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That guy, when do think Eddie Royal will get picked? I wouldn't mind seeing him the B&G.

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[quote=That Guy;425441]University of Hawaii quarterback [B]Colt Brennan[/B] added 22 pounds from the Senior Bowl week to the week of the combine, [B]clocking in at 207 pounds[/B].

good for him.[/quote]

Ha ha, agreed, but lets see him keep it on.

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sweed looked okay, but he's really not the guy i'd want.

royal is late 2nd early 3rd right now. not my first choice either though.

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[quote=That Guy;425672][B]Defensive Line bench press results[/B]
-[B]Gholston, Vernon 37 [/B]
-[B]Laws, Trevor[/B] 35
-Rubin, Ahtyba 35
-[B]Ellis, Sedrick[/B] 34
-Hayden, Nick 34
-Okam, Frank 32
-[B]Harvey, Derrick[/B] 31
-Jackson, Lawrence 31
-[B]Moore, Dre[/B] 31

obviously we're interested in these. gholston really helped himself, since he was thought of as more of a pure speed guy. his highlights had him bullrushing guys too though.[/quote]

Mooch et al said Harvey weighed 291! I thought he weighed about 255 & was a bit on the thin side to play 4-3. If he's really 291 & can rush the passer like that, he's the guy, that guy!

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[quote=freddyg12;425869]Mooch et al said Harvey weighed 291! I thought he weighed about 255 & was a bit on the thin side to play 4-3. If he's really 291 & can rush the passer like that, he's the guy, that guy![/quote]

nfl.com says 270, and that seems more in line with reality than 291. he played last year at 265ish.

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yay! this link lists all official/unofficial combine results in a nice tabular form (that can't be done very easily here).

[url=http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/combineDL.html]2008 NFL Scouting Combine Stats: Defensive Line[/url]

i'll highlight best/worst and pending news in a bit.

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[B]NFL | Fa gg suffers career-ending injury[/B]
Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:07:49 -0800

Jason Wilde, of the Wisconsin State Journal, reports Florida State WR De'Cody Fa gg (knee) suffered a possible career-ending knee injury. Fa gg was projected to be a late-round pick and an NFC running backs coach said it was one of the worst injuries he had ever seen.

wow. just wow.

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That's terrible

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[B]Redskins | Team meets with Bernard[/B]
Mon, 25 Feb 2008 09:44:38 -0800

The Washington Redskins have met with Oregon State RB Yvenson Bernard at the 2008 NFL Scouting Combine.

[B]Redskins | Team meets with Dixon[/B]
Mon, 25 Feb 2008 10:53:49 -0800

The Washington Redskins have met with University of Oregon QB Dennis Dixon.

[B]Redskins | Team looking for big receiver[/B]
Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:37:25 -0800

Washington Redskins vice president of football operations Vinny Cerrato said Saturday, Feb. 23, that the team is targeting a big receiver to compliment the offense. Cerrato said WR Santana Moss and WR Antwaan Randle El aren't as big as other receivers and the team needs a big receiver.

[B]Redskins | Cerrato says team will look to address OL[/B]
Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:36:48 -0800

Washington Redskins vice president of football operations Vinny Cerrato said Saturday, Feb. 23, that the team will look to address the offensive line and will try to get a guy who is versatile and can play two positions.



CJ, moss, williams, many various huge guys in the draft. as for OL, best bets are an OT in rnd 2 from current rumblings.

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[quote=That Guy;426538]
[B]Redskins | Cerrato says team will look to address OL[/B]
Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:36:48 -0800

Washington Redskins vice president of football operations Vinny Cerrato said Saturday, Feb. 23, that the team will look to address the offensive line and will try to get a guy who is versatile and can play two positions.



CJ, moss, williams, many various huge guys in the draft. as for OL, best bets are an OT in rnd 2 from current rumblings.[/quote]

Please oh please, Mistress of Football, God of Pig Skin let it be Brandon Albert.

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if its albert, it'll be in the first round. i've heard OT and 2nd round (like carl nicks)... they want jeff otah there, but he's probably gone by then.

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[quote=SmootSmack;426537]That's terrible[/quote]

whats terrible is your profanity filter won't even let me spell his name right:soapbox:.

j/k, it really sucks. hopefully he bought the catastrophic insurance.

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combine notes:

[B]DE[/B] - gholston and groves showed a lot of speed and good bench numbers, harvey looked solid, and campbell may have dropped himself clear out of the first round by not living up to the hype he was getting (5.03 40, which is okay, but he got a bit oversold pre-combine). long did not disappoint, and merling did not run.

[B]DT[/B] - dorsey, of course, is now an injury liability. trevor laws followed a great individual season (100 tackles at DT) with a great senior bowl week and a great combine. he may not even may it to our 2nd round pick now... we'll have to see. ellis had another great showing, but that's expected when you're a top 5 pick.

