gets the guy he wants (Cowher in 2009) and b.) well there is no b, just something about it doesn't feel quite right.

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[quote=SmootSmack;410411]I'm just saying we might (and I'm completely speculating here) see some more elements of it seeing as to how Campbell was most successful playing under that system.

Four years ago, I would have easily said Fassel (of course that was before any of us had any idea about Gibbs). Now I'm not as sure. I think he's a very underrated head coach and has done some really good things as a coordinator, but a.) I really hope he's not a stopgap measure until Snyder gets the guy he wants (Cowher in 2009) and b.) well there is no b, just something about it doesn't feel quite right.[/quote]

I have that same feeling...I really didn't want Mora, and I would have been mad. I think with Fassel I get more of a sick feeling, like we're trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. I almost get the idea that Snyder is overthinking this...like I said in another thread, he'll get a free pass if he hires Williams and fails. If he goes and picks someone outside the organization and we go something like 5-11 or 6-10...people will not be as forgiving

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Fassel is too conservative. I thought he ran a boring system in New York and in Baltimore. He had sucess w/ the Giants but that was ages ago.

Leave it all alone and bring Al Saunders back. Why is that so hard for Snyder to see and do.

3 years under the same scheme with two very good QBs and a healthy offensive line with Portis and our guys we make a title run.

He's going to fuck this up!

Sorry just my opinion......

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Fassel is the kind of guy who is great as a head coach, but terrible as a coordinator!

I don't actually believe that, but I thought I'd mention it before someone else did.

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If you want a little over 50 coach okay
Dan Reeves is better than that I believe

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I am starting to think part of the reason Gibbs stepped down when he did is because he was sure Williams would be hired immediately, and that he wouldn't have done it, if he knew all this nonsense was going to take place

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It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me to keep Gregg Williams in the interest of continuity and then change the offensive side of the ball. I just don't understand why Williams would change offenses.

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[QUOTE=AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace;410429]I am starting to think part of the reason Gibbs stepped down when he did is because he was sure Williams would be hired immediately, and that he wouldn't have done it, if he knew all this nonsense was going to take place[/QUOTE]

You and Joe are tight! :)

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[quote=QBall;410432]You and Joe are tight! :)[/quote]

who told you?!?!?!?

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[QUOTE=AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace;410434]who told you?!?!?!?[/QUOTE]

Joe was out for the new NASCAR season to be with his family and work with his son. Saw Sean die and takes nothing for granted time wise. Couldn't wait any longer. I'm mad and upset he left but I have to respect that. Takes a few weeks but now I'm over it...........but Snyder is really dragging this out.

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[quote=QBall;410436]Joe was out for the new NASCAR season to be with his family and work with his son. Saw Sean die and takes nothing for granted time wise. Couldn't wait any longer. I'm mad and upset he left but I have to respect that. Takes a few weeks but now I'm over it...........but Snyder is really dragging this out.[/quote]


that's not what he told me...haha...no, you're right, I just wonder how much he thought things were in place, and if he know there may be a shake up if he would have left so quickly

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Fassel is okay with me if he can coexist with Grilliams.

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fassel would be fine with me as a OC , for god sake he actually made kery collins a super bowl quarterback. he always did pretty well with the giants. got a good eye for talent as well. i believe he drafted shockey......i remember a few years ago before gibbs came back he was a candidate for the head coach position then

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Fassel's Record:

Fassel began his career with Assistant coaching stints with Utah State Univ. and Stanford Univ. Working with John Elway at Stanford. Also HC at Utah State. Long record of Offensive success, tutored Phil Sims and John Elway. Assistant with AZ, DEN, NYG, and Oakland. During Fassel's time as HC at NYG, his teams were known for numerous post-season runs in December, and for winning big games, such as the previously unbeaten Den. in 1998. 1997 NFL coach of the year, he resurected the career of K. Collins, and received acclaim for his "playoff guarantee" during the 2000 season, in which he led the NYG to an improbable SB appearance.

However, his legacy as HC is mixed, Fassel's Giants were known for their disapointments against inferior teams during the regular season, as well as in the POs. The most notable loss was a shocking 39-38 loss to the 49ers in the '02 postseason, in which they blew a 38-14 third Quarter lead. During the '03 season, injuries decimated the NYG, and he was fired amidst some controversy.

Before the 2003 season, Fassel, and his wife Kitty, were reunited with their son, John Mathieson, who they had given up for addoption in 1969. The couple was unmarried when he was born.

Critics of Fassel have pointed out his lack of success in two seasons with the B-More Ravens. The Ravens had been near the bottom of the league in offense for both the '04 & '05 seasons.

On Oct. 17, 2006, it was announced that Fassel was fired from his Ravens OC post.

In '04, and '05, Jim & Kitty Fassel owned a Quizno's restaurant in Denville NJ, their son Brian was in charge of day-to-day operations. The store was sold in April '05, but still remains open.

While coaching the NYG, Fassel and his wife resided in Ho-Ho-Kus NJ.

Fassel current serves as as color coordinator on NFL Westwood One broadcasts.

1997- 10-5-1 1'st in NFCE. Lost to Vikes in 1'st rd. POs

1998- 8-8 3'rd in NFCE

1999- 7-9, 3'rd in NFCE

2000- 12-4, 1'st in NFCE, Lost to B-More in SB

2001- 7-9, 3'rd in NFCE

2002- 10-6, 2'nd in NFCE, Lost to SF in Wild Card 1'st round

2003- 4-14, 4'th in NFCE,

Total: 58-53 as a HC


Meanwhile, GW went 17-31 in Buffalo.


The above extracted from "Rumors" thread in HailRedskins.com.

Re: Fassel meets with Redskins over coaching vacancies
 

[QUOTE=jdlea;410430]It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me to keep Gregg Williams in the interest of continuity and then change the offensive side of the ball. I just don't understand why Williams would change offenses.[/QUOTE]

Well he's a grown man with his own opinions. And maybe, in his opinion, "continuity" isn't going to help. Maybe, he wants to put his own imprint and philosophy on how he would like to run the team if he's head coach and not just follow the same pattern as his predecessor.