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HOGTIMUS PRIME 02-14-2008 04:21 PM

Re: Where Do We Need Help on The Offensive Line?
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72;422255]We've got enough money as it is tied up amongst the OL starters. I really don't see where we would have much wiggle room to bring in another high priced starter only to move someone like Kendall to the bench. The best bet is to continue grooming guys like Heyer and Alexander and add some cheap veteran depth where we can.[/QUOTE]

And there is the result of over spending, with the exception of Samuels I believe the whole line could be over hauled, perhaps with 2 bull guards Rabach might have the support he needs on both sides to step his game up, I have no confidence in any one at right tackle, Heyer looks like a career backup, and I don't expect much from Jansen any longer, so lets go with 2 guards and a right tackle.

Just say no to ocho, and yes to offensive line help!

JoeRedskin 02-14-2008 04:26 PM

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The guy who I am intrigued by, and who could be had a reasonable price for a young player -not cheap but not Dockery money either - is Andrews in Cinci. He's a young tackle and his brother the Philly pro-bowl guard. He's been behind both Willie Anderson and I've read a couple reports that the guy has a big upside. B/c he hasn't started he won't get big big money. But he hasn't started b/c he's been behind a couple of stud tackles. We would have to outbid Cinci but they have a lot of other concerns too.

Bill B 02-14-2008 05:32 PM

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How about draft a guard with a late round pick. I like Eric Young of Tennessee and he is projected to fall to these rounds. A lot of people have Young in the top 5 among offensive guards in the upcoming draft.


[url=http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profile.php?pyid=17501]Eric Young, OG, Tennessee - 2008 NFL Draft Scout Profile, Powered by The SportsXchange[/url]

Dirtbag59 02-14-2008 06:14 PM

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What I wouldn't mind seeing in the first or second round is seeing the Redskins draft a RT type that can play Guard while Jansen is still a Redskin.

jdlea 02-14-2008 06:20 PM

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I think the Skins need a guy who is a C/G combo type. Someone who can play either, but is a little better at one or the other. I'm sick of guys going down every single season and having to go to old backups who are barely holding onto NFL jobs. A couple mid to late round guards or a G and a C and I'll be happy. I like the depth at T right now, myself. I think Heyer will get better and Wade is serviceable.

SmootSmack 02-14-2008 07:14 PM

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[QUOTE=JoeRedskin;422271]The guy who I am intrigued by, and who could be had a reasonable price for a young player -not cheap but not Dockery money either - is Andrews in Cinci. He's a young tackle and his brother the Philly pro-bowl guard. He's been behind both Willie Anderson and I've read a couple reports that the guy has a big upside. B/c he hasn't started he won't get big big money. But he hasn't started b/c he's been behind a couple of stud tackles. We would have to outbid Cinci but they have a lot of other concerns too.[/QUOTE]

Good thought. He might get franchised though

JoeRedskin 02-14-2008 07:25 PM

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Not sure if they would franchise him. He's gotten good buzz, but is that enough to pay him a top five salary?

EARTHQUAKE2689 02-14-2008 09:52 PM

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i say LG and a backup C first then depth for Jansen and Samuels

GTripp0012 02-14-2008 09:55 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;422199]So I think we all agree that we need to bolster our offensive line, primarily the depth on the line.

But where exactly do we need help? Better said, if we had to choose what's our priority? Is it at the Center position? Guard? Tackle?

I'm inclined to think Guard (Scheuning or the dude from USC in the 3rd round?). But interested to get everyone else's take.[/quote]We need help at Guard and at Center. We will eventually need Tackle help when Heyer takes Jansen's spot, but until then Heyer provides excellent depth.

Ruhskins 02-14-2008 10:03 PM

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Come on people, don't knock my boy Heyer. He held is own for a few games (Go Terps!). I think the O Line needs depth, but I think the bigger deal was to keep Bugel in the coaching staff. He'll shape up Heyer and Alexander.

JoeRedskin 02-15-2008 10:12 AM

Re: Where Do We Need Help on The Offensive Line?
 
[QUOTE=JoeRedskin;422271]The guy who I am intrigued by, and who could be had a reasonable price for a young player -not cheap but not Dockery money either - is Andrews in Cinci. He's a young tackle and his brother the Philly pro-bowl guard. He's been behind both Willie Anderson and I've read a couple reports that the guy has a big upside. B/c he hasn't started he won't get big big money. But he hasn't started b/c he's been behind a couple of stud tackles. We would have to outbid Cinci but they have a lot of other concerns too.[/QUOTE]

Apparently, he's not as under the radar as I thought.

"The lack of franchise-caliber offensive tackles on the free agency market will lead to hefty paydays for Travelle Wharton, Shane Locklear and Stacey Andrews. Although none of the three have ever earned a Pro Bowl nomination, Wharton, Locklear and Andrews possess the athleticism and potential to command big bucks on the open market.

Wharton, who has 44 career starts at left and right tackle, is ranked as the top available tackle prospect and will sign a contract that will average $6 to $7 million a year. Meanwhile, Locklear and Andrews are likely looking at contracts that will surpass the five-year, $25 million deal that Langston Walker inked with the Bills last season."


[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/bucky_brooks/02/14/league.buzz/index.html]SI.com - Writers - Bucky Brooks: Garrett to become top dog, deep RB draft class, more - Thursday February 14, 2008 5:10PM[/url]

Campbell17 02-15-2008 10:16 AM

Re: Where Do We Need Help on The Offensive Line?
 
Guard needs some depth. I like Rabach at center and Jansen/Thomas is great for now. Defensive line needs MUCH MORE WORK ON IT.

MTK 02-15-2008 10:44 AM

Re: Where Do We Need Help on The Offensive Line?
 
[quote=HOGTIMUS PRIME;422270]And there is the result of over spending, with the exception of Samuels I believe the whole line could be over hauled, perhaps with 2 bull guards Rabach might have the support he needs on both sides to step his game up, I have no confidence in any one at right tackle, Heyer looks like a career backup, and I don't expect much from Jansen any longer, so lets go with 2 guards and a right tackle.

Just say no to ocho, and yes to offensive line help![/quote]

Well, the saying goes it all starts up front. If you're going to spend money I don't have a problems spending it on the OL.

It's a little premature to overhaul the unit.

hail_2_da_skins 02-15-2008 03:09 PM

Re: Where Do We Need Help on The Offensive Line?
 
The biggest problem with the offensive line is too many injuries. When healthy, they are a solid unit but the Skins cannot rely on the entire line remaining healthy. So the number one priority is to beef up the depth. To me the weakest link is the center. I see him getting over powered too often. They need to draft a player that can play center and guard. I like Stephon Heyer, he is developing nicely. If they can get a tackle prospect late in the draft to complement Heyer, that would be great.

squrrelco3 02-15-2008 06:17 PM

Re: Where Do We Need Help on The Offensive Line?
 
Late to the party here, I think Guard and Center should be the #1 Priority, Thomas and Kendall have maybe 2 more good years left barring injury, Rabach is not much farther behind them...I think we are still in decent shape at Tackle...Jansen is still very good and Samuels...Pro Bowl, enough said. I think you guys are a little tough on Heyer...he did make some mistakes but he held up quite well against some very tough DL's and did a very good job for a rookie, Wade is overpaid but still serviceable as a backup.

I think these holes should be filled through the draft...thanks to that stupid (IMO) amount of money Buffalo overpaid for Dockery it's going to be very tough to find a free agent Lineman without busting the bank right now, I'd rather see the money spent on a proven big receiver or DB.


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