[B]QB[/B] - chad henne has recovered quite a bit from Michigan's terrible year in the senior bowl and combine, and he's still the best value pick at QB. Flacco's arm has helped his stock, and colt brennan looked MUCH improved since his senior bowl flop (Accuracy and weight... he didn't run, but for QBs that's not a big deal).

[B]RB[/B] - while mcfadden isn't nearly the bullet proof pick that peterson was, he ran a 4.33 which, combined with his production, makes it impossible not to rate him as the best running back. great values can be had at this position though, with guys like steve slaton and ray rice buried a bit in the depth pool. chris johnson ran a 4.24 by the way, which will get him picked earlier than he should probably go (tatum bell got picked for speed, and, well, it hasn't worked out very well. johnson's a better back though).

[B]WR [/B]- james hardy, jordy nelson, devin thomas, and eddie royal all helped themselves by running expected or better than expected times and looking good in drills. kelly didn't really participate, and desean jackson hurt himself by being 3" shorter than expected and weighing under 170 lbs. I still like dexter jackson and marcus monk and value picks and special teamers.

[B]TE[/B] - Fred Davis didn't run and didn't really help himself on drills. Tamme can catch well, but dustin keller stole the show with top results in every workout and great drill work. he really helped himself as much as anyone there.

[B]OL[/B] - not much to report... long and zuttah looked the best, lots of good talent depth throughout. there are 2 centers (justice, pollack), a few guards, and a million tackles worth drafting this year, but it's hard to pick them out of the crowd right now. jeff otah ran a terrible 5.56 40, but it probably won't kill him due to his production.

[B]LB[/B] - ILB - hey look, it's dan connor... and no one else. OLB - a bunch of guys ran 4.9's and killed their stock, ali highsmith being the biggest name. adibi ran a 4.69 when a 4.55 was expected and didn't lift... not good for them. erin henderson (UMD) also ran a bit slow. Rivers is the best LB there, gooden looked like a miami LB, and a guy named shawn crable (6'4" michigan) really helped himself with a 4.6 (@ 245lbs) and 29 reps.

[B]S[/B] - kenny phillips (6'2" 212 lbs miami S) ran a 4.54 and did 19 reps (similar to taylor's stats), which is definitely good. he did not jump (taylor got 42" on the vert). A guy for arizona state named josh barrett ran a 4.35 40 at 223 lbs (6'2"), which is a bit crazy, and definitely going to help him (productive in college, but with some injury issues). he probably jumped a long ways up with such a good showing. zbikowski ran a 4.5 and did 24 reps, and also measured in at less than 8% body fat, so his combine was productive.

[B]CB[/B] - cromartie helped his stock the most (4.33, 6'2", 38.5" vert) after a great senior bowl. talib, jenkins, mcklevin, porter, godfrey, and king all helped themselves, and the overall times were good across the board.




the [B]skins[/B] talked to QB [B]dennis dixon [/B]and RB [B]Yvenson Bernard[/B] (who ran a 4.8 at 200lbs, ouch). bernard will probably not be drafted. dixon could go in the 4th or 5th, but he's a great value pick (20tds, 4ints, 4.6 40, ran for 580 yards 9tds, 5 fumbles, 2 lost... he's also just had a torn ACL though, and he's a bit light).

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oh and the short version -

[B]LB[/B] - BAD (unless you're keith rivers or dan connor)
[B]CB[/B] - GOOD, DEEP, FAST
[B]WR [/B]- mixed bag, good luck picking a stud #1. very tall year.
[B]RB[/B] - DEEP (johnson is 4.24 fast)
[B]OT[/B] - VERY DEEP
[B]OG[/B] - some talent
[B]C[/B] - justice, pollack
[B]QB[/B] - Ryan, followed by a mess of guys (henne and flacco look good)
[B]DT[/B] - dorsey - injury issue, ellis - stud, laws - shooting up boards, dre moore - great, balmer - not so great, sims - not well known
[B]DE[/B] - gholston - stud, a LOT of starting talent, some of everything (3-4 DE, LB, 4-3 DT/DE, etc)
[B]S[/B] - kenny phillips, tom zbikowski, josh barrett (4.35 @ 223lbs = crazy)

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i like slaton, zbikowski, zuttah, jackson, monk, porter, king, and possibly henne or brennan as value picks.

i think dustin keller, trevor laws, and josh barrett would be the best values, except they're going to get massively reslotted on draft boards. they're worth watching though, just in case...


brennan wasn't lying when he said he was on a weight gain diet or that he was working on his footwork. while it would have served him MUCH, MUCH better to show up more prepared in the first place, his determination and vast improvement show that writing him off so quickly after the senior bowl may have been a mistake... my bad.